DrFishfinder

Exactamundo.

And you just hit one of the problems on the head right there. For the most part, the receivers are NOT getting open downfield.

NO. JP isn't going to win any games and putting him in isn't going to help Edwards get back his confidence. JP will stand in the pocket and wait for receivers to get open 20+ yards downfield (they aren't) and either get sacked or run for his life. God forbid he would ever learn to throw the ball away. There isn't any upside to that at all.

Agreed about Manning and Brees. I have said the same thing about Eli and backed it up with stats. Last year, Eli was 10-6, had 13 fumbles and threw 20 picks. He had a 56% pass completion ratio. Not exactly a superbowl year, but then again, guess what? Coughlin didn't pull Eli when he was playing poorly and Eli sure did play poorly at times. Sometimes for extended periods. The coaching staff has to try to restore Edwards confidence and give him the opportunity to play through this slump. Building a franchise QB is a process and there are going to be ups and downs. Neither JP or Hamdan is the answer and pulling Edwards and putting in either one of those guys isn't going to help the team or Edwards. It's painful to sit through Edwards slump, but that's what we are all going to have to do. It would be downright foolish to make any changes to the QB position right now. We're going to have to sit tight for the rest of this year and hope Edwards can ride this thing out. I'm betting he does.

And JP is NOT going to win games and neither is Hamdan. Pulling TE out is hardly going to "get his head straight". Building a QB is a process and it's going to have its ups and downs. Eli Manning had his bad years and Coughlin didn't pull him. Manning was only 10-6 last year, had a 73.9% passer rating, threw 20 INT's and fumbled 13 times. As painful as it is to sit through it, Edwards has to be given the opportunity to play through this ..... whatever it is he has.

Beginning of Season: Playoffs (Didn't Whittner or somebody "guarantee" it?) 1-0:hHmm....maybe 2-0: HMmmm....possibly 3-0: HMMMM....damn!!! 4-0: AFC EAST Baybee!!! 4-1: Arizona is playing pretty good ball but AFC East is still looking good 5-1: AFC EAST and HOME FIELD!!! 5.2: Crap...the Dolphins...still looking ok for AFC East 5-3: OK, the Jets are playing better, but this isn't looking good all of a sudden 5-4: Oh no....not NE again....this is really starting to look bad. 5-5: Cleveland? On MNF? At HOME? At the Bottom of the AFC East? WTH happened?

I don't think so. 2004: 1-6 record, 48% completion, 6 TD-9 INT 2007: 10-6 record, 56% completion, 23 TD-20 INT, 13 Fumbles .....oh yeah and a SB victory. Don't know if Coughlin pulled him in any games because of his playing, but Eli has started every game since about mid-way through 2004.

JP has always had a bad habit of staying in the pocket, waiting for receivers to get open 20+ yards downfield. It's one thing to have a cannon for an arm, but it's another thing entirely to have the game smarts to take what the defense gives you. If he had a platoon of burners for receivers AND the time to throw, things might be different. But he doesn't and they aren't. Plenty of rocket armed quarterbacks are in other lines of work.

To look at it from a different angle, TE hasn't even had a year and a half (in games) of being the starting QB. Eli Manning didn't look particularly good for the first couple of years, either. I'm just as PO'd as the next guy when I see TE regress from the way he played at the beginning of the season to the slump he's having now. Especially since it's putting the Bills behind the 8 ball in games. You didn't see Coughlin pull Eli and I wouldn't and don't expect the Bills to pull Edwards. He needs the chance to pull himself out of it. Putting JP or Hamdan in isn't going to help TE or the team.

Clearly preparing for a career in politics.

Vick's career stats so far: 75.7% passer rating. 52 yards/game rushing. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00.htm Not a bandwagon I would jump on, no matter how things look now. Oh yeah....and then there's that bothersome "convicted felon" issue.....

Did you see the camera shot of Jauron clapping? His face looked like some kind of ......undead...... thing. Jauron the Emotionless. I'll bet if you dropped a bowling ball on his foot he woud say, "Ouch" with the same emotionless puss and souless eyes.

I think the part that hurts the most, at least for me, is that the season started off with this team playing well; at least well enough to come back and win games they were losing. There were high hopes that this team was finally shaking the "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" mentality that had plagued it for too long (like the Dallas game last year). Then they got whacked by Arizona and everyone went. "Hmmmm". Then they beat San Diego and hope sprang eternal. Then the bottom fell out. This team just doesn't seem to get in sync with itself. If the defense plays well, the offensive line flops. If the offensive line plays well, Trent has a horrible game. If the offense is moving the ball, the opponent puts together 8 and 9 minute game killing drives. And on and on. If this team could get the offense and the defense playing in sync with each other, both sides playing up to par, they could give anyone a run for their money. But, as has been happening all too often, they seem to play down to the level of their opponent and maybe even below. Cleveland kicks a 56 yard field goal at the Ralph and Lindell can't make a 47 yarder in his own back yard? How embarrassing is that? It's one thing after another and really disheartening. What is it going to take to get the offense and the defense to put a complete game together? Anyone?

Well....they're in the toaster now. Remains to be seen if someone is going to turn the setting to "incinerate" and press the lever down or not. A win against the Brownies would do a lot to restore some confidence that the team is sorely lacking right now. A loss against the Clevers, on MNF, at home, would not be a good thing. This comment brought to you courtesy of Dr. Obvious.

TGJ had as many yards against Buffalo as he had all year long. If McGee wasn't up to covering him for whatever reason, then WTH didn't Fewell do something/anything about it? If a player's not healthy, he's not healthy and there's nothing he can do about it. When Fewell's D is getting torched, he just stands there with his thumb up his keester and does nothing about it. Fewell hasn't done a thing except collect a paycheck the last 3 games.

Not as much as Fewell's defense is the raw deal. Opposing QB's are pretty much having their way right now. We put little pressure on the QB and play so far off the receivers that short-mid range passes are open all game long. If I remember correctly, NY ran an 8+ minute drive and NE ran a 9+ minute drive on Fewell's defense. That kind of play is going to make a lot of QB's look good.

and then some!

If Fewell is concerned about pass coverage on the short to intermediate routes, he is utterly inept at doing anything to counteract it. That is *exactly* where the pass coverage is getting shredded. Between the dink and dunk passes and runs in between, teams are cranking off 8 and 9 minute offensive drives on Fewells defense. That's just pathetic. I wholeheartedly agree about Fewell's predictability, not to mention his inexplicable inability or refusal to make any adjustments to the defensive scheme when his group is getting torched. Just baffling.

It all starts, or stops, with the OL. The OL did a better job of pass protection against NE, but still can't run block. For guys as big as our OL are, that's baffling.

....and that's exactly what we're seeing.....Buffalo blitzing a "couple of times per game". NE blitzed twice on Buffalo's first 3 offensive plays, 2nd down (whacked TE & forced a bad throw) and 3rd down (sacked TE). The question is, "Why is Fewell's defense not putting any pressure on opposing QB's"?

Not after a 4-0 start.

Did NASA detect the presence of any offensive linemen?

I think the last part of the last sentence sums it up. The OL is not executing. I don't think that is a coaching issue, I think that is a personnel issue. If you have to "coach" an offensive lineman how to run block, especially against smaller players, then you have an inferior player. Now...if you agree with that assumption, then the question is, "Why do we have inferior offensive linemen and who is responsible for that?"

The Offensive Line. Wait....one player? The Offensive Line IS just one player. Maybe not even.

Right. The offensive line is A-List all the way. Marshawn should be running for days through all the holes those monsters are carving out. It's Edward's fault he is getting sacked so much, too. Those 3 step drops are suicide.