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It would make sense if we have a monster contract to sign for a new talent, say Higgins or Metcalf (I think DK would be much cheaper and cost a pick) or Crosby or Hendricks (dude from Cincy who was in NO before) or whoever. I'd bet his agent would want him to not extend now tho, maybe just restructure for cap games.
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5 hours ago, SCBills said:
If this statement is true, there is zero reason to pay Benford.As we stand, we have a recent 2nd Round pick at Safety, a highly paid slot corner and a CB1 who looks to command a 20M+ AAV contract.
That’s 3/5th of the Secondary.
I think benford is a great story and a really good player, but he just isn't like a Ramsey or that guy we got out of SC who went to the pats, he doesn't have their overall ability. Being banged up two years in a row doesn't help me expectation of his future either, so ya I don't think we'd be right to give him 20 per.
MCDs ds have performed so absolutely terribly in the playoffs it might not matter much. I think best case is we min max it and get one stud Cb this off season and just draft a bunch of high potential guys and hope a few work out on d
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Groot and Torrence played poorly on this game (Torrence was straight cheeks) but they both had comments about KC just dialed up the right blitz/changed where pressure was coming from or that KC ran plays they never saw.
That tells me they think their coaches don't know what they are doing.
Given how utter trash our d has been every playoff exit, and that our HC is a d minded coach, and that our OC has no success of any kind before Allen had the fewest toxic plays per snap of any QB ever, I can't blame them
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39 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:
Why do you feel like he's done the best?
If you summarize the Bills Defence as a whole, by all accounts they were probably in the 17-20 range
Where in years past they have been top 5, and if I'm not mistaken I think we're number 1 in one season.
Tyler Dunn had an article. In our elimination games we have had
40 non-kneeldown drives
22 touchdowns
9 field goals
8 punts
1 missed field goal
2 turnovers
166 points allowed … good for 4.15 points per non-kneeldown drive.
On D.
That's five games.
This doesn't include Baltimore walking on us, or Indy lighting us up, or Skyler what's his name for Miami.
This is w Frazier, w him as dc, and with this new loser.
We had our top 3 or top 5 ds in some of those years. We had our all pro safeties and prime tre white. We had most of our cap and our picks spent on the defensive side of the ball.
We had our league leading turnover production (or too 3 or whatever) on these teams.
How the hell does anyone think Sean MCD isn't going to ish himself again in a playoff loss? How can anyone be satisfied with this performance? This is with Allen literally having the best playoff stats of any QB ever on a team that puts its treasure into the d.
So yes I think babbich should be canned, his d sucked out loud, but sadly I don't see how it matters.
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A few factors. Allen is better at holding for longer, we don't have great WRS for it, and we really don't scheme for it.
KC doesn't really have early man beating wrs (worthy seems to have to run a bit to find space), but they scheme the heck out of it and torched us with quick throws.
I think a better oc would mix some in to give us new wrinkles
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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:
You conveniently forget how Cook got blown up trying to block for Allen. That's why he wasn't playing there. Ty Johnson is the better blocker.
Very true. Ironically, they ran w ty and then passed w Cook in to block. They had our best runner block, and our best blocker run.
Once again outsmarting themselves
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we need to get some actual talent in the secondary. i kinda have hope for bishop, but he made quite a few mistakes. rapp is what we've seen, hamlin is trash. assuming benford's brain isn't leaking out of his nose, he'll be solid again next season. I say we sign a stud or throw our first at a CB. we need someone who can cover man and zone.
we'll need an actual athlete at FS too.
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the more breakdowns i watch of the bills d vs baltimore and kc in the playoffs, the more certain i am that our biggest talent hole is in the defensive secondary.
mahomes got rid of the ball in 1.7 seconds on average when we played man, and barely over 2 when we played zone. no pass rush is gonna change that consistently.
now, obviously i fade our coaches hard, but in the interest of what i think will work best for the team given who will be calling the shots, i agree with OP that the one impact that will give us our best chance is a top flight outside weapon. hollins had two back breaking catches on high leverage downs, one was a td one was like 3 yards shy. if a scrub like that is our best passing weapon vs the champs, then you have to think adding an actual player on the outside will pay dividends. im thinking trade for dk metcalf, sign higgens, or whoever else is a top flight guy we might be able to get.
id' also look to add pass rush and dbs, specifically corner. I'd be happy to trade picks for a real impact guy at either position. after that, just fill in the roster with draft picks, we have a bunch of them, and start like 6 or 7 rookies on d if we need to (i don't think it comes to that, we have at least 2 DL, both LBs, one CB and one S on the team, so i could see 4 rookies and one vet). it's not like we aren't already giving mahomes his highest epa game of the season and his highest success rate of his career after dumping tons of cap and oodles of high picks into our DL and defense in general, and we are already dealthy afraid of losing johson, bernard, milano, von (when he didn't suck), oliver, jones, bernard, and both of our safeties, all of whom have been out with injuries multiple times, so build on strenght and get allen a monster.
in short, our d sucks balls even after all the over investment, so let's stop doing that like morons and make the O in a class by itself and just throw bodies at the D so we don't have hamlin and elam and whatever street free agent we usually have in high leverage downs on DL.
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i think anything should be tried.
i saw a video (bussin w the boys) about the game. they pointed out how much the bill suck at running the tush push vs philly. they described it as "allen just shifts to his left and goes straight forward, trying to get it on his own" vs how the philly one has a sort of wedge block upfront, and big strong guys ganging up to push hurts.
after that video, i went back and watched some replays, and they are exactly right. our qb is so good they have been converting with basic butt qb sneaks w a tiny wr playing david copafeel on allen as he fights for space. also, our coaches are such clowns they never once changed the direction, the set up, or the players involved.
i think mcd judges offense based on what beats his d. given his d is literally the woat in the playoffs, he must love every offensive play ever drawn up.
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Just now, Mango said:
Lol. You just described the Sabresthe sabres don't have josh allen
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17 minutes ago, I'mBuff said:
The reality of Brady is for all the good he brought in scoring he still failed in his biggest moment. His lack of creativity is the biggest reason we lost. His inability to integrate Cooper effectively and a lesser extent MVS, was a critical flaw. Getting away from Cook at crucial junctures of the game and repeatedly relying on the Tush push that was not working are all unforgivable offenses. It’s hard to say he’s a problem with all the success we had, but the goal isn’t to be AFC East champions, he did not show he has what it takes to win a Super Bowl . A few better calls from him and we are preparing for our 5th Super Bowl. Sadly he is a major reason we are not.
It's pretty clear Brady blows when it calls to running a passing offense.
The quality of the blocking, concepts, success rate, creativity, ability to stress the d, etc is so much better in our run game than in our pass game. We still end up having longer to read plays and higher degree of difficulty stuff than our opponents. Some of that is because of how horrible mcds d is, but too much of it is not playing advantage football on the offensive side.
I think our coaches are great at getting guys to get along, getting them motivated and on the same page, getting them to bleed for the team (Hamlin rapp Taron and now benford running into the fire with near certainty of permanent brain injury show that). People love our coaching staff, and our entire front office rewards their guys with generous contracts and a seemingly family type environment.
I don't give one flying f*** about that. I want a championship and re racking the same losing formula over and over with feel good stories about small slow dbs turning their brains into pink slime with an aw shucks let's try our best attitude isn't going to get us there.
Our prior dc walked away, defensive failures are identical to the same team in the same situation as it was before.
Dabill left for an hc job, Dorsey got the same results with another divisional loss.
Dorsey got scape goated (I don't feel bad, he sucked anyhow) and Brady came in for the next two playoffs -- losing the same way to the same team.
If changing the OC and DC gets you the same results, losing or adding a bunch of talent in different spots gets you the same results, you have to find other variables to change.
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1 hour ago, folz said:
Remind us again how McCarthy's track record is way better. I don't think you can, other than to say he won one Super Bowl (which is nothing to sniff at...he won the big game---but track record tends to mean overall).
Mike McCarthy Sean McDermott
Wins/losses: 174-112-2 (.608) 86-45 (.656)
Playoff record: 11-11 (.500) 7-7 (.500)
Playoff bids: 12 of 18 yrs (.666) 7 of 8 yrs (.875)
McDermott: 7 years with Josh Allen, 1 year with Tyrod Taylor [2 Conference Championship game appearances, 0-2]
McCarthy: 13 years with Aaron Rodgers, 5 years with Dak Prescott [4 Conference Championship game appearances, 1-3; 1 SB appearance (win)]
Yes, McCarthy has a Super Bowl. He also coached for 18 years (13 with a first ballot HOFer, and 5 with another very good QB). Are you telling me that you don't think McDermott could get a team to 2 more conference championships, and win 1, if he coached for 10 more years (with Josh as his QB for at least 6 more years)? So, how much better is McCarthy again?
Payton had a first-ballot Hall of Famer as his QB for 15 years. He only made 1 Super Bowl appearance. 1 in 15 years. Yes, it was a win (he did it). But you guys would be going crazy if we only made 1 Super Bowl appearance in 15 years with Josh. Payton had 6 seasons with Drew Brees where they didn't even make the playoffs. Can you imagine missing the playoffs 6 times with Josh? The board would explode. From 2010-2017, the Saints (with Payton and Brees) missed the playoffs 4 times, lost a Wild Card game, and lost 3 divisional round playoff games. How would Bills fans have felt about those 8 seasons if it were MCD and Josh?
Payton w/Brees McDermott w/Josh
Wins/losses: 152-89 (.630) 77-38 (.670)
Playoff record: 7-7 (.500) 7-6 (.538)
Playoff bids: 9 of 15 yrs (.600) 6 of 7 yrs (.857)
McDermott: 7 years with Josh Allen, 1 year with Tyrod Taylor [2 Conference Championship game appearances, 0-2]
Payton: 15 years with Drew Brees, 1 year with Russell Wilson, 1 year Bo Nix [3 Conference Championship game appearances, 1-2; 1 SB appearance (win)]
Now I'm sure we'll hear, yeah, but Josh is way better than Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers.
Guarantee? Come on guy...you can not guarantee anything. what a joke.
Interesting Topic, after Josh just did an interview like a week ago saying he basically has two goals for his career, stay in Buffalo his whole career, and bring a Super Bowl victory to the people of Buffalo. A huge part of why Josh loves Buffalo is because of the culture of the team that Sean, Brandon, and The Pegulas have created. I can GUARANTEE (😉) you that Josh does not want a new staff or to be traded and I bet that he blames himself as much as the coaching staff, front office, or other talent for the team's failures (that's just who Josh is).
That's a good objection.
I say it's better because he had success as an assistant (superbowls and a win w brett favre) and in his first 8 years w greenbay he won a chip (year five i think).
green bay was roughly where we are now after that, always scary, always in contention, usually losing to the eventual champs. the only difference is he had a couple more first game playoff exits than we have (we were pretty close to losing to indy and miami, two much inferior teams, in round 1).
i think he's done a good job in dallas. dak has been hurt, and this past season he had a retread get them to a winning record. do you have confidence mcd would have a winning record if allen went down for the season?
i'm not saying mccarthy is an all timer coach, not even close. I'm saying he's a lot like mcd, except he's had success on his side of the ball, while mcd has not had success on his side of the ball in the playoffs.
in particular, mcd has gone stale (reid and dungy went stale on their prior teams, who both went on to win chips, and those two guys won chips after the fact, showing that coaches with more success than mcd got fired and their teams moved forward after and won it all. philly even fired the guy who brought them a chip with a back up qb no less and are in their 2nd sb in 3 years with the replacement, sort of doubling down the removal of a stale coach theory). we lose the same way every year, and to the same team in 4 out of 5 years.
in addition, mccarthy had dom capers and the pettine as dcs. while no spaggs, they were both established dcs with track records. this shows he is willing to bring in someone with some seniority to run the other side of the ball. mcd had that loser we started with, daboll who had zero track record, and then two rookie ocs. he thinks he is so smart and is too special to be challenged so he won't bring in someone with a real track record to c his o.
when you are looking for results you have never achieved, you must do things you have never done. mcd does the same things and gets the same results and i think with allen and some of the guys on this team in this terrible division, you have a high enough floor to risk missing out on a slightly better loss at the end of each season.
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Von has sucked since his knee injury. Bad luck, but it will go down as the second worst move by the front office. The first worst move was reworking his deal which moved it from a 3 y 51mm dollar deal (guaranteed more or less) to closer to the full 6y 120mm.
He took a little cut in the end w the incentive stuff, which is nice, but he's been a bad player for our d
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9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't agree the play was doomed from the start. I do agee that Torrence clearly screwed the pooch whatever the line adjustment was.
why are you defending these play calls?
the degree of difficulty they impose on the offense is insane, vs the best blitzing dc and a great d on the road. and it's a play and a formation we've run many times on 4th down. don't you expect a good coach to change it up, or do something different to break tendencies?
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2 minutes ago, Preds said:
I love this arrogant type of response. Enjoy your Shottenheimer/Lewis level coach that will never get over the hump and will waste away the 2nd half of Josh's career without an appearance in the Super Bowl, much less a championship, . McD can't take this team any farther, and the only reason McD and his crap defense has the record he has is because of #17.
The drought era coaches would win 10 games+ each season with 17.
McD and our JV level staff are anchor's on Josh's greatness and holding him back from being a champion.the didn't run cook (four carries in the first half, no touches on the final drive) who was clearly the best player on the field.
on d, they put a spy on mahomes zero times. he ran for a bunch of first downs and two tubs. our d is an underpowered open book for opponents, and on O, they just have to hold out until we run the same play out of the same formation that we have before (tush push and the empty w the orbit on the last play). if we had kept going to cook, and went to him early, we wear down their d and score more in the first half and watch kc fail to get enough points or miss an onside to close out the game.
it was right there, AND THEY LET THEM OFF THE HOOK, THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY ARE!
marv lewis was in a much tougher division and had a much worse qb, he'd do no worse with this team IMO
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just like how everyone used to read peanuts comics to see charlie brown the lovable loser get the football yanked away, they tune in to see the exquisite pain the bills can inflict upon their fans.
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9 minutes ago, mannc said:
Except that every time Bills have done it, they’ve been burned.
True, but we gotta go for it. We have way too many ok guys and non athletes. We need to get physical match up problems and one or two proven high quality players.
If we can trade for Metcalf and Crosby, or whatever, guys like that change what we can do on high leverage downs and can put us over the top in the playoffs.
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obviously i want to clean house (wanted it since 13 seconds).
in reality, i think the ST corch gets canned, i could see some assistants getting shuffled, position coaches replaced, outside chance a consultant comes in for special situations or some kind of thing, but aside from smiley i don't see much change in the front office.
player wise, cook is a clear must extend. i could see allen getting a rework or extension to create cap and keep him around longer. von is a cut, likely june cut. hamlin tests FA, but i don't think they want him to be the starter next season. milano will be kept, he was really good in the playoffs and will cost to much to cut.
i could see some contracts reworked or extended.
the garrett trade mentioned above would be a dream, but isn't that DE in cinci a free agent? him and higgins might be my top targets for monster FA contracts. we need pass rush, and we need an offensive weapon. i want as many chips put into the best outside wr and the best pass rusher i can get.
for the rest of the roster, i think you just draft guys with athletic skills to get faster and stronger. we had morrow and spencer out there with bishop and cam lewis vs baltimore. some group of rookies and street free agents can get us there.
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We only have slot guys.
Shakir, Coleman, Samuel, and Kincaid are just slot wrs. Hollins is our only outside guy, and he plays tight end on a bunch of snaps.
A real outside talent would have put this team over the top, and I say that as a certified mccorch hater.
I don't know who's available, Higgins, Metcalf, etc, but we need talent there.
If we have any relationship left w the nyg, I'd consider a trade w them for bucoup picks for Malik.
Run with cook, block w our line, and have Allen pace bombs to a real number 1. It doesn't have to be 120 catches 2k yards, but we need a threat
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Advanced stats tell the deeper story. Our d is even worse than many think in the playoffs overall, and woat vs kc.
Given that MCD is just gonna run it back all over again, I say sign one stud upfront who can steal some plays and make Oliver Groot and then better, some kind of CB so we can actually play man effectively from time to time, and put all the other chips into the O.
Higgins or Metcalf on our team on Sunday might have broken a couple big ones and also improved our short yardage stuff by stressing the d. Maxx Crosby terrorizing mahomes wouldn't get Hamlin or Groot to their jobs better containing basic QB runs to the edge, so the bigger gains are likey to be from improving the O.
We have to min max the roster changes
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I watch a consolation bowl every year. Usually it's the bills having a respectable loss to KC I nthe playoffs
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Biggest gain would be a bonafide baller at outside wr.
We need a pass rush power on the DL, de or dt sill do, most likely de since they tend to be the best rushers.
We need CB, Douglas will be gone and a real stud beside benford could be a huge impact.
If I'm allocating resources, I go big on WR, CB, and DE and fill the rest of the gaps w youth and talent and who we got already.
We can't do more of this expanded middle class thing where we spend money on Curtis Samuel and a high picks on Coleman and Kincaid and what we spend on DL rotation depth to have them sit so much. We need to add a couple real stars.
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46 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:
Regarding Josh having problems identifying pressure and adjusting pressure... what's Mahomes weakness? Because, going off the regular season and the Divisional game against the Texans, it seems like the Chiefs offense can be exposed. And yet, come play off time against the Bills, they can just run up any score they need.
Our d makes life easy for opposing QBs. Part of it is talent, but they've dumped a lot of resources in this d over the past 5 seasons and every exit is the same. We allow teams to have literally their best offensive game of their season against us.
Mahomes had his best EPA of the year on Sunday, and the highest success rate on drop backs of his career. That's a good measure of how easy it is to move the ball, and that was the easiest game he's ever played.
Our coaching is really bad in these games. These guys are chokers and can't come up with anything that works, and while they tend to improve with their adjustments, the performance after the adjustment is still AZZ.
Elam is much worse than benford, but the d was actually as bad or worse w benford in because it was early and KC was running scripted plays and ripping our man coverage.
Mahomes is great but like anyone he can be tricked and beaten, our coaches just panic and choke and can't do it when it counts
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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Lots of things to respond to.
As for teams getting the jump on us, you know the fact that, in most cases, the Bills adjust. Does that not matter more?
If you think Allen gets us 12-13 wins, then you're saying coaches don't matter.
Lastly, you make a big leap saying things end the same way. They might be losses but they aren't for the same reasons. Thinking changing one head coach is the answer is the height of arrogance. Maybe you missed the part that no other NFL team has solved the Chiefs riddle the past three years. You think you're going to find the one guy smarter than Ried?
The bills make basic fundamental errors and get confused playing KC. Not having cook get more touches isn't solving a riddle, it's not falling back into the same mistakes that we've made four times vs kc.
The reason we want to change MCD And co is because it's gone stale, and at its best it wasn't good enough
Philly fired reid and won a chip, Tampa fired Dungy and won a chip. Those are two guys who won chips themselves who their teams fired and then got themselves a Lombardi.
Sometimes you just have to switch it up
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It Goes Back to 13 Seconds, Doesn't It?
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Any way you measure a head coach, with the exception of lots of regular season wins over his tenure here, MCD is terrible.
He's Marvin Lewis with the goat at QB.
Worst d ever into he playoffs, but spends so many picks and cash on it we can't get a better wr than hollins for the only player in NFL history with 4 or 5 consecutive TD seasons.