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I love the pick but if we still need OLine guys by draft time we have to trade back.

Paup was done when he left here no where's near the MVP level we saw. Odomes? Reich? Bannon's best moments here were as a guard on goal line offense.

Could not agree more, he has a lot to prove for those dollars.

7 million for 2 years, not bad for an old guy.

I found this post from another message board interesting. "The fact is, despite a difference in local revenues Wilson will make a profit this year. The NFL shares 80+% of all revenue among teams, higher than any other league. Because of the TV money, all the player costs are more than covered before he does a thing. The only thing sharing more revenue would do is put more money in his pockets, not make his team more competitive. He is just making excuses for being cheap, because each team receives enough money through television to cover all of it's player payroll costs. While Buffalo obviously does not have the corporate base of support that other communities do, they could be far more aggressive in marketing their team. Besides the obvious sources of revenue like naming rights, there are other avenues to explore. Bob Kraft built his own TV station and provides his own programming. He is building a hotel and mall on the land around the stadium, and is using the stadium and team to market in other areas, like trade shows, conferences and such. Why should he share that revenue with Ralph Wilson? Why should he work so hard at maximizing his revenues so Wilson can sit around doing nothing and take a cut? What is stopping Wilson from exploring his own alternate avenues of generating revenues? Each owner has a different situation. Guys like Irsay and Rooney inherited their teams, from their fathers, who bought the teams decades ago for comparatively short money. Irsay is getting a brand new stadium built almost completely on the public dime. Paul Brown had a stadium built and maintained by the public. McNair in Houston paid well over $700M for his team. Kraft paid around $200M for the team and stadium, then invested another $350M in a new stadium. Jeffrey Lurie and Dan Snyder paid big dollars for their teams. These teams have a lot of debt. Large markets generally bring in more revenue. This is also why it costs more to purchase a team in a large market than a small one. This is America, and if one owner does a better job marketing locally and is making more money then good for him. Nobody is losing money. Besides, there is no evidence that small-market teams are at a competitive disadvantage. I defy anyone to make the case. Here is the breakdown of playoff teams last year based on market size: Giants (1) Chicago (3) NE Pats (5) Washington (8) Tampa (12) Seattle (13) Denver (18) Pittsburgh (22) Indy (25) Charlotte (27) Cinncinnati (34) Jacksonville (52) Here is a list of teams in a top ten market, that did not make the playoffs: Jets (1) Philadelphia (4) San Francisco (6) Dallas (7) Atlanta (9) Houston (10)

I am no fan of Brown but his comments are intriguing. Bengals owner Mike Brown got a shock when he arrived for work on Thursday. A printout from NFL headquarters outlined more details of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which the league owners passed in a 30-2 vote in Dallas on Wednesday. Brown and Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson were the only dissenters. Brown, who said the CBA is "tremendously costly" for low-revenue teams such as the Bengals, learned about the noneconomic features of the deal, which favors the players. Draft picks in rounds 2 through 7 can't sign a contract exceeding four years. And the loyalty clause Brown had built into player's contracts is dead. Players can no longer be subject to forfeiture of part of their signing bonuses for making derogatory comments about the team, coaches or management. "Now that has been given back in the negotiation," Brown said. "We did not know the details of that at the time we voted. "I think it's wrong to vote yes on a deal when you don't know what's in it. We did not know the noneconomic features of this deal. All of these noneconomic terms were considered of lesser weight than the (finances). The whole package should have been in front of us." Here's a more in-depth Q&A with Brown from the Dayton Daily News Q&A with Mike Brown Q. What makes it (the new deal) so challenging for the Bengals? A. The deal is tremendously costly. The high-revenue teams — although they were willing to shift money to the low-revenue teams — were not prepared to shift money in proportion to the amount the shifting costs onto us. This is a system that is based on the average. Teams pay player costs at the average. So if you're a high-revenue team (such as Dallas and Washington), you're paying less as a percentage of your income than you are if you're a low-revenue team. The low-revenue team will pay well in excess of 70 percent of its revenues to player costs. The high-revenue team will pay around 40 percent. Q. The big-market clubs seem to maximize their revenue potential. Do you? A. We think we do a good job within the constraints of our market. They (big-market teams) have a much greater amount of disposable income to appeal to than we have. If you go to some of these large markets, it's a multiple of 10 times or more than what we have in the Cincinnati market. So they should be able to make more, and they do. Do I think it's because they work harder? No. We work just as hard in the small markets. Q. What is disposable income? A. It would be the income available to spend on the products we sell, which is everything from tickets to (luxury) boxes to sponsorships, radio rights, and on and on.

Oakland probably grabs Ngata if they pick up Culpepper. Wroten was the best player on the field in the Sugar Bowl. I love the pick but I do believe he recently was arrested for something and Marv wants character guys.

The Redzone shows Mawae visiting Miami today, Trevor Pryce visiting Cleveland, Brad Hopkins visiting the Jets today, Atlanta and Tampa Bay later in the week. Giants have entertained Sam madison and have Lavar Arrington coming in. http://www.theredzone.org/

Not too sure what the NFL record for the volume of free agents signed in one season but 9 seems pretty high when you also factor in the signing bonuses that would have to come from Ralph. We add three tops in my opinion.

Denny could be good depth. Plays special teams well too. Pickett and a draft pick may be the solution.

Seems majority of TD passes within the 10 yard line are thrown to the TE. We are horrible in the red zone.

Pro athletes with a twisted sense of entitlement.

McMahon is a lot like Losman ie. happy feet. If QB guru Andy Reid is releasing him why would we want him.

The Bears have an interest in him according to their message boards. I imagine after shelling out for Muhammed last year they cannot committ that many dollars to one position. Moulds will not command any more than 3M a year if he's lucky.

Holt is worth the coin much better than Moulds in my opinion.

I could see him as a replacement for Josh Reed but no way for Moulds. He has made some highlight reel catches when healthy but no way as a #1.

Cover 2 teams do have lighter lineman. Perry Fewell come from the Bears where the DT's were as follows: Ian Scott 6'3 302 Tommie Harris 6'3 300 Tank Johnson 6'3 300 Bill Kollar comes from SL where the DT's were as follows: Ryan Pickett 6'2 310 Damone Lewis 6'2 301 Jimmy Kennedy 6'4 320 Tampa won a Super Bowl with Warren Sapp and Booger McFarland both weighing 300. Based on that smaller, lighter is possible. Pickett is a FA coming off his best season. Would not surprise me if he was a target.

I thought Fitzpatrick of Harvard was better last year for the Rams.

Cap set at $94.5 million/deadline 10 p.m. Thursday to get under -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those details are according to The Associated Press. The NFL extended the deadline to get under the cap by six hours -- from 4 p.m. Eastern to 10 p.m. Eastern. The cap number could be adjusted slightly in the next month. According to John Clayton on his Insider Blog Cap- $94.513 million Restricted free agent tenders are going to start at $712,000. Those given first-round tenders will go at $1.552 million. Tenders at the first- and third-round rate are at $2.069 million.

Brady Smith Atlanta DE ESPN.com has confirmed that the Falcons on Thursday will release 10-year veteran defensive end Brady Smith, which will save $2.5 million against the salary cap. Smith, 32, was limited to a career-low five appearances in 2005 because of injuries. He underwent neck surgery in July, which forced him to miss training camp and then, after returning sooner than expected, suffered a foot injury that ended his year.

Well done! Marv is not saying a Sam Adams or a Lawyer Milloy can't play, he is saying he can balance the roster by using their cap number and maybe replace them with good, cheaper players where there is not a huge dropoff from the incumbent.

Not a chance we move up and get more than the team moving back

Vet Players like this will be out there. I say we make a run at one of them. Mawae, Hopkins, Orlando Brown, Larry Allen, etc, etc. One vet and one draft pick with the remaining OL would be an upgrade.

I saw where Philly is prepared to make him a front loaded offer so Seattle cannot match it. Apparently , Philly is way under the cap.

We have more pressing needs than another TE. Everett was a top 100 pick last year. DL or OL, no more skill position players.