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if that is his strategy, i think it blows.........detriot had keroy kennedy in town and put the full court press on him because he was scheduled to go to miami next.........they did everything they could to get him signed and wouldn't let him get on that plane........they got their man, and that is the bottom line.........
and where is demulling headed next again? hmmmmmmmmm
Say something good about Tom Donahoe. I dare you.
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Absolutely. I know of far more extremists that hate TD and find it difficult to see that he has done ANYTHING good at all. I think mostly what people disagree on are what TD's mistakes are.
For example, I think TD's biggest mistakes are:
GW, the kicking position, and not getting rid of BOTH RJ and Fwootie that first year.
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What are you suggesting? That I'm a moron?
Here's what I asked:
If someone doesn't care to give details for me to refute, why should I?
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Moron is a blanket statement, especially in the context of a football fan board. This isn't the math olympiad. Being a fan doens't necessarily constitute being a student of the game. So if you want to say that some people have no grasp of "reality" then I can agree with you... but to judge their level of intelligence on a football message board is kind of a stretch.
Of course being a fan doesn't necesitate being a student of the game, but I don't think it's too much to ask for someone to have just a little understanding of a process if they'd like to discuss it.
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Nice try. I have nothing to refute - there's no substance to his examples. BTW - you didn't answer my question properly either.
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Let's not forget to mention the faith that our Bills organization put in him by drafting him and paying him despite his desire to fulfill his AF committment. Not every team would do that.
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You know Todd, it would have been nice to have a discussion where perhaps in the end we agree to disagree and not had to interject personal inuslts like calling people morons becuase they disagree with you. From your response, obviously, that isn't going to happen. Just one more adult male on the TBD acting like a 12 year old in a locker room rank fight because lord knows, that is just what this place needs more of.
Whatever, Mick. I mentioned the word moron, because to tell you the truth there are plenty of people who ARE morons. I know it sounds elitist, but when you read 100 posts saying "we should sign XXX" or "we shoulda done xxx" it drives me nuts. What kind of MORON thinks that decisions are made in a vacum? I'll stand by my moron statement not because someone disagrees with me - that's where you are completely wrong - but because if someone is incapable of supporting an argument with logic, they ARE a moron.
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Moving to Vonage and using a cable modem is still cheaper than paying for long distance carrier, local carrier, and internet connectivity.
What is everyone using for the local call provider? We are using Verizon and it costs us about $42/month. There must be something cheaper! Any alternatives?Note: We still use a modem to connect to the Internet...still have basic cable...etc. So before everyone starts throwing out grandiose ideas, keep that in mind. We watch our pennies from month to month. We have been managing on one income for the last 5 years. Any ideas to help trim a few $$ from the budget would be much appreciated.
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Again, the Pitt starting o-line played the entire game. Let's not rewrite history.
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Actually, if you watched the game you would realize that the Steelers' starting OL played the entire game.
Would that be the same defense that got spanked by Pitts 2nd and 3rd Stringers?Let's get real here. Yes, the bills have a pretty good defense... but... the only >.500 team they manged to beat was the Jets. So, if you hang your hat on the bills #2 ranking on D, you're gonna lose that hat.
Furthermore... with the bills losing Pat Williams, it's not only that DT position they've managed to mess up, because without a better than average DT next to him, Sam Adams is totally ineffective. One Adams starts to get double teamed, he's done... and none of the the Bills DEs consistently beat their man straight up. So, unless someone emerges at DT, get used to watching that #2 defense get consistenly busted up the middle.
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Are you kidding me? Donahoe blows! He couldn't draft anyone if he tried!
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/ind...d=31040&ntpid=6From the front page of TBD:
I really respect an NFL player, especially one that has had success and makes a lot of money, as a #1 does for example, to go back to school and get his degree in the off season. That shows a ton of character. Good for you, Lee. He's already pretty good, but this guy is going to be great, IMO.
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My point is that I'm pretty sure I can take a look at every draft and FA move and come up with things that they did wrong, or turned out wrong.
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Nice try. You didn't answer my questions. Basically, who is a better GM over the past 4 years. Give details, incl specific moves, and overall general philosophy. You didn't do that. You just bitched a bit more, which is useless. You can B word all you want, but only morons complain without attempting to balance bad moves with good. I haven't seen you try that.
So read my post again, and at least attempt to name me 4 GMs who have done a better job. I expect details of specific moves, and general philosophy. If you can't do that, explain why you can't, or else every argument you lay out makes you look like an idiot.
You want details? Gregg Williams: so good he was fired. Ryan Denney: so good we had to take another RDE the very next draft. Travis Henry: so good we had to spend a 1st rounder to replace him with Willis. Reed: So good we had to spend a first rounder on Evans. Teague: so good he was taken in the 7th round and dumped by Denver who knows a bit about offensive lineman. Tucker: so good Parcells cut him but what does he know about offensive lines and power running football. Drew: so good we had to use a first rounder to get him and another one to replace him. Mike Williams: showed up in camp out of shape and an emotional basket case. Let Hollis go but sticks with Lindel through thick and thin.I could go on. The bottom line is wins and you can make all the excuses for him you want but at some point you have to hold him responsible for results. He gets the same cut of the TV revenue and the same number of draft picks as every other team in the league does. Sorry but I don't think it is unreasonable to expect results in his 5th year. That is longer than most GMs and/or head coaches get.
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I'm not sure what "great things" your are talking about, ticket prices maybe? His job is to produce a winning team, he hasn't. What he has so far achieved is mediocrity. Not good enough for me. He needs to do better or update his resume. No more excuses. I'm not interested in the statistical rank of our defense, I want wins.
Gee, and I don't. Why don't you outline who you think is a better GM in the NFL over the past 4 years, why, and specify specific moves and general philosophy. I want details. I bet you can't come up with 4.
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I guess it's all how you look at it. Some people have a bad taste in their mouth because he did a few things right out of the gate:
1. Purged popular players to fix the cap.
2. Got rid of the little prick flutie.
3. Decided to keep Rob "China" Johnson.
Overall, I think your issues with TD are valid, however, there's a few I disagree with. You've got to evaluate someone in the context of what they were trying to do.
>1. Hiring Gregg Williams.
I don't have a beef with hiring him. I have a beef with not firing him earlier.
2. 2002 draft, day 1.
Give me a break. Mike Williams played well last year. Coy Wire is an amazing special teams player. You can't hit on everything, and if you'd care to look at TD's draft record overall you might have a different opinion. But my issue with this, and your criticisim, is that you pick out tidbits instead of absorbing an entire tenure.
3. Not outright releasing Drew Bledsoe after the 2003 season.
Right. And pick up who? What would have been the plan?
4. Not making the playoffs in 2003 or 2004.
I guess TD shares part of the blame for this, but so does the rest of the team. And do you think if we released Bledsoe, we would have even been in position to get to the playoffs? Look at the big picture of what you are pissed about, and you'll see that if you create scenarios with what you coulda woulda shoulda done, we probably wouldn't have been in position to be in the playoffs, anyway. Think about it.
5. Not respecting the kicker position in football.
Agreed. I hate lindell. However the Moorman pickup was outright brilliant. Look at the big picture.
6. Overpaying for guys at certain positions - Troy Vincent at FS, Teague at C, MW at RT, Villarial at RG, Prioleau and Wire at backup SS, etc...
Whatever. I don't think Teague, Vincent, Villarial OR Williams are overpaid. Sorry, but criticism of what Williams is getting paid shows a complete lack of understanding regarding how draft signings work. Think about it. You are slotted in salary AND bonus at #4 and you can't do a damn thing about it. Your criticizm is starting to get a little unwarranted to say the least.
7. Building a team with the stars focused at the LB and offensive "skill" positions rather than upfront on the OL and DL.
Really? So signing Sam Adams and drafting / resigning Schoebel is ignoring the DL? Really? I find that facts disagree with your perception of reality. Drafting an OL in the first round ignores the line? Hiring McNally ignores the line? Give me a break, man. Additionally, I don't think you can critisize a defense ranked top 5 in the NFL for two years running.
8. Already being at the salary cap limit for 2005, only 2 years following the period where we were unofficially out of "salary cap jail."
Um, there's a difference between being under the cap and over. You lack of understanding regarding contracts and cap is getting funny. Do you remember that when Donahoe got here we were over the cap by like 20 million and only had 40 player counting toward that number? We couldn't even field a friggin team! Dude, get a clue. We have room to sign anyone worthwhile that we want. Cut Wire, and there's our space. We can do whatever we please when it comes to signing players, because we can field a full roster and we're still under the cap.
Of course Steven in MD agrees with you. He's still pissed about the salary cap purge. He thinks that having 40 players signed and you're still over the cap is a workable situation. If this is the type of "knowledge" you have agreeing with you, you might want to check the "facts" you are basing your opinions on.
TD isn't perfect, and I don't like being out of the playoffs, but he's done some great things while he's here that far outweigh any misses he's had.
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I think our best D-lineman was Sam Adams.
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this is where are you confused.......i don't slag TD for paying UFA's........i slag TD for his poor record in keeping good, young players due to his "lowball" style of negioations.......a team with a healthy cap should not let half of their good, young players walk out the door.........you think they should, which is fair enough, but i disagree with his style........
Oh, I understand. Like Moulds and Schoebel. Ah, I get it.
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That's interesting. Neither do the Bills. Right?
The budget cuts
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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We may not agree on Donahoe, but we're in 100% agreement on this one.