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  1. In an article this morning, reporting from camp, Chuck Pollock said he's actually 20 pounds less than his listed weight, which would put him at 375. Last I heard him talk a few weeks ago, he said 385.

    Saw that. For the time being, I'll go with Chuck Pollock, who must have talked with someone who knows. And again, no one knows what Jasper's ideal playing weight is.

  2. Thought I was going to read an interesting thread.Then I saw who wrote the article and the reaction in me was NEXT!!!

    What a waste he is.

    I hear you. I saw the article linked on the home page, clicked on it and saw "Jerry Sullivan," and immediately closed it.

  3. My sleeper for this year: Nix. Lots of opportunities to improve this team with quality free agents at positions of real need and NOTHING was done other than merely replacing the Poz. No reason to expect any better than 4-12 next year.

    No reason to watch the season or post here anymore then, right?

  4. Good question. At one time in the not so distant past a 300lb O-lineman was unusual. Now it's basically the standard.

    Good point.

    Where are you guys getting 390 from? Last time I checked, he was around 370 or so.

    He's listed at 394# in the training camp guide.

  5. At Indy on the turf, you correct. But his 4.45 was not at Indy and likely was on a track. Every WR worth his weight in King Midas's Gold should be able to run sub 4.4 on their pro day.

    You can definitely shave-off a few hundredths of a second at your Pro Day. But I'll still say that 4.45 is fast, especially for a 6'1" 213# receiver.

  6. If Micheal "Man Mountian" Jasper is capable of throwing guys around and driving the line of scrimmage back I would much rather see him listed on the team 3rd string anywhere than go to the practice squad. Given his ridiculous athleticism for a man of his ridiculous size he could be one of those specialty players. Short yardage on defense or even offense for the matter. Could you see this guy on field goal attempts basically falling over and taking out the center of the opposing line allowing all manner of Bills to get a hand up to block a kick?

     

    I'm not saying this guy is going to know it all or be a complete technician and student of the game yet but sometimes in some situations you basically just have to kill the guy in front of you and drive him back to his home stadium.

    You can't expose this guy to the waiver wire. While he may have gone unnoticed (or more precisely ignored after scouts saw his weight) at tiny Bethel college, they know who he is now.

  7. His career best in sacks was 4. Not to say what you said has no merit, but that is not great for someone who plays nearly every down and blitzed a TON. He also had NO Forced Fumbles, NO INT, and NO Fumbles Recovered. Yeah he had 100 tackles which is great, but in the 3-4 you need more production out of your LBers. Just sayin.

     

    I am not trying to rain on your parade or tell you to not be excited, I just paid VERY close attention to what he does because I love him as a player. He is just undersized as an ILB and gets tossed around on the inside in the 3-4.

    I'm not saying Barnett is as good as Willis or Lewis, but he's an upgrade over Poz, health-willing (not that Poz was any sort of ironman himself). As for the stats, 4 sacks is about what the aforementioned Willis and Lewis average, but I'll grant you that the lack of INT's or FF's isn't ideal.

  8. Hey guys, not sure if anyone remembers me but I am a Packer fan that has posted on here in the past. You may remember I tried to trade you Barnett.... :thumbsup:

     

    Just wanted to give you a little bit of an idea of what you get when you have Nick Barnett on your team:

     

    Barnett was my favorite player for the Packers for years. I wanted him when we drafted him from Oregon State, and was jumping for joy when we drafted him. I even went to the point of calling the Packers Pro Shop and having them stitch me an authentic Barnett jersey before they made them. So here is a little bit from my perspective of having NB for the last 8 years:

     

    1- Nick stepped in day 1 and started as our MLB when we were in the 4-3. He did incredibly well racking up 112 tackles and 2 sacks and 3 INT. He had won over the fans.

    2- Nick has been consistent in his ability to get across both sidelines. He has speed and tracks the ball down.

    3- Nick is better suited for a 4-3 than a 3-4. In the 4-3 when we ran it, we filtered everything through him, this explains the tackles being high. Since switching to the 3-4 he has not been quite as effective.

    4- I believe NB is an OUTSIDE 3-4 LB. Yes, outside. He doesn't quite have the size to be an ILB in the system. He has the speed to blitz from the outside and force pressure but refuses to play the position. We talked to him about playing outside but he was not having it. I wanted to have Clay Matthews, AJ Hawk, Desmond Bishop, and Nick Barnett as our LB's. Get all of your best players on the field, you know? He threw a fit about it.

    5- You do not get the turnovers from NB that you need out of you LBers. Turnovers or big plays for that matter. In 8 years, Barnett forced 9 INT and forced 2 fumbles. He also racked up 15.5 sacks. Yeah, that adds up to 1 pick a year, .25 FF a year, and just under 2 sacks a year.

    6- You get a leader in the locker room. He is an emotional leader and is VERY vocal. This is something you cannot instill in someone.

    7- You get a distraction. NB is a good guy but the man causes you headaches. It may be all fine and glory at the beginning, but sooner or later he starts to cause promlems (Remember the team picture, he wouldn't go to the team directly, he went out to the media).

    8- You get Twitter posts. I love twitter, but Barnett tweets for a living. And he doesn't filter what he tweets. If he doesn't like something coach said or what another player did, he tells his thousands of followers about it. He stirs the pot.

    9- You get a player who has been injured as of late. NB was the model of consistency in his first 5 years. He only missed 1 game in that time. He has been injured twice in the last 2 years with season ending injuries. He played in 4 games last year and in 9 games 3 years ago. I hope for your sake his body is ready to be up to the challenge. He is 30, so hopefully he can have a few more productive years.

    10- You get a character. There is always something interesting going on when he is on your team. He is always talking, and always doing something goofy. He makes a splash when he enters the stadium during announcements.

    11- I wanted to keep it to 10, but had to add this as well. I know Buffalo is a smaller market like GB. I live in GB, so I wanted to let you know of this. Barnett not only plays for your team, but he brings his posse with him. Yeah I said posse. HAHA. He is kind of ghetto if you know what I mean and all the dudes hang out in the bars all the time so some of you who live in the area may get to talk to him. He started a club called 5-6 when he was here that went under. It had a horrible reputation for having problems with the law and drugs all over the place. Hope that doesn't happen in Buffalo.

     

    So just some things for you just in case you didn't know a ton about Barnett. I still like the guy and wanted to keep him around on the Packers regardless of his negatives. His leadership is great. You may get sick of the Samurai celebration. He does it even when you are losing when he makes a big play. I defended it for years when my buddies would get pissed. So I hope you have great luck with him and have a great season. You have made some moves that immediately make you better IMO.

     

    Let me have it!

    The Bills will play both 4-3 and 3-4, so having a versatile guy like NB will be good. As for being better in the 4-3 versus the 3-4, kind of hard to say. The Packers went to a 3-4 defense 2 years ago, and despite having another ILB working with him, he posted fairly similar tackle numbers, had a career-best in sacks, and tied his career best in PD's. This happened a year after an ACL injury (that he had a good season in 2009 is good to know, since it means be recovered from that injury). Last year he played in just 4 games before suffering a wrist injury, which has healed and isn't nearly as much of a concern as an ACL. Whether he's breaking down is anyone's guess. However he only played 4 games last year, which means he had longer to recover.

     

    As for the other stuff, it will be interesting to see how he acts. Can't predict that one.

  9. This thread is retarded. You guys are jumping from Roger Daltrey and Bono to Bon Jovi and farm subsidies like you're making some profound statement about the world. Who the !@#$ cares what these people think, say or do? Outside of entertainment, they and their opinions are all meaningless.

    Um, yeah, that's what I said. :rolleyes:

     

    What I'm more talking about is what they're doing, in spite of what they're saying.

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