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  1. "Can the Patriots really afford to keep Seymour, Wilfork and Ty Warren?"

     

    "Depending on the source, the Patriots are anywhere between $5 and 5.8 million under the cap for 2009. So they probably can't afford to give Wilfork the raise he's looking for in 2009. In reality, teams can find ways around the cap, and if the Pats want to extend Wilfork, they can find a way to do it. Adalius Thomas will cost the Patriots $13.2 million in cap money this season. You'd have to think they'd go to him first if they needed to find a player to restructure. James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather will each cost the team more than $3 million in cap dollars. Mike Wright will cost the team nearly $2.5 million. So there's some wiggle room if the Patriots need it. The bottom line: Ty Warren is staying through 2013, and he's counted as $10.5 million against the cap in 2009. Richard Seymour and Vince Wilfork will be without contracts following this season. If I were to guess, I'd say there's a zero percent chance both return, a 20 percent chance only Seymour returns (if Wilfork prices himself out), a 30 percent chance only Wilfork returns (if Seymour wants another payday), and a 50 percent chance neither return (if they both follow the dollars)."

     

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    Tough challenge there, Doc. Took me nearly three minutes.

     

    To repeat the important bit from above: "...I'd say there's a zero percent chance both return..."

    Let me repeat another important bit from above: "If if had to guess..."

     

    As of right now, there is no cap for 2010. So any talk of "affording" a player is moot. But the bottom line is, if the Patriots wanted to keep Seymour, they would have.

     

    And judging by the volume of your posts regarding Peters, I can only assume you're related to him somehow. I don't know anyone else that would go to such lengths to defend a guy who put the Bills in a horrible position, just because he didn't get paid $10M/year as soon as he demanded it. I too thought the Bills should have paid him last year, but ONLY after showing up first, given the way his 2007 season ended (with Umenyiora causing him to shred his groin). And his play in 2008 was poor and didn't help the Bills win many games, while his salary would have eaten-up 10% of the cap.

  2. There is no 2010 salary cap AS OF NOW!!! However, there is every chance in the world that by the time the season starts there will indeed be a salary cap. And certainly down the road.

     

    Yeah, it definitely hurt them in the short-term. But again, they didn't have the money to sign both guys.

    Link (apparently that's your convenient response for everything else for which you don't have an answer). Preferrably one that says how much the Patriots have allocated for the 2010 season, regardless of the league's cap situation.

  3. I think Rodney passed that info on to Junior and some of the other guys over at Gillette--you know the team full of "over the hill vets" who just seem to crank it up a notch after arriving in Cheatsville. The only reason Rodney was caught was he was dumb enough to use his own name and address when ordering the stuff. How many of his old teammates were smart enough not to do that--I'm wagering a whole bunch of them myself.....

    Come on. He only ordered it that one time and got caught before the shipment could arrive. :censored:

  4. Not to me. Dannyboy has never let money stop him, but "continuity" be damned, there's a logical case to be made that Jauron wouldn't have lasted beyond the end of last season without that supersecret ( :unsure: ) contract extension.

    Oh, I agree that Jauron wouldn't have been kept after last season had it not been for the extension. But as for firing him right now, it really serves no purpose since there's no one worthy of being a head coach. The same could be said for the Titans, Panthers, Raiders, etc., who all want to/will fire their HC's after the season is over.

  5. Zorn/Snyder has nothing to do with the situation in Buffalo.

    Okay, let's try this another way. Snyder spends money like water, unlike Ralph. Zorn, like Jauron, should have been fired by now. Therefore the decision by Snyder NOT to fire Zorn yet is neither a financial NOR a football decision. So it must be something else. And it's reasonable to say that the same applies in Ralph's case.

  6. I'll be honest -- I raised an eyebrow when he said that, because I'm not sure I've seen any prevailing sentiment like that here. Since he's back in Buffalo, maybe his data sample is the people he's talking to on the street up there, not TSW ... but I can't think of anyone I know who's saying "go ahead and trade him." As some have noted, the possibility that he still might make some plays is one of very few reasons to watch this team right now...

    I didn't hear the interview, but it sounds like Tim pulled a lot of this stuff out of his backside. As I alluded to in my earlier post, Snyder hasn't fired Jim Zorn yet either, and that's clearly not a money issue. And the "most people want [TO] traded" is ridiculous.

  7. Wow. You must be joking!

     

    TO has screwed his own career many times over. He should be the wealthiest receiver to ever have played the game. He was dumped by his last two teams before DJ picked him out of the trash bin.

     

    Come on!

     

    You agree that DJ ruined TO's career?? That's crazy.

     

    TO is responsible for ending up in Buffalo. Jerry Jones should have been paying TO whatever TO wanted right about now. How can you feel sorry for this guy. It's not by chance that he fell this far to end up here.

     

    Save your pity for someone worthy of it. Just pretend TO plays for Jets/pats/Fins and you can go back to thinking he was a tool, as you probably did before he got here.

    You might want to look into how much money TO has been paid over his career, and especially his 3 years with the Cowboys. But the guy who should be the highest-paid WR, theoretically, is Randy Moss. And Moss will probably be looking for his 4th team after this season is over.

     

    Look, the Bills should have never resigned DJ-or even considered it before the end of last season. He's a career awful HC in the NFL.

     

    But TO made his bed. Blaming his troubles (again, he was dumped by two teams in a row) or the "kind of ridiculous media attention he got" on the press is pure revisional history. Go back and review his behavior towards previous teams, ownership, teammates and fans in 4 cities and tell me of another player who has such a history. Tell me also, with so many documented episodes, which events were so "blown out of proportion" as to render his behavior acceptable?

     

    Anyway, I would not deny he is amongst the greatest WRs of all time. But time is clearly passing him by. If he was going after the few passes that come his way like Marshall, Fitzgerald and Johnson do now, I would be more inclined to agree with you. Watch him a little more closely during the game.

     

    As for pity......OK, maybe I can muster a bit. It is a truly pitiful that one of the best at his position would, by his own behavioral actions, find himself in a position where he is wanted only by one of the worst team in the league-- wehre the sun will set on his career.

    Speaking of money, TO's situation with the Eagles was mostly about his contract. And his problems with the Cowboys were ALL created by the media. That meeting you heard about with Jason Garrett was a private meeting, behind closed doors, yet it got out into the open. But look at how great the Cowboys are without him, and what a leader Romo has become! :unsure:

  8. Their cap status is that they couldn't afford both Seymour and Wilfork. It was blindingly obvious and while Pats* fans didn't expect the trade to happen the way it did, they also didn't expect to keep them both.

     

    So what you're trying to tell me is that even when you always give 100% on the field and always show up to off-season activities, teams don't necessarily feel any necessity to pay you what you're worth, right? That they'll trade you in a heartbeat to one of the worst teams in the league, right, without a thought. Yup, you're right on. Which is why guys, especially guys who are being financially reamed, sometimes hold out.

     

    And by the way, Seymour was being paid very well. Unlike Peters, Seymour wasn't recieving the lowest salary of all 32 starters at his position. Peters had a lot more to be angry about than Seymour. And look what showing up got Seymour.

    Um, no. The Patriots have all the cap room in the world because in 2010, currently, there is no salary cap. They made a decision that Seymour wanted too much money and would be a problem (even though he's never pulled anything close to what Peters did), so they traded him. And it definitely hurt them in the short-term.

  9. The Pats* didn't get rid of Seymour as a disciplinary issue or for "contract issues". They did it because they simply don't have the money to pay him. They did it because there is no way they could afford both Seymour and Wilfork. They will pay Wilfork a boatload of money.

     

    The Bills had plenty of money to pay Peters.

    The Pats have the money. They just didn't want to spend it on him given his age and figured they'd get something instead of losing him for nothing.

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