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he is far from perfect, but who else can we sign this offseason? i'd like him here as an OC.

fo sho it's coaching. we don't have anyone, save wyche, who has done anything at any level at the job they walked in here with. Grey IMO rode lebeu and is clearly predictable on D (san diego knew exactly what to do against us every single play, had us bite on fakes, and checked out of deep plays to short ones perfectly) clements has pretty much been canned by mularky taking his job. mularky SEEMED to be solid at some points last year, but is looking sh!!!t this year. i think a new HC can do well if he gets solid people around him, i don't think we have that and i think mularky might be ho hum to start with. i'd like to see martz in here, even though he is insane. he is smart and can run a great passing O. we just need some kind of control measure to ensure he runs enough.

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I agree with the point that the management at Ford and GM is bad. I disagree with you on the social safety net impact on buisness. in europe and canada the government picks up the tab for healthcare and pensions (or at least they do to a much greater extent than in the USA), this is an advantage for a unionized corporations cost base. by not having to pay these costs for workers, the employer can save money and avoid legacy contracts that cost the employer well into the former employee's retirement. european corporations (and american operations in europe) get big fat subsidies and tax breaks (the republic of ireland is the best example) to thelp them compete with lower cost competiters, they also get some pork by way of tariffs and trade restrictions (the us does as well, just to a lesser extent). the costs for all of the above is taken out on consumers and taxpayers. the health care system in the USA is far from private in the sense that the government is heavily involved in it at every level (this is more in response to another post above).

GM's number one problem is their labour agreement. they are in the hole over 10 billion dollars a year vs toyota in wages, health care and pensions. that means that they pay 10 yards MORE than what toyota pays, and people who work at toyota auto plants make a hell of a lot more than typical unskilled labours. gm's stupid management is to blame for getting into this agreement, and they are just bad at most things they do anyhow (costs them over $100 every time one department orders something from another, there are giant commitees of been counters messing with design and change implementation etc.). that said, unions aren't some magical robin hood, they are a an attempt by labour to get paid more at the expense of the product producer. unions themselves are organizations with procedures and are as capable of Effing up like GM has. unions end up costing the consumer, and as a consumer i don't want to pay more so some particular unskilled worker can make more while doing a bad job on a car. i'd rather see the product made better and cheaper oversees so i can get a better value than watch someone live high off the hog at my expense. unions only service their members (and with corruption they don't always do that very well) so they don't keep the US from being a third world country or protect the "common man", they only protect their memebers, at the expense of their ultimate customers. if you really want better wages and working conditions do some research and improve your job skills. no one is owed a living

relax. is he your husband or something? did you buy a long snapper jersey to be unique? i'm sure we'll be able to sign him or find a new long snapper

i see us tagging and trading clements, drafting a day 1 corner (will have 5 day one picks, i see DT, LT, then SS, Corner, LB/DT/DE in the first day). with clements gone, we put TV at corner, baker/rook at FS. the next year we are done with milloy. and there we have a new secondary. i don't think we will cut M williams (I am 60% on this, it could happen). I see our team thinking he can still be a good RT, or a very good G and just getting him to blend and extend his contract and avoid a bunch of his upcoming roster bonuses. if he can get say about 3 or 4 bucks a year in FA, it is worth us to pay him a bit more (say 1 buck a year more) for him to stay (assuming he can be a solid RT, I think our team still feels the he can be). this will free up cap room and along with preston/villarial will solidify our right side. i expect 1 or 2 new FA linemen coming in, and either peters or a high rook to be an upgrade at LT. i'd expect bennie and Gandy to stay on as depth. this offseason could improve both of our lines a great deal

WR Sam Aiken (RFA) LB Mario Haggan (RFA) LB Angelo Crowell (RFA) LB Josh Stamer (RFA) ***I'd keep all the above RFAs, they won't be too expensive and all of them can contribute*** CB Nate Clements -- if the money is OK, ow tag and trade (2nd or late 1st?) DE Ryan Denney (he shouldnt' be expensive, so yeah if he ain't too costly) DT Justin Bannan (gone) C Trey Teague (gone) LS Mike Schneck (who?) CB Kevin Thomas (might keep if we need him for dime or nickle, cheap) DT Ron Edwards (should sign cuz we need DTs, he should be cheap) QB Shane Matthews (whatever, min cap hit so keep him) the good thing about having lots of crappy players is that you have a replacement for when another crappy player leaves!! go TD!

we could get in next year playoffs will happen if we go 7-1 at home (which we could still do this year) and sneak in 3 on the road we are in. we could do that next year. we get TKO back (making our linebackers TKO, London, Crowell) we get edwards back, we draft a kick ass DT, we might sign another DT, we will get a FA O lineman or 2 (for christmass i'll take hutch and bentley) and we get everett. losing nate will hurt, but if we get someone of equal value to our team we will be fine, and we could put vincent back at corner (he is too small for safety) and let our young safeties who show promise to fight for a job. that is TE DT G C LT LB S upgraded with a possible decline in corner and JP, evans, roscoe, willis all get better I expect us to cut moulds, prolly milloy, lose TT, and renegotiate with M williams

that was a boom or bust draft and we got hurt in the first round. that happens. the thing that i don't like is the CRAP we picked up afterwords. 4 day one picks including the 4th and 36th overall and NONE of them start on our team. none of them even look like they will start on our team. in later rounds we got nothing too. i still think williams can be a good RT in the NFL, and will have to take a bit of a pay cut to be worth while, but even if that works out for the best the above draft was friggin horrible, especially since we could have gotten henderson and le'charles bently and really improved our team for years to come.

this board must have been totally friggin awesome before if it is that much worse now. other bills boards are REALLY bad. you have clowns with no idea pontificating over what player is better with what attitude when they don't even understand the basics of the game or who is playing it. here you get some stuff back and forth, but it is funny most of the time and there are plenty of great takes, wrong or not, the analysis is interesting. have posts been deleted or changed by mods here a lot? i really can't tell

mckinnie gets on his man well, he just doesn't do too much when he gets there (reminds me of fina a bit). has finess and instincts and all that, but no power. fina was light, but bryant is just fat and lazy. he did like 17 reps or so with 225 in the draft combine bench press, most guys over 215 who lift weights for a few years could do that if they spent a couple months emphasizing bench press for reps. he really doens't have the power to match his blocking tools IMO. williams is sort of the opposite, but i think he real problem is confidence

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true. he has lapses all the time (when you lose your speed and explosion, you have to be savey and gutty, moulds is neither). he shortarmed one deep pass early yesterday along the sidelines, it was infront and if he dove at it we have a 30+ yard gain. he gets no double coverage and has made one big play all year. i have been worried that we need to replace him with a big body, but he isn't getting jack done anyway. he is done here.

we need to get 1 or 2 new olinemen, renegotiate mike williams and have his start at RT. hutch and bently are FA this year, if we sign one or both and let TT walk AND draft a young guy we are well on our way. we need to draft high and often for DT, and sign ANY decent DT that has a chance to come our way. KC is a team with an outstanding O line that can't get it done. we need some guys on D too. can we draft a coach?

i think the following gets us the best team possible next year: WR-- get moulds to renegotiate BIG TIME (don't think he will) or just cut him kick reed in the balls for 20 straight minutes, then cut him (even if he is a FA) ** we might want to sign a big body WR or draft one, unless Aiken can do it OL: Teague is gone, buh bye Williams-- he renegotiates. we can't keep him at his current cost and i think he looks bad enough that he knows he won't get big cash in FA. he stays our RT and when healthy can play Sign Hutch/good rook G/somebody else for LG Sign Le'Charles for C (at about 4.5 bucks a year he will be barely more expensive than TT) draft an LT or 2 (at least 1 on day one) Villarial and Preston can fight for RG, villarial might get cut too. Dline: sam is gone edwards comes back we draft the best DT on the board, perhaps 2 (2 on day one might be a good idea) LB: posey is gone, spikes fletcher and crowell look very good. i'd get rid of london if we can get someone else to replace him tho Safety: keep vincent (he might be a better nickle, or to play in place of nate clements). cut milloy (wow, money for nothing. guy has heart but plays terribly) Corner: sign nate if he ain't too expensive (5 or 6 years 30-35 mill would be worth it fo sho), other wise tag and trade (prolly get a late first or early second). if he goes we need a day one pick at corner, we should have 5 day one picks if he goes, so DT,DT,LT,C,S/LB/WR would be a nice mix i don't think we need any other changes cutting a bunch of dudes (moulds, milloy, maybe London, Adams, letting TT walk) will open up enough cash to get in 2 solid ass interior linemen. if mike gets a paycut, we will all of a sudden have a good line! losing a couple guys on O in 03 hurt us bad, losing a couple guys on D this year hurt us bad, i think we can add a couple guys on each side and get better just as quickly. the biggest thing we have to do is get TC and grey out of here. MM is nothing special, but it is the schemes that hurt us the most.

i think it is simpler we aren't a super bowl team, so don't compare us to the top of the NFL. we are beginning to suck badly on D, and do suck badly on O. our special teams are very good, if not great. our special teams coach is a top guy, and was a top guy when he came here. now, the last time we had a GREAT o, it was 02 in 02 we got gilbride. gilbride is insane, but knows how to make an O produce (a la mike martz). he knows how to make a passing game run (houston, jags, buffalo, giants, he can make a big play O work well) we had bledsoe and the weapons, but a bad line and travis butter fingers. i'd say we were a bit better in 02 than in 04 in terms of personel (mcgahee and evans are top talents tho), but our QBs and Lines were about as bad the last time we had a good D was in 04, and it started in 03. leBeou came in in 03, and the D kinda rode that for 2 years we have had a drop off in talent this year in D, but we were down some guys in secondary last year and managed to show up. frankly, the answer is clear we are a bad team because we have 3rd rate coaching. everyone on our staff, except special teams, is cutting their teeth and sucking. of course, we also have a head coach who doesn't really know what he is doing either. if we had fox, or lewis, or capers, or anyone with some balls at HC, we'd have made it to the play offs last year and be doing better this year.

nate has been below par this year, and today he sucked bag however, it isn't just the way the play. grey has ALWAYS been running this D like a game of madden. he does the same thing all the time: picks a D he wants to run and just throws it out there. no adjustments, no wrinkles, no new developments. same crap all the time. we are predictable on D, we show exactly what we are going to before the snap, and other teams can adjust. last year and this year, like last week, when we had a decent game on D it was because guys just came up big with big plays. against nearly any team on the road this year, opponents make big plays and it is like they knew it would happen at the outset. no surprises, no struggel, just easy execution when ever they need. at first it was third down and redzone, where we are the worst in the NFL, but now it is every down. we are the worst in the NFL in run D, in redzone D, and near the bottom on third down. you don't get that bad in every category without terrible coaching. grey is an idiot, even tho for a couple seasons he has had some good toys to play with. on O we might be worse. i want to stab our coaches with a friggin ice pick

if our team really wants to make a move, we will cut or renegotiate: moulds milloy london mike williams sam adams and sign hutch AND bently in the offseason. we really need new coaches tho, god we have some bad people

moulds M williams S adams Vincent Milloy Clements Reed (HAHAHA) Kelsey London has had one good game all the above represent nearly half of our cap space and top picks, and non have done jack all year. the thing that kills me the most about today is that our secondary had zero positive plays all day. not one. a big part of it is they played gutless, but the other part is grey is a f@cking @sshole. he really sucks. clements and mularky sucks too. on player decisions i don't want to throw TD off a cliff, but based on the jokes of coaches we have had in here, he really needs to take a long walk of a short pier.

so the only road game we have been in after 5 min of the 2nd quarter has been new england. our crap line and losers like josh reed need to go, but to me it is about coaching. the players have no disciplin, confidence, or ability to execute. can we draft a coach and GM?

exactly. every damn game it is the same sh!!t. we do something all game and it is ez to exploit. today it is the seem. every play towards the seem is open, and in the middle of our crap zone they have a big TD and a large gain as well. we really have terrible management. from TD on down. I have not been anti TD thus far, but with the coaches he puts in place he just needs to go

i like play action. i just learned about it in a seminar (because as a bills fan i had no idea it existed). what you do is fake a run, but then pass the ball. it is particularly good for teams with 1 a run game 2 some pass pro problems 3 fast wrs who can get away for a big pass 4 a qb with a big arm who can hit a wide open wr deep now, i'm no coach, but i think plays that can work, and when they do go for big yards are good for a football team. i'm probably wrong tho, let's see more of swift footed kelly holcomb running those fake qb sneek option laterals to willis on 4th and 1!!

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there is something gay about stopping sex with a girl when you are one on one to bring in your 25 buddies so you can swim in each other's swamp. also, singing to each other about each other's wang is ghey as hell. do everett and roscoe share a room?