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Peyton threw something like 26 picks his first year, and did has his struggles, but the team he joined was pretty poor and he did still manage to out perform probably half the starting QB's out there. Marino had the fortune of joining a better team than Peyton, which is why he enjoyed faster success. Give me Peyton or his clone.

I like so many things about Fitz, unfortunately his one major flaw is his uncanny ability to be woefully inaccurate, especially at key moments. He generally makes quick decisions, has mobility, and plays with desire. It's just that God didn't bless him with a consistently accurate arm. At this point, it would be OK to see what we have in Brohm, but as others have said, I'd wait til after the Ravens who may be too tough a test for the inexperienced Brohm.

...but they should. Have you read his posts? (

THe first 6-8 games in his first year with the Bills, Stroud actually looked like he wasn't finished. It's been all downhill since.

....sorry, not making me feel any better.

Bull...... While I never was a big fan of Pete, guys who can block, and catch will always have a place. Some teams may favor pure blocking, some pure pass receivers, even though Pete was anything but "fleet a foot", he blocked well and knew where to find creases in a defense to make a strong contribution in the passing game. Checkdown, safety valve, whatever you want to call it, Pete could play.

Waste of a thread.....

Increase in pay? It was said that the Texans wanted him as a situational player, which likely meant less $$$ as well as less snaps.

Your comment under Wood (avatar), are way off base.

Yes, being a fan of a team playing badly and losing is not a fun time, yet you realize this is only a game don't you? That is of course, unless you're employed by the Bills, in which case....Get out !!!!

You just had to bring up Pat Williams, the single (although not the only) biggest reason Tom Donahoe should have faced a firing sqaud rather than simply being fired.

I don't trade Poz, nor do I like the thought of trading Evans. Whitner? I would take a veg-a-matic for him. Lynch? Debatable, but he could have brought something. Previously I was dead set against trading Lynch, so I guess I'm beginning to waffle on this a bit...

Jeez....what does his being white have to do with anything? This racist bullstuff is so weak....

Lee strikes me as a very good, number 2 receiver, but has shown to not be able to carry the load as a number one guy. Seems to be far too easily taken out of the game. His drops today certainly didn't win him any points either.

This year kinda reminds me of 2001. The beginning of the Tom Donahoe era, with Greg Williams who promised us an energetic, aggressive defense and team, only to give us crap. New regimes having to rebuild do frequently have rough beginnings. With this said though, it only makes the extension of Kelsay that much more perplexing. Why drag known mediocrity along with you through the process? An undrafted FA could be playing better than him.

Wow, how soon we forgot 2001. Is this the worst yet? Could be but we're no where done tallying the years output. 1968, 1971, 1976, 1977, 1984, 1985 were all very bleak years as well, as were a number of other as well. 1967-1971 was about the worst things could be for a 5 year period.

Dierdorf did....

Hummm, and since both Parties tripped over their own junk to give them, who do you hold accountable?

If only you had just gone away...... Lori is class, something you simply don't understand.

RT Green should be first.......

The last 10 years has been slowly draining my passion ..... Back in the late 80's and the 90's, I so looked forward to the next game.....

That last score by the Jets was a pitiful display of (...I can;t even call that defense).... George Edwards has proven that he's an idiot, and Chan is on his way to a very short tenure....

While trying not to over react after a horrible loss, I also disagree with the extending Chris Kelsay. He' not tough against the run, can't rush the passer, and his coverage skills are that of of a DE, non-existent. I don't care how nice of a guy he is, or how well he's liked by the FO and his team mates. He simply is a mediocre to poor player and always has been. The much vilified Ryan Denney outplayed Kelsay. Denney's gone, yet Kelsay remains. What do they see in this slug?

Jeez, what game did you watch? Other than that one 4th quarter series when Williams got a coverage sack and pass knock down, I wasn't impressed with him at all. I did see the entire Bills D get gashed play after play by average RB's. In a 3-4, the NT must be dominating and he was anything but. The time that the Bills used the 4-3, he looked average at best. I like the guy's effort and all, but we need far more production from him, period.

OK Nostradamus, what are Wednesday's lottery numbers since you can see all?