DC Tom

Yeah...the Turks could not have moved as soon as they did without forewarning. Which means this was planned, probably starting a minimum of four weeks ago. The media's been caught flat-footed, but are so out of touch with reality that they can't begin to understand that them not knowing doesn't mean it wasn't planned. Have to go back and look at the news from late summer, to see which US officials were visiting Turkey.

Actually, the biggest near-term problem will be the influx of Kurdish refugees into northern Iraq. This is not and never was just a "Syria/Turkey" issue. It's important to remember that all those borders are largely theoretical.

Let's also not forget that there are three different Kurdish groups in Syria that are internationally designated terrorist organizations - the KPP, the YPG, and Ansar al-Islam. Which, not coincidentally, are who the Turkish are fighting. Primarily the KPP, which has been recognized as a terrorist organization by all of NATO since the 80s.

It should be the point. Why is the President prohibited from rescinding the previous DHS Secretary's memo. DACA shouldn't even be a topic of conversation.

No.

I probably will. I was "fired" from a startup in 2002. The CEO had it in for me (according to others), and the company tried to get me to quit by making my life a living hell. After I wrote them a letter explaining "constructive dismissal is illegal" they gave me six months' severance to leave. Two weeks later they laid off half the company with a week's severance. They were pretty serious dipshits. The Courier Express closed the following week. IT WAS YOU!!!!

No, Obama did not sign DACA. Napolitano signed it.

Footnote 16 is very interesting. What did Trump's signing statement say, exactly?

We ALREADY hate Trump, you ignorant ****head.

So that means the whistleblower is using federal resources and influence to influence the election... You couldn't make this ***** up if you tried.

If US soldiers were that influential, international politics would be a vastly different scene than it is.

"Because they're more concerned with lining their pockets than safety." Lining thier pockets...in bankruptcy, with $30B in liability and criminal charges threatened? When did people get this stupid?

We talking about Rwanda again? "Never again" is the biggest lie in international politics. I remember when abandoning the Kurds to Assad and the Russians was sound, enlightened foreign policy.

You search news stories in the 2010-2015 time frame, and you find articles from the Times, Atlantic, etc. saying the same damn things about Biden that Trump is saying now. And that those same outlets are now making excuses for. (Note that they're hard to search for - Google doesn't return them. You seriously need a Lexis-Nexis account to chase this stuff down.)

I’m so old, I can remember when California was an aspirational place, and not a warning to the rest of America. IF I RECALL, THERE’S A SCENE EXACTLY LIKE THIS IN ISAAC ASIMOV’S FOUNDATION: . What did everyone think was going to happen when they sued PG&E for $30B and drove them in to bankruptcy? Create that much liability for a company to do business, and they won't do business.

I am. I made that point to my wife around 3pm, and she just read it back to me now, laughing.

Seriously, you think the Candied Yam in Chief is the mastermind behind any of this? He's the figurehead. The lightning rod that keeps the whole edifice from burning down.

That is so extraordinarily illegal. I can't even buy federal workers coffee, because of ethics violations.

I made this point hours ago. No one ever listens to me.

There's always a way to spin it: "Fake news!" Or don't even report it. You know, if the media doesn't report the investigation results, but starts reporting with the indictments, warrants, and arrests, they get to set the narrative "Trump has control of the executive, law enforcement, and the courts. Just like Hitler in 1934!" People don't do their own research; they are going to believe what they're told. And what they'll be told is that Trump has taken control of the police and the courts and the civil service, and is using them to persecute his political opposition, including First Amendment violations in persecuting the free press (since Brennan is likely to be one of the first of anyone to be picked up.) And accurate or not, that narrative is a single Reichstag fire short of the NSDAP playbook.

Well...in DR's defense, we are still in the phase of "Look! This new information damns Trump!" We haven't yet moved to the "This new information that damns us was faked by Trump, which damns Trump!" phase. Although we've started moving to that phase with the "Trump's lying about Biden, even though Biden confirmed it!"

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Was actually told today that it was unprecedented for the US to abandon allies like the Kurds like this. Yeah...hasn't happened since the Obama administration, who was the first to do it since W, who was the first to do it since Clinton, who was the first since H.W.... And that's just the Kurds. Wonder how the Hmong feel about this?

How? Are CNN/WaPo/NYT no longer going to be setting it? Keeping in mind: the narrative they've already set is "Trump is using the authority of the Executive Branch to persecute political opponents." Nothing that can conceivably be released can change that - in fact, anything that would change the national narrative actually reinforces the current narrative.