todd

No, Manziel's biggest errors were 1) Being violent with women. Not many "errors" bigger than that. Don't try and minimize the significance of domestic violence. It disgusts me, and shames you. 2) Lying and being a bad person. Let's face it, the guy is NOT a good person, and his teammates can't rely on him. That has nothing to do with living up to the hopes of a team. It isn't like he tried real hard but the team sucked so he couldn't do it. He didn't even try most of the time, and showed up to practice hungover. He's an ass, and I can't stand people making excuses for such a waste of space. Anyone who advocates that he join the Bills should have their head examined. Please. Really? Are you serious? Is your crusade that foolish that you STILL feel you have a sliver of an argument for the guy? Should we sign Ryan Leaf as a backup?

Always so grumpy!

Woods is like Josh Reed.

Good lord, really? We just got him to take a pay cut. I know it is the offseason, but let's stay in the real world.

Still trying to reach those straws, eh? They're still out of reach apparently.

So the year the Cheatriots were 11-4 and missed the playoffs completely they were *bad*? Really? That makes total sense! Like, wow! Really proves your rock-solid point!

It is more frustrating to try reasoning with foolish people than simply ignoring them.

Wow. Someone from Philly mocking buffalo? Wow. Pot, this is Mr. Kettle.

I'd love to take a draft pick from the cheatriots for hogan. they already don't have a first.

WGR is the station that kept blowhard "Coach" Dickerson around for years, and he was the worst. You hate Sullivan like I do? Dickerson was worse.

Gotta have something to complain about, right?

Yeah, I don't get it. He's been proven to be unreliable and not worth the money or roster spot.

I expect it could be lower than that. Another 5 years, bonus amortized, and a low first year salary could definitely help. Gilmore's salary is 11 mil or so this year. If you give him a new contract, you can give him a bonus which will be amortized over the life of the contract, reducing the yearly hit. And if it is combined with a decent salary the first few years, he could definitely be in the $7 to $9 mil range per year.

I'm upset that the talent he had is no longer with the Bills, but watching a guy stand around and make zero effort on plays was disgusting. Not sure how anyone who is pissed that he's been released thinks that this kind of effort is worth even 7 mil a year, let alone 20.

He could be making double what he pulls in now. As the GOAT (it sickens me to say it, but it is true), he should be paid as such. There's got to be some type of back room deal on this. A company Brady owns must be contracting with the chatriots somehow, and he's getting cash like that.

Vet minimum, with bonuses that are unlikely so the don't count on the cap. If that's the contract, I'm in. Otherwise, no way.

This lead to the media is just a bargaining tactic by the Bills. The don't want to tag him, but they will if they need to.

Do you know what is awesome? Your contradictions from post to post, or within the same post. PFF is fallible, too, homey, same as scouts. Guards can't be evaluated without taking a look at the situation and the players next to them, and pff is notorious for relying on numbers and nothing else, which anyone who can think critically knows limits the value of the evaluation . I'm sure they would have loved to have him sit and learn, but he was the best option. Giving up on a rookie who played injured all year is idiotic. Period. But it is much lazier from a intellectual standpoint to think something should be blown up every year if it doesn't go well.

This is getting sad. The guy needs help before he gets more self-destructive. I don't like to see anyone spiraling downwards the way this guy is. He's probably in quite a bit of emotional/psychological pain. Still don't want him as a Buffalo Bill, tho. Not sure there's anyone left who would.

Sully embarrasses himself every time he sits down at a keyboard.

Fact: There isn't a franchise QB in every draft. Most everything I've read says that all QBs in the draft this year would benefit from sitting a few years. If that is the case, do you want to do that with a 1st round pick, or do you want to do that with a 3rd round pick?

Yep. I don't think anyone disagrees that the defense was bad last year, especially given the quality of players. Where I think people disagree is the solution. My personal opinion is that often a solution is more nuanced than the neanderthal "I hate it! Blow it up!" solution that so many posters here think is the only way. Preaching patience doesn't sell newspapers and it doesn't get page views. But it is often simpler jump to the "BLOW IT UP!" conclusion than an analysis of a better one.

If anyone still thinks spending a roster spot on this guy is worthwhile after this latest incident, I'd love to hear why. Mea-culpas are welcome as well. Maybe something like this: https://youtu.be/WkqgDoo_eZE

It can work well because it worked well in essentially the same defense with Pettine the year before. You want evidence? There it is. I know. But EJ is still better than Johnny $hitball and Tim Tebow, that's for sure. And a better teammate than Manziel.

Hell yeah! We should totally give up on a guy after his first year as a starter in the NFL. I'm sick of the losing! Truthfully, we should get someone like Tebow to come play for us. Or better yet, Johnny Football. They have great names, and I've heard of them more than once.