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Don't worry about him. Any day now he'll realize the Bills season started up and he'll no longer be bored waiting for that.

That your point is that one idea is worse than the other idea because it is actually getting implemented in places while the other is still merely conjecture and overwhelmingly criticized was in fact missed. Apologies for that. But, again, wadr, THAT the 2nd idea has not been implemented in this country yet does NOT make it a better idea than the other one. Not sure how you're missing that point. They both are really bad ideas and are IMHO representative of the extreme ends of the authoritarianism spectrum. One designed intentionally or accidentally to increase the chaos the general citizenry has to encounter on an ordinary basis which is almost always necessarily required for a communistic revolution to eventually take hold and the other a step towards a fascist dystopia where undesirables are "humanely" permanently removed from society.

Probably not. It's a darn shame for those that are losing their jobs that he's no longer able to make that argument; he possibly could've been an advocate for them. But, have yet to see someone advocating for someone to be fired for speaking ill of Kirk. So far, have only seen people advocating for those CELEBRATING his death to face the consequences of public opinion for putting their own hatred out there for the world to so plainly see.

Wadr, not missing your point at all. You are saying one "humanely" rendered act of insanity is better than another act of insanity (or evilness or stupidity or whatever it was that describes that judge's decision to release him essentially on his own recognizance). Will not agree that it is better, again wadr. IMHO it's like being asked to choose whether it's better to die in a fiery autocrash or merely a severely violent autocrash. At the end of the consideration, neither is a good option.

Are you asking that PRIOR to him having taken innocent life? Because if you are, you are heading to a REALLY dark place. And that man that murdered the Ukrainian girl AFAIK had never murdered anyone prior to taking her innocent life. And, for clarity, WHY do those have to be the only 2 options? There are a LOT of stops on the continuum between release violent felons with little or nothing more than a slap on the wrist and executing lovingly those that are violent or those we deem inconvenient.

The appropriate thing to have done would've been to not release him into the general public for a 14th time. That horse is sadly out of the barn.

Even IF what he said was strictly directed at the violent homeless and mentally ill people, such as the man that slaughtered the Ukrainian refugee woman; that still is a horrible thought. To advocate for involuntary lethal injections for the mentally ill displays a level of compassion that is right there with those that are celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. If someone is mentally ill, they by definition aren't fully in control of their actions, and therefore should not be made to forfeit the rest of their natural life for whatever it is that person is accused of. The person on the left in that discussion suggested that these people need to be institutionalized if they are a danger to those around them (not the exact words, but the sentiment) AND they refuse treatments / medicines that can keep the true mental illness under check. That is a reasonable position to take. How to actually implement something like that would require far more discussion and nuance before implementing it; but it can be considered particularly if we're looking at stuff like schizophrenia to be the mental illness and not conservativism or liberalism to be the mental illness. Kilmeade apologized for the comments he made. Hopefully they were a misspeaking in the moment that went horribly awry; but even if they were, he should consider himself very fortunate if he still has a job in front of the camera.

Do not agree with everything Kirk has said through the years. Have not personally heard him say anything that would be actually hateful when taken in full context but am willing to believe there may be something in all his 1,000's of hours of speaking that comes across that way. If there is would disavow that. But there are myriad examples of what he's said NOT being hateful that have been described as such and would expect there's a pretty good likelihood that most, if not all, of what you are claiming as hate speech falls under that umbrella. But definitely do not support YOUR hate Mr. "Hoping you dullards lose 1-3 grandchildren to diseases we already defeated thru scientific research and medicine." Yeah, 'cause THAT isn't hateful at all, right? And your interaction that my original post was in reference to was what typically is generally considered doxxing and had nothing to do with what the 2 of you were discussing. But your advice to him that maybe HE should sit this one out is advice that you might consider heeding yourself, Mr. Hate.

When you can't rebut the argument, attack the one making the argument.

Interesting. For the 2nd time in just over a month have heard a very respected leadership expert speaking about how we are to be "salt and light." Haven't heard anyone focus on those in a very long time and then there they are in concert once again.

Well, if you go, I'll meet you there. Hoping we get a few others pop in, but if not, well, been a long time since weve had a chance to chat. Will be a good time either way.

You and 90% of everyone else. Went 15-1 last year in week 1 in the Pick 'Em. Wanna guess which was the only L & which was that week's suicide pick? D'oh!!!!

Thanks President Obama.

Would you be kind enough to expand upon this thought? Not sure what you mean by this.

Anyone planning on hitting up Nick's on Friday 9/5? If there is any interest, I should be able to get there this year. Once again won't be going to the opener but will be going to a home game a little later in the year. @Rock Pile @Just Jack @JÂy RÛßeÒ @aussiew @todd @R. Rich @jimmy10 @Dan Gross @holmz56 @judman @SuperBowlOrBust Any others? (for some reason @mead107 isn't tagging)