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Waste? Tebow is a gamer and not second tier, He'd be first QB off the board this year.
Possibly, but that's not saying much. And if Elway is already ready to give up on Tebow, that says more.
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If the Bills wanted Tebow they would have drafted him last year.
+1.
because the second tier QBs in this draft are better? (or first tier for that matter)
Why waste a 2nd round pick on Tebow or any 2nd tier QB?
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Looks like the Dols will have to sink or swim with Henne.
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Ouch, Louis too?
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Playing "very well" in the NFL is, well playing very well--regardless of experience. Everybody may "get better" with experience. Our WRs were not a problem last year.
You were clearly implying that Fitz and the Bills offense were held back by the inexperience of the young WRs, despite them having as good or better performances than the vets they replaced. I'll grant you there was some inconsistency to his game, but as you pointed out, aging future HOFers have the same problem.
Yes, I was correct that "someone had to catch all those passes"--although you insisted (incredibly) this wouldn't be the case for the better part of a year. I figured that, with a new caoching staff, there was simply no way the Bills would lose more games than with DJ--I predicted 8-8. I was way off. As for TO, it may be that I was about 12 games or so off of my "washed up prediction".
What's wrong with Hernandez?
Actually what I said was that the offense was held back by several factors, including, but not limited to, the WR's. You OTOH said "the offense only scored 1 PPG more than 2009, fire Modkins!"
The offense wasn't that good, therefore the WR's were part of the problem. There is talent there, so WR doesn't need to be addressed in the draft or FA, IMHO. But the unit needs to improve, as do other areas.
As for TO, what I said is that it's not as simple as saying "Miles Austin replaced TO, it's guaranteed that someone will replace him on the Bills," seeing as how no one replaced him on the 49'ers or Eagles for several years. Again I'm ecstatic that Stevie had a good season, whereas you were looking for every excuse in the book to explain how TO could be in the top-5 in every major receiving category until getting injured, even going so far as to claim that Palmer is a "Pro Bowl QB."
I have nothing against Hernandez. You should however, since he's a pot smoker. It's funny that you don't.
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Problems with reality?
Fitz is a pretty smart guy. Also, he started more games in 2009 than any other QB on the team. He certainly practiced with the 1st offense in preseason/camp. He missed 2 games as starter and then was the starter for the next 14 weeks of practice. Despite all of that, you are still claiming that the lack of a few reps in August and early September kept the Bills under 20 points a game? I guess you have to stick with that to convince yourself.
Green? Well, all rookies are "green" if you mean inexperienced. If you mean they underperformed because of this inexperience, then you are wrong.
Johnson played outstandingly well--especially considering his experience. When was the last time a Bills WR had that production? You're opinion is colored by your one year TO fetish. And Johnson didn't break out until almost November--so this had nothing to due with playing catch with Fitz in the summer--it was because of practice in weeks 3 to 7 and beyond.
Nelson played very well--didn't look to "green" to many posters here. He had about as many cathces and yards as Roscoe and more TDs in far fewer snaps. What was wrong with his play? How could he have been better? Face it, Johnson was an upgrade and when Nelson filled in for Roscoe (never much of a receiver), we didn't miss a beat.
Not sure about htis year's TE crop. NE got all the good ones last year.
You need more than smarts and the playbook. You need experience. You should know this, given the field you're in.
Yes, very good, "green" means inexperienced. Did you think I meant "unripe?"
Nelson played very well...for an undrafted rookie. It still doesn't mean he wasn't inexperienced and won't improve. Which is the point. Same goes for Jones and Roosevelt (there's also Easley, who didn't have a chance to show anything during the season). But no, let's fire Modkins because the offense scored 1 more PPG than 2009.
As for Stevie, his first game with Fitz saw him catch 3 passes for 66 yards and a TD. Extrapolating those yards over 16 games and you get what his season turned out to be. It took him until his 7th game to eclipse 100 yards, but again that goes back to the experience thing. And he was as inconsistent (i.e. having a few catches and yards for several games and then breaking out for a big game here and there) as you slammed TO for being last year.
Speaking of TO and my "fetish," oh, the irony! Suffice it to say that your claims of TO being "washed up" proved dead wrong, although you were correct that someone "had to catch all those passes." And yet, the Bills finished with a worse record that 2009. Go figure.
Among the other points I made was having Bell and Wood participating fully in off-season workouts, practices, and training camp, and the RT candidates on the roster will have a full off-season with the team. And no name for a rookie TE? You seemed to know all about Aaron Hernandez.
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Reaching for a QB would not be nearly as stupid as making a rookie cornerback the highest paid player on the team.
Seriously, I would take Newton and his issues in tow over Peterson any day. This franchise, in terms of their first round picks, is a joke. Peterson would render us to be a sick joke.
And btw, I would rather use the #3 on Mallett than a corner, rb, or wr.
I agree. That's why I'm advocating DL first, LB second.
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The bottom line is that QB is the least of the Bills' needs and reaching for a QB in this year's draft would be foolish. At best you take a guy in a later round and hope to develop him (along with Levi Brown). Fitz will get the year to prove himself.
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Right. The PPG average was skewed down by the 3 games Fitz didn't play. In those 3 we got 10, 7, and 3 I think. 6.67, less than a TD per game.
I forgot that Fitz didn't start the season ender. So the PPG were actually 19.9 PPG, almost 4 PPG more than 2009. Good call.
I'm not a believer that a guy who misses all snaps with the starters in camp and preseason (where no #1 QB gets all 1st team snaps anyway) is a significant deficit over the course of a remaining 15 week season of real football.
WR's were "green", huh? Evans and Roscoe (he played half the season) are getting a little long in the tooth and the "greenest" of the regular starters had 87 catches and 10 TDs--easily replacing last year's "leading receiver". A real threat at TE? Wow, there's an idea--good call.
You can believe what you want. As we've seen, it doesn't always mesh with reality. I'd rather see the QB get most of the reps in the off-/pre-season. I'm sure most people would as well. Just like I'd rather see the starting O-line be able to get the full off-/pre-season to work together. That way they get comfortable prior to the start of the season, not during it.
Parrish missed half the season? Who, pray tell, replaced him? How much did David Nelson play during the season? How many rookie WR's were starting by the end of the season? And yes, Johnson showed his greenness, despite his breakout season. No doubt a large part of that was getting reps with Fitz in training camp.
And what pot-smoking TE do you like this year?
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All in all, Fitz looked better, yet the offense scored very few points per game--only 1 more than last year, in fact. Maybe Fitz isn't the problem--maybe he needs a new OC. Mr. Modkin isn't cutting it.
With Fitz starting, the offense scored 19 PPG, which was almost a FG better than last year. And IIRC, they faced tougher defenses this year. Maybe a better OC is needed, but more likely, Fitz getting all the reps as the starter in the off-/pre-season, a healthy O-line with a decent RT, WR's who aren't as green, and a real threat at TE (the biggest question mark), will help.
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He's still the baddest man in the whole damn town.
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Come on! Carolina won't pick a QB unless they think we might? Every year this nonsense gets repeated. They will pick whoever they want--they are picking before us. If they don't want Newton, they won't give a crap who picks him or wants him. It's not like they have 2 top 10 picks each.
Re-read what I wrote. I said the Bills can't make the teams in front of them take a player they didn't like, but that Carolina and Denver seemed to like Newton and/or Gabbert (that could be a smokescreen on their part as well, I don't know). The point was that all the talk pre-draft can't be believed, hence the Bills talking-up Newton and inviting him to Buffalo is in all likelihood a smokescreen.
But if Carolina really likes him and thinks they can trade down to get him, seeing that the Bills are interested will make them think twice about doing it. Similarly another team may try to trade-up into the 2nd spot to take him.
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Why doesn't Erik hit-up uncle Danny for some rehab money?
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Maybe James Hardy can lend him some cash.
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Nix just said at the dinner that 90% of what you hear about the draft is lies and its ok to lie during draft time. So now what do you think?
You beat me to it.
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Yeah...because the kid's entitled to have his demands met.
No, he's not entitled to anything. But Garten is also not entitled to escape public scorn and ridicule, and possible financial repercussions.
And really, what would it have "cost" her? She easily could have made a show out of it.
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After all the bad pub, FatAss finally agreed to meet the 6-year old boy. That's a surprise!
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This is absolutely correct. That's why the gamble on the part of the owners to force this work stoppage was so silly. Why would they risk letting a federal judge determine how their league is run? It was a silly risk to take given how profitable the league has been.
I know your issues are different and involve small market clubs being able to compete, but at the end of the day the owners have to be a ball of nerves. The owners are letting simple, old fashioned greed force them to play a very dangerous and foolish game. Still, no one, wants the fate of the league to be determined by a judge.
That's not exactly true. Players wouldn't be UFA's until they have been in the league for 6 years. Also there is no salary cap minimum.
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The trick is finding the drop-dead gorgeous ones who can't stand to look at themselves in the mirror. Although they have other issues beyond paying the bill.
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There goes the neighborhood.
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A team with the first pick and the team with the 2nd pick are not going to change their pick because of who the team with the 3rd pick likes. Whoever they dont pick will 100% be gone before they pick again in the 2nd, so they dont care who the 4 win Bills think is the guy for them. I mean do you really think the Panters scouts and staff are going "I dont know about this kid Newton, but hey the 4 win Bills who have failed miserably to replace Kelly with blunders like trading up for JP love him, so they must know something we dont...so maybe we should take this Newton kid."
Scouts, coaches, and the teams FO's could care less about what the so called draft expersts say, what other teams say, etc. In the end, they just draft the guy they feel is the best fit for their team. So the idea that Buffalo would risk shaking the confidence of Fitz to try and influence Carolina to take a QB is a bit far fetched dont you think? Especially at the great lengths of how they are doing it...not just saying they are interested in a QB, but spending a lot time with them and going to great lengths to evaluate them.
True, teams rely mostly on themselves. But they absolutely do pay attention to what others are doing. This in inarguable. It's why you see a run on certain positions or someone taking a player higher than they reasonably should have (ahem).
Now the Bills can't make the Panthers or Broncos like Newton or Gabbert, but if there's interest, and there seems to be on their part, they can make them think twice about whether it's a good idea to pass on them. And it's not like they're so great at identifying QB's themselves.
As for shaking Fitz' confidence, Fitz knows it's a business, and he's had his confidence shaken many times, whether it's the Bungles going back to Palmer or the Bills going with Edwards at the beginning of last year.
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I think if they believed in Fitz as much as they say they wouldn't be taking all these QBs out to dinner and attending their Pro Days. I think they are trying to grease the skids in case they totally screw up the first pick like they did last season, in case they determine we need another running back this year. Fitz was a pleasant surprise last year, but anyone who knows even a slight little bit about football knows he isn't the answer.
It's all a smokescreen. The more they talk-up taking Newton or Gabbert at #3 because they think they're "franchise QB's," the greater the chance that both teams in front of them (and both of them need a QB) take them and leave them with who they really want. But without knowing their exact thinking, we'll have to wait until the draft.
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Now it's "forget the percentage"? I bet it is!
But the percentage is what the owners now think poses the risk they no longer want to bear alone.
The "total player expenditures" were $140 million higher in 04 than 05. They spiked in 06 (although since very few players renegotiated/resigned in 06, it's not clear where these costs came from--the numbers you provided were far in excess of the cap for each year for many teams). If the costs went up by an "extra" $283 million from 05 to 06, the total expenditures dropped by $300 million in 07. By 09, they had returned to just over the 06 level again.
Forget the "the players didn't get all 59.5% of total revenues." They never did and never will get all of the potential money under the cap. And yes, the percentage is what the owners think pose a threat, as I've been telling you. They gave the players too high an increase in 2006 and are now paying the price. IOW, it was a bad deal.
BTW, total player expenditures actually increased by $24M between 2006 and 2007, but accounted for 92.5% of the available cap room. However between 2007 and 2008, expenditures rose by $397M. 2009 (and I suspect 2010) showed a decrease, presumably as teams buckled-down after opting-out of the CBA and preparing themselves for a fight.
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The parents of the classmates should be thrilled that their kids are being forced to wash their hands and mouths. I doubt they do it otherwise.
Tebow
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There is still zero evidence for this claim. And if the Bills wanted him, Elway would no doubt trade him for a 2nd round pick. He'd probably even take any pick at this point.