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Why? He hasn't shown any ball skills. The guy isn't a bad player...he's a decent starter in the NFL. But he just doesn't make enough plays to justify his draft slotting or his contract. And the lack of a pass rush excuse doesn't make any sense- there are other teams with unknowns at safety in the conference that have had feeble pass rushes and still managed to make more plays than Whitner. Nduke in Cincinnati has 5 sacks, 4 picks, a forced fumble, and 10 passes defensed in 2 seasons. Jones in Cleveland has 1 sack, 13 picks, 2 forced fumbles, and 29 passes defensed in 3 seasons. Page in Kansas City has 1 sack, 10 INTs, 3 forced fumbles, and 25 passes defensed in 3 seasons. Pollard in Kansas City has 1 sack, 3 INTs, 3 forced fumbles, 8 passes defensed and a safety in 2 seasons starting. Whitner? In 3 seasons...1 sack, 2 picks, 2 forced fumbles, 7 PDs. The above players always have lousy pass rushes too. Whitner's not the biggest problem with the team, but I think a ton of people defend him to no end because they happened to buy his jersey after he was drafted.

The transition tag is a joke...I think most NFL clubs don't even consider it an option anymore after the Hutchison/Burleson debacle of a couple years back.

I say pay Greer. McGee is a free agent next year, he won't be retained in my opinion because it will be heading into an uncapped year. Our cash to cap thing won't be able to compete with somebody like Washington offering him a 5 year/30 million dollar deal with 20 million coming in the first year (or something to that effect). Greer is bigger, he's younger, and he seems to make more plays. I'm not going to say he's better than McGee, but the two are very close. Greer can be retained for cheaper, and in 2 or 3 years will likely be a better player than McGee anyway.

Don't know this board well enough to know if the OP is being sarcastic, but I sure hope he is. Worse numbers in 15 games starting this season than DiGiorgio had in basically 13+ games last year. Woo hoo, God Bless the Great White Hope.

I think it gets a little blown out of proportion because it was the first 4 weeks, against poor teams. Houston has 2 seperate winning streaks this year of 4 games, and 3 games. They had a 4-0 stretch too, and they're sitting in the exact same spot in the standings.

Yeah, because most of them were inherited. The Wilson's don't have any interest in running the team. It's not very complicated.

That's a great post...great receivers use the middle of the field too. They'll run an occasional slant or drag to Evans, but it's very rare, disturbingly rare. And it's not the coaching...he's had 3 OC's in his time in Buffalo, and he's never been a presence over the middle. That's him, not coaching.

You can't be serious. I do think Denney is better than Kelsay, though. I guess the bottom line is that these aren't the 3 DEs you want heading into the future, for a lot of reasons.

Because Ralph Wilson is 90. That's why. Economically, there are teams in worse shape than Buffalo- the Jaguars and Vikings to name a couple.

Wasn't the general line before the season about how Stroud was going to make our defensive ends look better by eating up potential double teams on the inside? That hasn't happened.

I really have no problem whatsoever with Schonert. I didn't even hate the pass call in the Jets game that Losman blew. It's not Schonert's fault that the line is pretty weak in terms of run blocking, it's not Schonert's fault that Evans A) has to reliable complimentary receiver and B) is pretty limited himself as far as what he's able to do on the field. One thing that I don't really understand is the disappearance of the screen pass from the offense. The first month or so they were executing it very well...then they just kind of stopped doing it.

It's crap. It's an utter cop-out, and lame ass excuse. The Bills can compete, they're just mismanaged. Indianapolis has done just fine over the years. So have Carolina, Pittsburgh, Tennessee, Jacksonville, and Kansas City (until the last couple of years). Green Bay has always been competitive since free agency and the salary cap came to be. New Orleans made the NFC Championship game a couple of years ago, didn't they? None of those are even in the top half of the NFL in terms of market size. Meanwhile, some teams in major markets suck- Houston can't get their sh-- together, Atlanta and Detroit have by and large been joke franchises this decade, Arizona is just now becoming decent, both Bay Area teams suck pretty consistently, and the Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in how long? It's management, not economics.

Very surprised that Dockery is only 28. I would have pegged him at 31 or 32...

That's true to an extent...but it's also a myth to some degree. Nobody expected Hardy to be a star this year, but SOME production would have been nice. Moulds did contribute as a rookie as a kick returner, and quite a bit on end arounds and reverses. He also put up better, while still modest, receiving numbers than Hardy. Peerless Price had 31 catches and 3 TDs as a rookie. Lee Evans had 800+ yards and 9 scores. Josh Reed managed to grab 37 balls. Andre Reed had 600+ yards and 4 scores. Don Beebe had 300+ yards Bucky Brooks and Roscoe Parrish did nothing as rookies...and never panned out as receivers afterward either.

Research his stats in cold weather games? OK...here are his performances in "cold weather" cities since he came into the league. 12/12/04 at Green Bay- 1 catch, 13 yards 1/2/05 at Tennessee- 4 catches, 62 yards, TD 12/11/05 at Green Bay- 4 catches, 53 yards, TD 1/1/06 at Pittsburgh- 3 catches, 31 yards, TD 12/3/06 at New England- 3 catches, 50 yards 12/17/06 at Green Bay- 1 catch, 11 yards 11/9/08 at Giants- 1 catch, 28 yards 11/16/08 at Redskins- 3 catches, 36 yards 12/7/08 at Steelers- 2 catches, 16 yards I don't even know if these games were cold weather...but those were road games he's played in November-January in his career in cities where it occasionally gets a little chilly. Not exactly impressive numbers.

I didn't say anything about the front office. Do you think he knows who Sean Kugler or Eric Studesville are? Maybe he does...but I wouldn't put money on it.

Doubt it. I would guess Ralph couldn't even tell you the names of more than 2 or 3 people on his teams' coaching staff.

Don't care about him complaining about the weather...I just wish the guy could call a Packers game without mentioning Brett Favre every other sentence. Watch the games, Tony...Green Bay is 5-10 with Rodgers, but I think they'd be 3-12 or 4-11 with Favre. Rodgers is better...

They couldn't have challenged it even had they wanted to. If it was 3rd down instead of 4th the booth would have reviewed it though. Doesn't really matter, it was all cosmetic.

Great guy, but it's a business. When he gets canned I don't think he deserves to be mocked like Williams and Mularkey have been. You can't argue that his record is good, but getting to 7-9 with the garbage team he had in 2006 and the injury-riddled group he had in 2007 was actually pretty damn impressive. That being said, there are coaches that can get you to a certain level and no higher...Schottenheimer and Phillips are a couple examples. Jauron seems to fit that mold too...he make a bad team respectable, but he can't make an average team good. Time to move on.

Maybe the Bills should try the strategy of keeping their good players. Or, we could roll the dice, trade Peters, and spend the best draft pick we get in return on a franchise left tackle and continue to spin our wheels for the next 5 years.

He would still be starting here. McKelvin would play the nickle for another year and McGee will walk next year as a free agent. If we don't re-sign Greer, Reggie Corner will be starting in 2010 unless they go out and spend another very high draft pick on a corner. There's about a 1% chance the Bills can keep McGee in Buffalo because he's going to be an unrestricted free agent right before an uncapped season. I don't think that "cash to cap" garbage the Bills insist upon is going to keep him around when he can get a ridiculously front-loaded contract elsewhere.

I think if the Chargers make the playoffs, they'll knock off the Colts.

Whitner is pretty average IMO. I won't knock him for not playing up to his draft pick status, because that's not his fault. Regardless, the guy averages out to about 6 million per year on his contract. Not many safeties across the league make that much...what the hell happens when his rookie deal expires? Does he take a pay cut down to about 4 million a year? Maybe he'll get a lot better and start making more big plays, but I'm not holding my breath.

I think something important to consider is that McGee and Youboty will be free agents going into an uncapped year. As it is, I think Greer is pretty much McGee's equal. He's younger, bigger, makes more big plays on defense, and will likely come much cheaper this offseason than McGee will next year. I'd do pretty much whatever it takes to re-sign him, keep McKelvin at nickel and returning kicks for another year, then still be OK once McGee bolts for huge money after 2009.