truth on hold

With tonight's 7, that's 46 for the year. Puts them 26 behind Bears record of 72. With 5 games left they need to average 5.2/game to tie. This is very much within their sites. Why isn't the media picking up on this?

didnt peyton manning moon a female reporter when he was in college? IMO that trumps anything JF allegedly did

One might argue they'd be right to do so given the incessant attacks of a personal nature against him

its largely a media creation, many other players put under the same scrutiny would have similar "question marks". and it seems like it's the same little cadre of posters that want to keep after the guy

Funny though you've had no issue with the many posters claiming Sammy>beckham, so much better hes worth more than Beckham + 2015 1st and 4th round picks.

NFL.com says his bodyguard got into with a stranger who approached JF. We don't know if he was acting in a threatening or unusual way, or if the bodyguard over reacted. Either way hard to pin this on JF

You were commenting on my comment about the 2015 pick having value. To be clear my view is that : - beckham is better than watkins, therefore Beckham + 2015 picks are better than Watkins because the picks have positive value. What I didn't say is that those picks in isolation are of greater value than Watkins.

That i never said a 2015 first round pick is worth more than sammy watkins

Never said that at all. The lack of reading comprehension is really disturbing here.

We don't know who that person is, which is what myself and others have been saying. (Even though teams dont know somehow message board posters are supposed to). But we do know that this point in time that pick has value.

You have no idea what "comparable" means or "trade value" or pretty much anything (all worked up about name calling when you're the one who throwing "horse manure" around)

They're asking THE PLAYER to be named now for who we would have taken in 2015. If you want to be that general about it, here's one list of top 100 prospects. Possibly one of them. http://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-Draft-Prospects-2015.asp

No idea what you're trying to say on other teams not being able to put together a comparable trade package for Cleveland, but then again neither do you so that makes 2 of us. And the 2015 selections, you're saying teams have that nailed down now? Which group of players they want? Before the combine? Before they know the draft order? Before the colleague season is over? When a lot of GMs don't even know if they'll have a job next year? For example at this time last year jags knew they wanted bortles #3?

I know that whole "tell me the guy you would draft in 2015 now" is ridiculous, even many teams don't know until their actually on the clock.

Well we do know that other teams could have offered Cleveland a comparable trade and didnt

31 out of 32 GMs would agree with you.

Lol @ the creativity out there ... who would have even thought of that? I like this one too

Dude, this thread was started BEFORE "the catch"

Robert woods reverse, +2 yards

I agree and when you're talking blowout like miami its even more ridiculous. Watkins didn't even lead in total yards, spiller did including the dramatic kick off return that stifled miami's momentum

Bills blew out miami, its ridiculous to credit sammy with the "win" there.

I know and its got DC is a huge hole. Thats my point about trading 1sts for a "sure thing"

here we go with the revisionist histories. Here's some more #1 or #2 overalls for you to revise, and just imagine dropping multiple 1st's for: Sam Bradford Jamarcus Russell Robert Gallery Charles Rogers David Carr Robert Griffin

but we drafted Watkins ahead of Mack

what if you had traded multiple 1st's for "sure things" like Leaf and Mandarich? Now you're out mutliple 1st round picks instead of 1 ... this is the nightmare scenario Washington finds itself in right now