Superb Owl

The way I saw Earl Thomas firing up his teammates, reminded me of Jameis, uber magnetic enthusiastic. The nate hackett of players

Agree about Bridgewater. I think he will be a near consensus guy, because of his consistency, precision, and dedication. I even think the Browns may be blowing smoke about Johnny and have the above target. Jameis Winston I think will be 100% consensus.

Dead on. Who do you see as the nearest this year to can't-miss ?

I didn't watch the game but it sounds like what parcells and the giants did to us in SB 25

IMO, Luck, Bridgewater, and Winston are way above 50% so it's worth losing out for them if you're sure they will declare An important point that doesn't get mentioned... is after one year, if you see certain red flags, what certainty can you have that a QB will not pan out? I think it is high, like 80+%. So I think a good GM could move on after one year if he can stomach the 10-20% chance of being wrong. And the reward is getting rid of the 80+% chance you are wasting that second year.

With all their hot air about Manziel I would not be surprised if Bridgewater is their real target

Some opinions make you an idiot, like "IMO the earth is flat" while "IMO EJ is not good enough".. not really in that category You state as fact that his rookie season wasn't rough. Actually that's an opinion. IMO it was rough, not necessarily stats-wise, but in watching how hard he makes his receivers work, for one thing

The 1st 2 are debatable

I remember he came in w CJ and they were tight in training camp. He ran a little upright I think but I was surprised and a little pyssed he got cut

Close our eyes and hope harder, obviously

Bingo

That'll teach us!

Rofl yayay

I was expecting progress next year, but without pettine it feels like bets are off

Yolo - good info there. I still think Winston is close to Luck. - Fsu finished out of top 20, lost 11 players to Nfl and won NC the next year - From the first snap against Pitt there was a night and day diff on offense - same players on offense except Winston - Most points in a season in College football history - Last second drive for National championship, overcoming team being outcoached - ball placement, timing, leadership all elite w capital E I do want to look at ur or kirby's claim about progressions When they had luck what was Stanford's sched strength ?

These opponent D were ranked at least as high as Auburn (http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/ncaaf/stats/team-total-defense) Florida #10 Clemson #23 Vanderbilt #25 Maryland #32 Wake Forest #33 Syracuse #39 Pittsburgh #42 NC State #61 Duke #72 Miami #78 Boston College #85 Auburn #88

+2

Apparently Dupre was staying with Winston in Tallahassee on a recruiting visit

More WWF-ness seeems inevitable

Hey you even got the chant part Lose for future Wins, Tons! Lose for future Wins, Tons! Lose for future Wins, Tons! ... and some team is gonna be serious about it I bet

Lose for future Wins-tons Hey just brainstormin here

Jameis, are you telling me there's a chance??

Ok that reeks of awesomeness. The one person worth a ditka + a shanahan

Live press conference at 4:45pm http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/Live-Video-Live-from-Berea/b669f3ee-5129-488a-8504-5485f481af31

Sad to say, but I would rather they tank, than have another mediocre season. Especially when maybe the best QB prospect ever will come out, Jameis Winston.