daquixers_is_back

He is another Tripplet

Well yeah when you change the amount of games then your going to get different results!!!

How many CB's win a game?? Give me a break ... once in a great while and it usually comes off of a tipped ball. Most of the time they may seal a game ... but they dont usually win a game. Look at page 2 or 3 .... CB's cover sides ... thats football in most schemes. Even in Madden (the football game). Its pretty rare that a CB has an assignment to cover a specific receiver ... they usually cover sides. Thus why he was covering Williams on about 5-6 plays and not the rest.

You see people think that I love Nate Clements or something. THAT IS NOT IT! I just think its dumb to let a solid player go. Period.

Clements for McFarland is not a fair trade IMO.

Good post.

There is an entire thread devoted to it below somewhere ... Fox reported earlier that both teams were interested in trading but they werent related

To be honest im not sure ... they didnt evaluate ... it was on Fox's pregame. They said something like that Clements will be one of the best, if not the best, free agent out there.

Think about this though. A lot of these CB's INT's are coming off of easy tips that they catch. Their not all great INT's. Their just lucky. Chris McAlister only has 3 INT's in his last 21 games. Shawn Springs use to be considered one of the best CB's in the game and he has 1 INT in the past 15 games. Patrick Surtain only has 1 INT in his last 49 games Samari Rolle only has 3 INT in his last 32 games Why didnt we make a play for Ty Law in the off-season? Heck why did the Jets let him go? He had 10 INT's last year and 2 INT's in 5 games this year ..

If Schobel was stopping the run 97% of the time and missed a few tackles here and there then no i wouldnt mind it at all ... the fact is that (go watch a Bills game) Clements keeps his receiver in check most of the game. He may miss a tackle here or there or give up a catch here or there but he is mostly solid. He is not a maybe player. NFL teams dont pay top dollar for maybe players ... THINK ABOUT THIS --> OTHER TEAMS WANT CLEMENTS FOR A REASON!!!

What? If Williams was shut down we win the game ...

The problem is that everytime we give up someone good because of money to get 2 other "maybe" players were like a turnstile ... we just keep revolving year after year ... we need good players to build our team around.

Agreed. I completely understand what your saying and in certain circumstances you would be right. Such as if this was a decent team. But were rebuilding, and when you rebuild you want some solid players to build around. So why let him go and get a couple "could be" good players when you can lock up a sure-fire solid player? Its all about the situation your in.

If you can only get one hand on the ball than thats better than nothing ... watch the Steelers play. They do it ALL THE TIME. One DB tips the ball and another catches it.

Well I have made all my points. I cant make you change your mind so im not going to try. Bills fans always think we know so much more than the experts ... etc ... whatever. Every fan goes through this ... they all wear these rose-colored-glasses that can only allow them to see the bad. They can never see the good stuff that the OTHER teams who are going to sign him do. Do you think those other teams are licking their chops and ready to give him the money he wants because they agree with you and he is just average. Well whatever. Alright. I marked it down as a guarantee from you. We will revisit this thread after next weeks game.

Because he made an interception? Give me a break. Nate has tipped the ball into the air before and our our DB's cant catch it.

Are you serious? Dude, the best CB's are the one's who arent thrown to more than 3-5 times a game. The reason they only threw 5 balls at him is probably because he was blanketing his receiver. I dont know because I wasnt at the game, but thats common sense.

I encourage everyone to do this before they critisize a Bills player ... watching a game on TV is extremely hard to judge a players performance. When you see the game you can see the WR's route, them seperating, the DB's coverage play after play and your not influenced by the media.

OK so he had 2 catches ... now see how many Bailey gives up tonight. I bet he gives up 2 or more.

Actually no ... I dont think them being winless made them beat us by 3

The funny part is that you actually thought you would fool us. Thank-fully I have TIVO also ... 1st series: Clements stuck with him after the fake, but was pushed off before Williams made the catch. Many posters on this board wanted a penalty on Williams on that play. 2nd Q 4th and 5th series: THEY ARE PLAYING IN ZONE COVERAGE! This is also the drive close to where Furrey split the zone and caught a pass within 2 minutes left and then Williams split the zone and caught the TD pass. Then Clements makes some tackles (as you showed) and covers his receiver allowing an underthrown pass to be INT'ed by KO ... As I said .. he gave up maybe 2 passes. Solid game.

I thought it was pretty conclusive ...

If you get 2 unsportsmanlike conducts in 1 football game are you ejected?

Send the tickets my way then.

Why are you breaking your post into parts like a teenage poet? Nate will take less than 10 ... I bet he will take around 6-8 ... Pro-Bowl is a popularity thing. Nothing more. Moorman deserved to be in for years, McGee ... etc Ruben Brown made it for years and he wasnt as good as some other players.