DarthICE

There it is in a nutshell. We have to start WINNING before we can draw good freeagents again. How? Draft well and coach em up

The wife is right. Anyone as a grown humanbeing that willfully does that to animals has a very dark side to them that is part of the core of his character. He can talk about being changed and all that BS, but he reminds me of the Turtle and the Scorpion story and he is definately a scorpion.

Well Winning teams that are in constent contention are build through the draft

Ponder looked like **** when he played OU

No. In this case the man is DEAD ON! Who is that you might ask? Jeffery Littman.

Stroud has played?

Yeah and its a good thing they couldn't run the ball well. NOW GB will be willing to up their offer I feel.

And Weis, Crennel etc. For those still backing Wilson, yeah the Chiefs have sucked, but this is Pioli's 2nd full year as GM and they are at least headed in the right direction with ownership that wants to win. Even if somehow the wheels fall off, the point is the owner is willing to PAY top talent in an attempt to get where he wants to go. Wilson? Hey as cheap as he can get baby! Wilson lucked into Polian and then fired him when he went against Wilsons cheap ways. Where was this team before Polian? Since Polian? Yeah nuff said.

I read an article in USA Today that reflects on this and they are dead on. KC's ownership is committed to WINNING. Look at the money they have invested, they paid greatly to get a guy that is considered 'the' man who built the partriots in Scott Pioli to be GM and handed him football operations. Look at their OC and DC's. Former HC's in some capasity AND Both have WINNING superbowl experience and are regarded as two of the best at their jobs. I am willing to bet that the combined salaries of Nix, Gailey and our coaches is about what Pioli's is alone. Facts are Ralph Wilson has never, and will never put a premium on Front office staff and coaching. This has always been his issue and where his 'Cheap ass' reputation comes from, and rightfully so.

You lie! Our entire OL sucks, sucks I tell you!!!!....

Yes he is cheap. I always see his defenders come rushing to the front with the Bills players salaries and I have to LMAO at the pure ignorance. For the 5 billionth time, THE TV CONTRACTS PAY THE SALARIES!!!! There did caps help you? I remember back when Fan TV was still on and Chris Speilman had some chick call in and talk **** about 'we pay your salaries' blah blah blah'. He refrenced the CBA ver batum, article, page whatever and said 'No mam, do the research the TV contracts pay the Salaries, owners are NOT on the hook for them'. It has been in articles all over the place in past history, esp when Ralph wouldn't pay John Butler what he was worth and JB said 'screw you old man' with his last draft and bolted to San Diego. It made it out back then that Ralph has NEVER put a premium on a front office. He got Polian on the cheap because he promoted him. He got Marv on the cheap bringing him in when he did. Ralph Wilson has always felt he can just go get anybody to GM and Coach his teams, his history dictates that. Honestly, If Bill Polian hadn't been 'Bill friggin Polian' and been the genius he is, where would this team have been? I guarantee you Marv Levy NEVER makes the HOF if Bill P hadn't surrounded him with a team that had at least 5 HOF players on it and multiple probowlers at one time. Why was Polian really fired? My old source that I had way back when said two reasons. 1. Yeah he called Ralphs daughter a bad word and as my source said 'She deserved it'. 1A. Jeffery Litman. That SOB is even more frugal than Ralph which is why Ralph has him. Remember BP got fired about the time Free agency really got started. Why? Jeff wouldn't pay too keep/ bring in players. Bill told them it had to be done, layed out how they were going to have to spend to get quality players or keep their own. Pffft! PAY? are you kidding me? So that ended the BP era and started our downward spiral to becoming the worst ran team in football AGAIN.

No he isn't. Spiller hands down is the best back we have. Marshawn has been featured for one reason and that is to get trade value for him.

Would that be the same Christian Ponder that got his ass kicked by OU Two weeks ago? No thanks

So what? The FACTS are this, the Bills have always and will always suck ass under Ralph Wilson. So either he passes and sells to an owner that is willing to turn this around, or they keep sucking. If you are of the 'at least we have a team no matter how crappy they are' crew then please shut up and quit bitching about the quality of the team put on the field. It will ALWAYS suck under Ralph Wilsons reign. Either you take a chance on a new owner or keep dealing with the same crap, you can't have it both ways. And one more thing, please post something that can factually back up your claim they are going to move. I for one am tired of the uninformed hysteria out of some Bills fans. This team is going NO WHERE and even if it did move, it would be after the new owner was able to show over years that the team couldn't make it here. Buffalo is guaranteed profit to the NFL vs other locations.

This shocks anyone? Yeah I know Bills fans want to scream 'rumor' and 'back the accusations with some link' or some BS. Bottom line it has been whispered about the league for years, Ralph is a cheap ass. He has never put a premium on GM's or HC's. He feels they are a dime a dozen. Look at the history of this franchis with him as the owner, outside of the Bill Polian years IT HAS SUCKED and will till the day the man dies.

I can tell you this, the group I watch with was going to make Sundays game against NE our last one of the year if they had sucked. We will keep going out at least for awhile after that last one.

Now that Green Bay couldn't run the ball last night, look for them to up their offer for Marshawn.

Another FACT if these players aka EMPLOYEES don't want to be 'slaves' then go open their own business'. As long as you get a paycheck from a company, you are an employee no matter what. It is past time the employers take back the power from the employees.

Yeah the same. They get an over 100k education and either bypass it or do nothing with it. I don't feel for them at all. BTW if the owners win, the FANS win. Ticket prices are out of hand and bigger more expensive stadiums are being built to pay those huge salaries. I agree with the owners 100% across the board. Time for employees to be employees again and deal with it. Dont' like it? Then go get a job. Because he knows the owners will put an 11th hour deal on the table and either the NFLPA can take it or go on strike. If they strike, there will be replacement games until the NFLPA accepts it. The owners are tired of the inmates running the asylum and I agree.

Seriously? One game and he is a bust? Wow...

The man could easilly be considered THE best all around player in NFL history. God Bless his family, and rest in peace George you earned it.

Bull. Hey here is the deal either they can play the 18 games for the same overall salary or go get a damn job. No one holds a gun to these guys heads and says don't go out and get a degree with that FREE education the college you went to is giving you, instead go play football. Legal term applies here 'Asumption of risk'. They know the risks of putting their bodies through an NFL career and choose to do so. I am 100% with the owners across the board with 18 games, manditory BLOOD tests for Steroids, HgH etc, Rookie salary cap and the players not being paid 60% of the teams income. it has gotten WAY out of hand where the EMPLOYEES think they run the business.

Maybin. Nix said he hated one year wonders coming out in the draft. Guess who he was refering too?

Unpredictable on offense? Uh Wes, did you not see us hang 30 on your asses and it should have been more? and the only thing that was 'predictable' was our Defense sucking since there isn't a person on our front 7 that could start for a decent team in the NFL.

Bull crap! The guy sucks, you don't play below average to average players 24 million over the next few years. another stupid assed move by an inept front office to keep us floundering.