Nostradamus

Wow, that was one of the more blatant irresponsible cheap shots you will see. At least the other guy was ok and ended up being a first round pick. That kind of hit could end seasons. Oh well, while you hate to see that, I'd rather see that than Mike Williams eating klondike bars and blocking air all the time. I always thought there was a little Vito Spatafore in Williams, and that was a main reason for his problems. The fact is, the best O-linemen are the mean ones, the ones that wear down the D-Line by blocking them until the final whistle–and after–whether or not there back is turned. There are O-linemen with limited ability who have built successful careers on their bad tempers. (Jon Runyan). While I am by no means condoning that kind of cheap shot, the fact remains that after hearing about this guy and and seeing that hit, I cannot help but think this guy has the temperment to play in the NFL.

Thats the spirit. I've never been called a Johnny-one-note before, (and I have no idea what it means), but I agree with the essence of the post, although the rectum comment, while not PC was both vulgar and a little homoerotic. On the bright side, who would have thought Rob Lee would have commanded 20+posts (and counting) 32 hours before draft day?? Even his momma probably would't have this much to say about him, albeit indirectly.

In your attempts to be ultra politically correct, you guys come off as being uptight, as well as ignorant. To say that Whites aren't genetically inferior when it comes to such functions as running and jumping is like saying that men aren't inherently stronger physically than woman. Is it a coincidence that every starting running back in the league, for probably the last 10 years, is African Amercian. Its like the big elephant in the room that everyone ignores. There are genetic differences between races people. It doesn't make one race superior or inferior, and someone who acknowldeges that fact certainly isn't a racist, just a realist. So, if Rob Lee is white, and if he runs a 4.3, that would certainly be an eye-opener and maybe even a legitimate tidbit of conversation.

I like this guy. The ideal draft day scenario would be to trade down to 12, pick up a 3rd and a 5th or 6th, and Bunkley will still be available. Then, with that addition on the D-line intact, stock up on O-linemen and maybe use one of those extra thirds on a good change of pace back, such as Maurice Drew.

Definitly we should all be willing to do something. And all the naysayers and cynical 'fans' who mock our efforts to ignite any kind of rally should take a long walk off a short bridge. We understand that by itself, a online petition or a protest won't save the Bills, the same way one cigarette won't give you lung cancer. It is the accumulation of events that will ultimately trigger a chain of events which can ultimately lead to wondrous results. One signature from one person won't save the Bills, but it can have a minute impact on keeping the Bills here, just as one person's apathy or defeatist attitude (Bucky dumb&*& Gleason) can have a minute impact on triggering their departure. Rest assured we can only be helping our cause by writing senators and protesting the CBA, and we can only be hurting our cause by insulting and undermining those who do billieve their actions can, on a minute scale, effect the Bills future in Buffalo.

Leave her alone. She's cookin dinner.

And then he'd go out and sign Peerless Price to a multimillion dollar contract. Oh, wait...

Personally, I think its pretty stupid. No, a online petition in and of itself won't save the Bills, the same way one cigarette won't give you lung cancer. It is the accumulation of events that will ultimately trigger a chain of events which can ultimately lead to wondrous results. One signature from one person won't save the Bills, but it can have a minute impact on keeping the Bills here, just as one person's apathy or defeatist attitude (Bucky dumb&*& Gleason) can have a minute impact on triggering their departure. Rest assured we can only be helping our cause by writing senators and protesting the CBA, and we can only be hurting our cause by insulting and undermining those who do billieve their actions can, on a minute scale, effect the Bills future in Buffalo.

You really aren't a very happy person, are you? I don't care if the man has a magnetic attraction towards wildebeasts. If he has enough political pull to influence whether the Bills stay in B-Lo, he's got my vote.

BUMP! Damn Right. The Bills have been there for us for our entire lives. Now, we need to be there for them. Ralph can raise the ticket prices, I really don't care. I'll do whatever it takes; storm NFL Headquarters or clip Daniel Snyder. What I won't do is join the ranks of the nattering nabobs of negativism on this board and perpetuate the doom and gloom attitude that is permeating our city. We expect our teams to display grit, toughness and resolve on the field. Now is the time to embody those qualities as fans. Doug, come up here man. The Bills need more fans like you around this city and on these boards.

Well, with that kind of exuberance and enthusiasm, is there any way we can fail in our quest to keep the Bills here? You're right, we do live in an apathetic age in which we are content to sit back and let the legislators, or the lawyers fight our battles. Yet rather then "sitting back" and being a posterchild for that line of action, why not do something? Or, at the very least, don't obstruct those who do feel they have the capaplities and the wherewithal to actually lead a movement. Yes, it may be out of the realm of the possibility to ignite an assault on the league offices in the foreseeable future. But we are not that pressed for time either. The remainder of this offseason could be seen as an opportunity to recruit people who would be interested in such a movememt, and to get acquainted with one another. Preseason could be a chance to organize and strenghen our movement. Once the regular season hits, the movement could have enough steam to take on a life of its own. By that time, a protest in front of Park Ave. could be a very realistic possibility. You can say that my vision is grounded in fantasy, but the cold reality is that Ralph Wilson did ask for OUR HELP. This grassroots campaign is exactly the kind of thing he has in mind.

If there is any ambiguity in the message, I would be more than happy to clarify any points. It was a lengthy topic, due to the gravity of the situation. The Bills mean a lot to me and many Western New Yorkers, and in my zeal, I posted without spellchecking. Rest assured that my education level is sufficient to post on these boards, oh webmaster. Its unfortunate that a few typos would render you unable to undertand the message, I would expect more from a computer savvy stud such as yourself. It is ironic that you would offer a synopsis on action with the return address indubitably (that a big enough word for you?) going to an .edu address. You guys love to sit behind your computer screens and patronize, but G-d forbid you ever venture out of your cream puff existences and take a stand on something.

I am perfectly capable of speaking grammatically, but I wasn't aware these posts were being graded or critiqued for grammatic content. I actually thought the message itself was what matterered–silly me. So in my stream of consciousness, I may have committed some unforgivable grammatical errors, which in fact were merely typos. For that, I am truly sorry. Also, I was hoping this post would be avoided by the ubercool condescening geeks who sit behind their computer screens and belittle other peoples points, because it is the one place where they can feel in power and assert the guise of their manhood. Oh well, no such luck. But just so you know, a nerd that can insult people online is still a nerd.

I agree with the assessement that far too many "serious Bills fans" are too concerned with Kevin Everetts playing weight, and whether Wesley Duke would make a good tight end prospect, than the teams future. I think the rationale for people to avoid this upsetting topic is simple: it is an extremely upsetting proposition to ponder the Bills leaving Buffalo, and people often try and avoid considering upsetting situations. However, to do so may ultimately sound the teams death knell in Buffalo. Consider, rich powerful men such as Ralph Wilson and Joel Giambra have implored you, the Bills fan to help in the efforts to keep the Bills in Buffalo. Certainly, we are not the first option in helping Wislon ensure the teams longetivity in the area, but his other pleas fell on the uncaring money hungry ears of the NFL and its "new guard" of owners. Certainly, men like Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones are nothing short of antichrists. They believe in maximizing profit at the expense of trampling 36 years of tradion, and blood sweat and tears. In other words multimillionaires want to accumulate even more millions, at the sacrifice of taking the beloved Bills from the blue collar region of Western New York. We don't have millions. If we're lucky, we have a family, a dog, some buddies, and our Bills. Tagliabue is a weasel and a a hyprocrite. He forcefeeds the CBA down the owners throats, citing the history and tradition of union solidarity to achieve the 30-2 vote in his favor. Then, it becomes exposed that these are the exact values that the CBA is trampling on! Some people ignore that this is going on. Others take on a doom and gloom attitude as if the death drum has already been sounded, presumably because they think it will hurt less if they just accept defeat before it actually happens. If those people were representative of America, we'd still be eating pie and chips and drinking shandys. What we need are people of action. Contrary to what the doom and gloomers on this board think, protesting does work. Dissent breeds more dissent. The clamor becomes louder, until eventually, the powers that be cannot ignore it any longer and they will be forced to address the problem. But time is of the essence. Undoubtedly, people may line Park Avenure when the Bills move is formally announced, but by then it will be too late. The battle lines have been drawn, and the CBA represents the first blow. We may not have the money or power of the NFL brass, but we do have the righteous indignation and outrage of the those who have been wronged. The draft is a great place to start, but Bills games are where we can really make a mark. Eventually, these big market teams, their souless owners and their punk fans will have to make their way to the Ralph. Lets let them know how we feel. Local outlets will be all over it, and eventually we can get enough support so that the national media will start covering our uprising. We always want our teams to have grit, toughness, and fight from the opening kickoff until the last whistle. As a fan, do you possess those qualities? What are you willing to do? Believe me, there are ways to get the leagues attention. Protests and marches are a beginning. There are also, more drastic measures we can take in standing up for WHAT is RIGHT! What we need is a coalition. Anyone can post a topic calling yourself a fan. But it is only men who will stand up for what they believe in, and fight together for a common cause. I'm sure there will be many cyincs and non-believers who will belittle this post and dismiss it as the ramblings of an idiot. Thats fine. It wasn't too long ago when a bunch of idiots accomplished the impossible. I have a few buddies who I know will be down, but we need more. I appeal to you, the most ardent of Bills fans, to help in our common cause. Writing letters is good, but we can do better. Lets keep the Boys in Biuffalo, where they belong.

I agree with the assessement that far too many "serious Bills fans" are too concerned with Kevin Everetts playing weight, and whether Wesley Duke would make a good tight end prospect, than the teams future. I think the rationale for people to avoid this upsetting topic is simple: it is an extremely upsetting proposition to ponder the Bills leaving Buffalo, and people often try and avoid considering upsetting situations. However, to do so may ultimately sound the teams death knell in Buffalo. Consider, rich powerful men such as Ralph Wilson and Joel Giambra have implored you, the Bills fan to help in the efforts to keep the Bills in Buffalo. Certainly, we are not the first option in helping Wislon ensure the teams longetivity in the area, but his pleas fell on the uncaring money hungry ears of the NFL and its "new guard" of owners. Certainly, men like Daniel Snyder and Jerry Jones are nothing short of antichrists. They believe in maximizing profit at the expense of trampling 36 years of tradion, and blood sweat and tears. In other words multimillionaires want to accumulate even more millions, at the sacrifice of taking the beloved Bills from the blue collar region of Western New York. Tagliabue is a weasel and a a hyprocrite. He forcefeeds the CBA down the owners throats, citing the history and tradition of union solidarity to achieve the 30-2 vote in his favor. Then, it becomes exposed that these are the exact values that the CBA is trampling on! Some people ignore that this is going on. Others take on a doom and gloom attitude as if the death drum has already been sounded, presumably because they think it will hurt less if they just accept defeat before it actually happens. If those people were representative of America, we'd still be eating pie and chips and drinking shandys. What we need are people of action. Contrary to what the doom and gloomers on this board think, protesting does work. Dissent breeds more dissent. The clamor becomes louder, until eventually, the powers that be cannot ignore it any longer and they will be forced to address the problem. But time is of the essence. Undoubtedly, people may line Park Avenure when the Bills move is formally announced, but by then it will be too late. The battle lines have been drawn, and the CBA represents the first blow. We may not have the money or power of the NFL brass, but we do have the righteous indignation and outrage of the those who have been wronged. The draft is a great place to start, but Bills games are where we can really make a mark. Eventually, these big market teams, their souless owners and their punk fans will have to make their way to the Ralph. Lets let them know how we feel. Local outlets will be all over it, and eventually we can get enough support so that the national media will start covering it. We always want our teams to have grit, toughness, and fight from the opening kickoff until the last whistle. As a fan, do you possess those qualities? What are you willing to do?

And everyone wanted to demonize Ralph. It turns out, out of the small market teams, Ralph and Mike Brown were the only ones who truly sensed the repercussions the new CBA would have, even if he didn't fully "understand them." Incidentally, doesn't this free agent season resemble major League baseball, with the Redskins emulating the Yankees by getting the big-money free agents, and the Bills resembling the Royals by grabbing whatever players were left on the scrap heap?

Without knowing him, it is ridiculous to speculate as to where he will want to play. But there are reasons for him to want to come to a Buffalo or Cleveland, rather than a Jacksonville. #1 might be because he will be appreciated here more. In a football-crazed market like Buffalo or Cleveland. he will know that fans and the community will be truly appreciative of his efforts on Sundays, rather than in Jacksonville where their collective football aptitude rivals that of your average third grader here. O-linemen rarely get glorified in the national media, so he may enjoy the adulation that would be sure to come his way in Buffalo. And its not naive to think that is a consideration he might think about. We didn't just outbid everyone for TKO, it was the right fit. Maybe it would be that way with a Bentley or Hutchinson

Tyler Durden

31-49 is spin? That wasn't their record? And missing the playoffs, albeit by one game, in two of the last four years is supposed to be a positive? I didn't realize Donahoe deserves praise for those outstanding 8-8 and 9-7 campaigns, thank you for making me see the light. Why we are reviewing Donahoe's past failures is beyond me, but since we are, here are a couple points. Just because a guy is playing or starting, does not make him a good pick. In fact, under Donahoe's regime, the only reason a lot of those guys played was because they were high picks. If guys like Anderson were undrafted free agents, he'd be pumping gas somewhere. But, because Donahoe was so concerned with his reputation and couldn't admit his failures, we hung onto failures such as Anderson, Reed, Denney, Wire, and most importantly Bledsoe for too long.

How quickly we forget. In 04, Buffalo had the best second half defense in the NFL. In fact, we were dominant in the second half.

Just because a lot of these guys play, remember what it is they play for. A team that went 5-11 last year, and a team that went 31-49 over the last five years. I don't know how you can call many of those players perfomances "quality time" when quality football has been few and far between over the past five years. Secondly, the 02 draft was the most important, as that is when we were picking earliest and most often. That was a draft, that had Donahoe even been decent in, we'd be looking at a different team today. To not even have a good player out of that whole class, picking so early and often, is almost unfathomable. Everyone looks at the McGahee pick as an example of Donahoe's shrewd, riverboat gambler style. I see it as more stupidity. Larry Johnson was just like McGahee, minus three torn ligaments. The discrepancy in explosiveness is evident in Johnson's numerous runs over 20 yards, and McGahee never getting past the secondary. Losman looks like a bad pick, especially considering how much we gave up for it. And Anderson sure played a lot last year–on the worst rush defense in the NFL. He's a bum. Yes, noone faulted Donahoe for picking Kelsay, or Mike Williams for that matter–that does not make it a good pick. Picks can only be judged by one criteria, and that is their performance in the NFL. Crowell, Clements, Henry, Schobel and maybe Evans are probably the only value picks in that 5 year period from rounds 1-3. That is bad.

TD should have just thrown filled the pothoes with Bennie Anderson and Mike Williams, and then found some real offensive linemen. Thats assuming the potholes were gargantuan and bloated.

The fact that Williams is a bum is Williams fault, the fact that he was picked is Donoahoe's fault. Just because a pick may appear solid at the time does not make it so. The player's performance will determine whether it was a good or bad pick. And yes, we in Buffalo as well as the national press all came to the consensus it was a good pick. But, it is not our job to examine every characteristic of a college player before picking him to be a member of an organization. it his Donahoe's. While the pick may have been understandable, it is still most defintly a mistake, and his bust status clearly indicates it was a bad pick.

Actually, McGee was much better in 05 then 04, and should only get better. He may have the best feet of anyone in the league, as evidenced by his returning ability. (Remember the one in New Orleans?) He is a special athlete with good speed, not great, as was shown in the fastest man contest when he got blew off the field. But, he in what looks to be a (sigh) rebuilding year, he is set to assume the no. 1 CB position. He'll take his lumps, but so will the rest of the team and with Levy at the helm, they should be a force in 07. Oh, and anyone who thinks we're getting a first for Clements is delusional. That window probably closed in San Diego, and slammed shut in Miami. A third would actually be good, remember, whatever team signs him also has to pay his salary