Sig1Hunter
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Geez... I'm not saying video games made him do it. Dude was evil. The evil came from a virulent stew of influences. Who's up for a good nature vs nurture debate?
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3 hours ago, Koko78 said:
Was it a decade of Mario, or all the glue and lead paint chips you ate?
A few decades ago, it was movies. Before that, comic books. Before that, penny dreadfuls.
It's all bullSchiff excuses to pass blame for someone being a whackjob who does something bad.
I'm not saying that it is 100 percent causal in these situations. I do believe it does play a role, and I believe the science backs that up. Not everyone who plays call of duty for 30 hours a week is going to shoot up a school. A very small percentage will. I'm willing to bet that most of these types of suspects have certain traits and habits that tend towards committing these acts, with one of them being immersed in the culture where the brain is desensitized to killing. I'm no expert, but I've done reading and have some relevant real life experience. I also stayed at a holiday inn express last night.
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12 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:
What things?
Memory loss
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11 minutes ago, Koko78 said:
'Ultra realistic' is a marketing term that companies have been using for over a decade to sell their games. In reality: no, graphics are not 'ultra realistic'.
Graphics in the latest games look darn impressive - and are improving with each passing year - but it's not the same thing as real life.
Semantics, I suppose. My point is still that the games are plenty realistic enough to damage the brains of adolescents that immerse themselves in it for hours, upon hours daily.
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On 2/24/2018 at 3:56 PM, Koko78 said:
Ultra realistic is a bit of a stretch.
At risk of running off on a tangent, I would ask if you have played any of the new generation of FPS video games (non sci fi shooters)? Companies spend a lot of money making them look as realistic as possible. Virtual reality is becoming more mainstream, so it's only going to get worse (or, better?). Pretty much the only thing that is missing is the smell of gunpowder and the iron in the blood. I'm sure smell-o-vision isn't too far off though.
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14 hours ago, Figster said:
Our president is asking school teachers to inflict death on another human being. Its not natural, but we would all like the school shooter shot.
Do you see anything wrong with this picture SigHunter?
Do I see anything wrong with the assertion that normal, well adjusted humans (not psychopaths) are averse to killing other humans? I'm not saying that when under threat, we can't/won't do it. Certain people still won't. Certain people are sheep, and are terrified to paralysis at the moment of truth. Check out this link for a fantastic, if not simplistic view, on this. https://www.killology.com/sheep-wolves-and-sheepdogs
You seem to be confusing what I was saying initially though. I'm talking about the school shooters in these situations, and the question was asked whether violent video games could play a part in getting them to that point. I'm not talking about humans not being able to defend themselves by killing another human that threatens them. Though, the averseness to it will show up in feelings of guilt and other similar emotions even when someone legally and morally takes another's life.
So, no. I don't necessarily see anything wrong with arming and training certain teachers. There are sheepdogs in all walks of life. There are teachers that are sheepdogs, and unfortunately some cops turn out to be sheep. A badge, or a gun doesn't make one a sheepdog.
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(Thanks for an easy post count bump)
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3 hours ago, Figster said:
As kids my older brother and I would set up little plastic army men on two sides and with BB guns blazing the battle would rage on until the last army man left standing. The loser ( me ) got to do all the chores that day. Much to my late dads dismay we would play cowboys and Indians on his pool table. Cowboys were solids, indians stripes. My older brother would take position on one side of the table, myself on the other and we would sling balls across the pool table at each other until the last ball left standing. The loser (me) sporting smashed fingers, did all the chores that day. Some of us played cops and robbers as kids with toy weapons. We grew up watching it in our drive ins and movie theatres, Sci Fi's, horror flicks, murder mysteries.
Deep down where nobody wants to go violence, death and destruction entertains us...
...and my older brother was lazy...
My active school shooter threat elimination suggestions: Advancement in technology on Metal detection devices and security drone usage armed with pepper spray/ tazzer capabilities.
I know it entertains us. Those examples of typical adolescent male game playing are much different than the repeated visual depiction of shooting a ultra realistic looking human in the head and watching his brain explode out of it...over and over and over. That densensitizes your brain to it. Its the same reason that when I do my yearly firearms qualifications they have us shooting a target that looks human, instead of a bullseye style target that they used to use back a couple decades ago. It is natural to have some sort of curiosity towards death and destruction. It isn't natural to want to be the one that inflicts that on another human being.
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9 hours ago, LA Grant said:
You're right! We should de-regulate traffic laws to match gun laws. Any 18 year old with a face who hasn't been to jail should be allowed on the road. And we shouldn't have police patrolling traffic until after there have been accidents. Just like guns, we should take as few preventative measures as possible.
The only thing that can stop a bad driver in a car is a good driver in a car. Right?
You moron.
Do you even have a point, or were you born obtuse?
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7 hours ago, LA Grant said:
Well, hold on here — why should a gun get locked up on a first offense? First time DUI offenders get leniency, and we don't take their cars away. I don't see why we should have to be so harsh on guns if they've only shot people ONCE.
So, you are saying we should ban cars? I mean, they are the weapon that a criminal uses to kill and maim innocent people by the tens of thousands every year, right? Think of the lives that will be saved.
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2 hours ago, TtownBillsFan said:
Honest question, and I'm going to ask and then have to run, my apologies, I'll be back to respond.
Question: Do violent video games play any part in the school shootings? I really don't know the answer now-adays (kitschy language intended).
I know it didn't matter to me personally, and I don't think games had any negative influence on my generation, short of 20 extra pounds from inactivity. But I grew up with Mario and Samus and Zelda. I still play now, but as an 'adult'. So, do the ultra-realistic, violent video games of today share any blame in teen/young-adult violence? I don't think so, but what say ya'll?
Play any part? Certainly they do. I suggest reading "On Killing" authored by Lt. Col. (Ret.) Dave Grossman. The vast majority of well adjusted humans have built into our brains safeguards that shield us from the desire to kill another human. Most species have an innate avoidance of killing their own kind. The nation's military understands this, and it has been documented over and over in wars of bygone eras. To combat this, the military has become extremely effective at indoctrinating recruits and retraining their brains to widdle down this safeguard. One of the most effective ways at retraining the brain is to view violent, realistic death... over and over and over.. with no negative consequence. Violent video games, and to a lesser extent violent movies and tv, do this to a "T". Players are actually rewarded with higher scores for killing other players, so not only is there no negative consequence for killing, but there is positive reinforcement. Video games have evolved so much in graphics and realism, that the human mind begins to be retrained. The line between what is real and what is fake begins to blur. For an adult, it isn't so much of a big deal. But, for a 12 year old boy that plays these games for 6 hours a day (or more), there is certainly an effect.
https://www.killology.com/teaching-kids-to-kill
He touches on a lot of stuff in the link above, but reading "On Killing" is highly recommended.
BTW, I enjoy my first person shooter games as much as the next guy and play an hour or three a week.
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What if the results for the Bengals and Ravens games were the same, but the order of the games played was different? Would you say that they relied upon the Bengals beating the Ravens in week 8 to "back into the playoffs"? Of course not. The standings are the same. The Bills made the playoffs.
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11 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:
at the risk of moving to PPP, of course, more crime is committed by the poorer sections of any society, same as it ever was.
But to think poor people, (and rich according to 33) drive drunk more than middle-class people is just absurd in my mind. Lots o poor people in "urban" lifestyles as you say do not even have a car. And they certainly tend to stay home , and or close to home, to get their drunk on. It's cheaper, and they ain't got lots of money, they poor after all!!!!
DUI is most often an issue associated with age, not race or income. Young people tend to be dumber when it comes to this stuff, I sure as hell know I was. Plenty of studies bear that out, and more than happy to link if requested.
DUI is an every man's crime. This is one of the reasons why it is litigated so hard. Lots of people that are otherwise law abiding citizens get busted for it. Those people are willing to dole out thousands upon thousands of dollars to get out of the case. High dollar lawyers that specialize in DUI Defense + inexperienced prosecutors fresh out of law school + cops making arrests on what they "believe" (and then being ineffective at testifying why they came to they conclusion) = lots of drunks beating their cases = lots of recidivism in the crime = people getting hurt and killed = politicians placing impotent laws in place that do little to help the problem.
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2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:
Sig, I know it looks like SOP for police to park diagonally now and interact from the passenger side now, any thoughts to having people get out of the vehicle on interstates and wait for ticket far away from potential danger of getting hit?
Parking diagonally has two benefits. It can help in the event of a rear end collision, but it also provides more cover for the officer in case of a sudden gun fight.
As far as getting people out of cars and having them wait a distance away from the roadway, it's an interesting thought. Personally, I don't think it will be a standard way of doing things because cops like to be able to keep an eye on their violators as best they can. If I get them out, and there is a guardrail, I have had them stand on the other side of the guardrail. If they stay in their car, it is a relatively safe place for them in the event of a collision, too.
The way cops handle their traffic stops are generally left up to the individual officer. My agency doesn't force us into one particular method. Every traffic stop is different.
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9 hours ago, THEHARDTRUTH said:
I take it your a police officer? If so thank you for your service. You guys are appreciated.
I make a living by finding and arresting impaired drivers, yes. The ones that frequently cuss me for arresting them, instead of the ones committing "real" crimes.
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1 hour ago, THEHARDTRUTH said:
Take a cab or call an Uber. 25 dollars for a ride beats a jail cell anytime.
The ironic part, is it looks like Jackson made this responsible choice... he is dead now due to someone else's selfishness and stupidity. Stories like this really suck. Unfortunately, they happen every night in every state, in many cities and towns. It reinforces my chosen career path, though. Having the opportunity to stop these nightly tragedies by putting these irresponsible idiots in jail is very satisfying.
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Official...i don't think you know what this word means.
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1) sounds like a handler needs to work on obedience and control.
2) a better story would have been if a dog dropped a Boston steamer at midfield, and Brady slipped in it and sprained an ankle.
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Haushka and Schmidt both had fantastic years. Coverage teams seemed good. KR team sucked.
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I wish these trolls would be lopped off at the base, so as to keep copycats away and the board clear of this garbage. If you title your thread by basically quoting a source, and you are determined to be a fraud, there should be some form of TSW death penalty. A public hanging would work..
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Just now, thenorthremembers said:
That bit wasn't in the article I read. Yes, I would say that makes a difference. The article I read said the "robbery" took place at a hotel.
Read the article posted by GBiD
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28 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
I am curious how you get arrested for accidentally grabbing a not packaged not for sale charger? If he took someone's charger by accident and is now being accused of burglary, I'd say the bigger issue is the waste of time and money worrying about this.
However, this was stolen from a store, which is not likely being it was 3am, then he isn't very smart.
Yeah, you can take a cell phone charger by threat from an uber driver and no one should worry about it. Seems legit.
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8 hours ago, jr1 said:
he was "shooting" on Mularkey
In his eye???
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Early discoverer that the Shake Weight style exercise can actually have health benefits. Began "trials" of his discovery in the early to mid 1970s.
Active shooter at Florida high school
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Yes, that's been a common denominator in mass shooting events in history. You sir, are a genius.