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crowell missed the wide open tackle 5 yards before the first down.

Half. Complete and utter physical domination. We looked like a high school team against the Bears. They were simply bigger, stronger and faster across the board. JP started to unravel towards the end of the first half, which is not good since he was basically the lone bright spot for most of the first half. I'm not too upset though, the first pick he got greedy and tried to make a play, the second one he got rid of the ball trying to hit Parrish on a hot route while trying to avoid getting killed by Alex Brown, and from the replays, I don't even think he saw Parrish, let alone Ricky Manning. Hopefully he settles down and just takes what they give him in the second half. We got totally dominated. Now the coaches have to tell them to forget about the first half. This next half is a new game as far as they are concerned. They have to play like the score is 0-0, and they have to win this half to salvage something positive from this game.

McGee continues to get abused by Berrian. Man should I even continue watching this?

I'm not gonna get too upset over this. It looks like we are simply physically outmatched against the bears. They are pushing us all over the field. I am happy about the pass-blocking from the Bills so far. However, we haven't taken advantage of any possible breaks, we've dropped two interceptions, Willis is non-existent, Price has the dropsies, and JP has already lost confidence in his receivers not named Evans. I just hope we at least get into the game a little bit, and play even with them after halftime.

Right now, Drew Brees is clearly better than JP. But if you follow Brees's career so far, he didn't have a breakthrough year until his 4th season, which was his third season as a starter. This is JP's third year, and this will be his first full season as a starter. I think JP will end up being better than Brees because he has better physical tools. It just takes time for some quarterbacks to really understand the mental part of the NFL. But then they blossom, and sometimes in their fourth year. So yeah, I'd take Brees right now, but I'd rather have Losman on the Bills because this is a talented team. They just happen to be very young. If JP continues to get better, I believe that he is a QB who can end up being an All-Pro. So I'll just wait on JP, no thanks on Brees. I just want JP to show continued improvement this year. I don't expect him to be someone who we can depend on to win the game. Next year is when I expect JP to become an elite quarterback.

i totally agree. at least take a shot at the endzone.

jeez, here we go again. i'm so disappointed in bills fans these days. so quick to give up on one of the few players on the team I thought actually played like he was expected to (in case you don't understand me, that means almost everyone else underachieved this season). If you expected JP to come in and light up the league like Roethlisberger, you should have immediately changed your expectations after the first 4 games of the season, when it became apparent that we had no oline, a defense that was markedly worse than last season, and a coach that could never seem to make a good decision. a post from the past: My friend, go to espn.com and look at JP's numbers. He had essentially two halves to the season. The first 4 games, then he got benched, and then the last 5 games with 4 starts. His numbers break down like this: First half: 45/94 for 433 yds (47.9%) 1 TD 2 INT 52.3 QB RTG 19 rushes for 102 yds (5.4ypc) Second half: 68/134 for 907 yds (50.7%) 7 TD 6 INT 77.5 QB RTG 12 rushes for 52 yds (4.3ypc) So in his second half, he threw for more than twice as many yards, for 6 more touches and 4 more picks, averaged over 200 yards per start and he pulled up his QB rating by 25 points and pulled his completion percentage over 50%. All of this in about 3 more quarters more playing time in the second half. If anything, you can say he was inconsistent from game to game. He had some pretty good games and some pretty bad games. I guess we now require all first year quarterbacks to be Ben Roethlisberger. But the numbers clearly indicate that he did in fact improve over the course of the season, and deserved to start the final two games of the season over kelly holcomb.

I'm glad you can tell after 8 games that a player can't be a good QB or not. Glad you're not the GM.

I haven't heard anyone say JP is as good as Ben. I have heard people say that Ben was set up to succeed a lot better than JP was. Ben R. has probably the best Oline in the league, a dominant running game, and the best defense in the league. But I still think he's better than JP, but he's not worlds better than JP. Let's get JP the same stuff Ben has, then we can make a judgment.

Troy Polamalu is the best safety in the NFL. Joey Porter is taking the entire left side of the Denver offense out of the game.

let's not get crazy. JP is seven years younger than Plummer and has shown a much better sense of not forcing things than Plummer did at the same stage of his career, and JP has a stronger arm and is just as mobile as Plummer. If JP improves his accuracy next year, he will already be better than Plummer. Therefore I would not take Plummer over JP, not now and not even if Plummer was only 24.

May I also add that Denver's D seems to have no idea what's coming next from the Steelers, which is mainly due to how diverse their attack has been this postseason. Cedric Wilson has been open all game, and Hines Ward and Heath Miller and all of them have also been getting open too. And new Jake just made an old Jake play, which cost them a touchdown.

It looks like it's Pittsburgh's year this year. Their O-Line is absolutely dominating Denver's d-line, coupled with the fact that their QB is deadly accurate and just in the zone, add that to an already great Defense.....man they are a well-oiled machine right now.

Okay I'm done with you as you obviously can't read. Refer to a post above where I say that I'm not one of the people who thinks that the majority of head coaches should be black.

Wow, because things are SOOO different in 2006 compared to 2003. Please you seem to be a really smart guy, so explain to me what a guy like Maurice Carthon has to do to get a job? Donnie Henderson didn't just become available you know. He could have been interviewing for many jobs even before Mangina fired him. But he wasn't.

He switched teams dummy, that doesn't count as a new minority head coach. He was already a head coach, now he's a head coach for a different team.

Please, explain to me why it's happening then, if it isn't that the majority of these owners aren't comfortable with presenting a minority as the public face of the franchise? How long did it take Marvin Lewis to get a job? How about Tony Dungy? Seriously you seem to have a great grasp on the situation, so enlighten me.

Reading is fundamental. I said new hires my friend, new hires. So right now, 6 of the 32 head coaches in the NFL are black, and half of them made the playoffs. That leaves 24 current head coaches as white. Hmmm....not all that equal as far as I'm concerned, and I'm not even the type of person who says that the majority of the head coaches should be black. All I'm saying is these guys who are highly qualified and well thought of in their organizations don't even have a real chance at a head job. And Art Shell makes you laugh? Let's see, 56% career winning percentage, made the playoffs 3 out of 5 years, all while working for that maniac known as Al Davis. Yeah he's a real stiff. And he hasn't even gotten an interview since he left the Raiders. Meanwhile the Dick Jaurons and Dom Capers of the world can fail miserably and still know they can get a job the next day. Real fair right?

Tim Lewis, Donnie Henderson, Maurice Carthon, Ray Rhodes, Art Shell, Ron Rivera, Norm Chow. Every single new hire has been your prototypical, status quo type coach. Sad. And I thought the NFL was making progress? How the hell does Eric Mangini get the NY Jets head job over a guy like Donnie Henderson? Mangini was a coordinator for what, 1 year? Most of the other hires are ok, but Mangini was only a coordinator for 1 year and I don't care if he was with Belichick, Belichick was running that defense, not him; McCarthy was the offensive coordinator of the second worst team in football and did nothing with Alex Smith, who looked like he got worse as the year went on, and Rod Marinelli, has never even been a coordinator! You would think that with the three top coaches in the regular season this year all being black, maybe, just maybe, these owners would think outside the box. But nope, they decided to keep their feet fully entrenched inside the box. I can only hope next years super bowl is Cincinatti vs. Chicago.

If TO can get a lot of the Eagles players to doubt Donovan, who (along with great D) took them to 3 straight NFC finals and then 1 super bowl, what do you think he will do to JP when JP doesn't get him the ball the first, second, third times he thinks he's completely open? NO, NO AND NO to TO!

Um, the good old days of Tom Donohoe? How many times did we make the playoffs under TD? So if we don't make the playoffs in the next 5 years, I guess it would be just like TD's tenure now wouldn't it? When something is not working, the best thing to do is change it. TD and MM were not getting the job done, and I for one am glad to see both of them go. At least we now get a fresh start, a GM and a coach who come in here knowing that (most) Bills fans absolutely will not tolerate mediocrity, and maybe that will inspire them to do what is necessary to put a winning team out on the field.

We can only thank the lord or whomever for this glorious, glorious day! The two idiots running the bills into the ground for the past 2/5 years are both gone. Now let's go out and get a real coach.

Methinks there may be more to the story than what is being said so far. I just can't imagine him pulling a gun on two kids after getting kicked off the VT football team just days prior. He can't be that brick-headed. So I'll wait to pass judgment.

My friend, go to espn.com and look at JP's numbers. He had essentially two halves to the season. The first 4 games, then he got benched, and then the last 5 games with 4 starts. His numbers break down like this: First half: 45/94 for 433 yds (47.9%) 1 TD 2 INT 52.3 QB RTG 19 rushes for 102 yds (5.4ypc) Second half: 68/134 for 907 yds (50.7%) 7 TD 6 INT 77.5 QB RTG 12 rushes for 52 yds (4.3ypc) So in his second half, he threw for more than twice as many yards, for 6 more touches and 4 more picks, and he pulled up his QB rating by 25 points and pulled his completion percentage over 50%. All of this in about 3 more quarters more playing time in the second half. If anything, you can say he was inconsistent from game to game. He had some pretty good games and some pretty bad games. I guess we now require all first year quarterbacks to be Ben Roethlisberger. But the numbers clearly indicate that he did in fact improve over the course of the season, and deserved to start the final two games of the season over kelly holcomb.

STOP IT! You are making way too much sense for many people on this board.