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DC Tom - :thumbsup:

Thanks for the confirmation.... My memory of it was verified. I still recall hearing the announcement on a local news show in Dayton Ohio. I was so angry at the time.....

....and now (maybe) we'll not have to face a barrage of "Pryor is God and Savior" posts for a while. It was also nice to see OSU get soundly beat. Such a big school that feasts on much smaller schools and programs with only a few real games each week.

Wow, to have a guy like Kenny Davis as Thurmans's relief. We did have period of good fortune back in the late 80's thru the early 90's. Wish all the best to you Kenny (and we'd love to have you back in whatever capacity available)!

When he was building that house in Virginia, or where ever it was, many weren't saying this then. Yet, it is nice to see how he's connected with Buffalo and has remained there. Especially nice since he's Buffalo's all-time best QB, and from the looks of things, he will remain such for quite some time to come. I guess I'm a bit envious of GB these days. Having had Bart Starr, then Favre, and now Rodgers.... Here's to hoping that when Ralph or his estate does sell the team, that Kelly is able to be a part of it.

Sadly, there's no players on the current roster like Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, Andre Reed, Jim Kelly, Darryl Talley, Wil Wolford, Kent Hull, etc. To even begin, we would have to hit homeruns on all of our drafts choices for the next 3 years.

Mr Statue? That is universally reserved for Bledso, and no, Marv did not bring him in. That was Donahoe.

Obama Care surely sticks in your craw, yet only God knows for what reason. If there's an issue with Obama Health Care Reform, it's that it simply didn't go anywhere near far enough. We have the most expensive health care system in the world, per capita, by more than double the next closest Country (Canada) and that's not a problem? Great Britain, Germany, Japan, and France all have even lower costs per capita than Canada (from AARP sourcing the World Health Organization data). 19 of the top 20 Countries (size of economy) all have nationalized health care, yet the U.S. had none at all until the recent reform was passed and even then, we less than half-stepped it. With overall inflation that has actually reached negative levels in the past two years at times, we still have the never ending double digit increases in Health Care costs. We don't even have a decent record with respect to preventable deaths, or infant mortality rates in this country. We're again way down the list. (again, World Health Organization data). The system is dependent on employers providing basic coverage (or more) and we have small firms increasingly dropping it, and big Corporations cutting benefits and raising employee contributions, and this is not a problem? We have an employer based system, in which employers do not have to play. Yet some wish to defend the system at all cost? This is insane, for anyone that remotely is or was in the "middle class" of the U.S. National debt rose under Regan/Bush from .99789 Trillion (Still in billions) to 4.4114 Trillion. It took 200 years to get to 997 Billion, and only a scant 12 years to get to almost 4.5 times that amount. Nice work there Ronnie and George. Regan and his supply side colleagues were the original architects of massive deficit spending. Time period cited was 9/30/81 (10/1/81 was when Regan's first budget went in) to 9/30/93 which ended George Bush's last budget. That roughly 3.5 Trillion added to the deficit by the Reagan/Bush years. Clinton's Presidency grew the deficit to 5.565 Trillion (as of 9/30/2001 which ended his last budget). Far less growth in deficits and had this country moving in the right direction with respect to reducing deficit spending. Then came the world record holder, George W Bush. When his last budget ended (9/30/2009), the deficit stood at 11.909 Trillion. Nice work W. The deficit was not only more than doubled in his 8 years, he left the economy in the worst shape it's been in since the Great Depression. Who the keeper of the treasury? Clearly this points out that no party is, yet one stands out head and shoulders above the other. The GOP has won, hands down for making the major raid on the treasury. Another landslide victory for the GOP. So where has all the money gone? Tax cuts? Quite a bit. Overspending, yes in may cases. Yet the real (and only) winners are the very rich. In 1973, the top 1% taxpayers, earned 8% of the total national income. By 2006, the same 1% now earned 23% of the total national income. Hummmmmm. By contrast, using the same time period, the average worker in the U.S. made Approximately $746.oo per week as measured in today's dollars. Yet by 2007, the average worker was earning $612.00 as measured in today's dollars. When a pie only contains 100%, and one group, no matter how small of a percentage of the population they are, increases their take from 8% of the pie to 23% of the pie, someone has to suffer, in which the suffering is borne by the middle class and the poor. A prime example is the growth is CEO salaries. In 1973, they averaged approximately 45 times their average worker. By 2006, it runs 500 to 600 times, with some much higher. Again not since just before the Great Depression has the disparity been this great (Paul Leopold - Looting of America, and others). [also see - science of CEO salariesand google them yourselves. You should be shocked. These same CEOs may be the top guns, but they are still only employees. The current GOP wishes to do nothing more than to not only continue this recipe for disaster, they wish to strengthen it. When the financial institutions and GOP policies led us to the brink, guys like John Boehner (OH) and Mitch McConnell (KY), the GOP leaders of the House and Senate, felt the watered down banking reform passed was far too strong. Both Republicans and Democrats in the Senate especially, are rich. Who do you believe a bit more. The one who clearly is fighting to make their take greater (more Tax cuts for them, the rich), or those who are also rich, but feel the rich (themselves included) should pay more in taxes with some additional relief given to the middle class above what Bush added to appease the masses when his Bonanza was passed for the Rich in 2001? No rocket science here. Even Warren Buffet, a some what wealthy man himself, has called for higher taxes on the rich, with possible additional relied for the middle class. Why is that? Does he not understand Capitalism? Or is it that maybe his conscience tells him to do the right thing? I'll take the word of Warren Buffett over any Politicians, any day of the week, with respect to the economy. As for conservative values, and while not in any way criticizing alternatives, I believe in Marriage between a man and women. I don't believe in abortion or divorce in most cases. For every dollar spent, I like to see a dollars value received. I don't believe in massive deficits. Fairly conservative values for the most part, yet the Conservative party has been so intent on their power, privilege, and their love of the rich while having nothing but disdain for the middle class and poor that they long ago proved themselves unworthy of serving the American people. In 1993-94 when the GOP contract with America was formulated, it contained one huge key element that led me to generally support much of it. Term Limits. Then, the GOP showed that they only wanted term limits until they came to power, then zippo on that issue going forward. Lie, sure it was, an outright lie if there ever was one, and they continue tho lie to the the American people today. Couple that with their looting of America, and they shown themselves to be in league with the Anti-Christ. Lie, deceive, cheat.....nice.

Jeez, JSP, I didn't realize the Bills had "slipped", or that were were losing ground on the rest of our division. We've been so strong the last 10 years that I find it hard to believe. You deserve an award for enlightening this board with your wisdom, knowledge and foresight.

What's sad is that we've become so numb, we have a hard time mustering any real emotion. It's hard to cheer when you KNOW the roof will cave in any moment.

Congrats Fez.... Been an iGoogle homepage user for some time (what's happened to the gadget offering?) and Engadget is a gadget added to my Tech page/tab. Enjoy it although I sure do wish for more information than the sound bites they have and currently still offer. Any chance of a bit more in depth reporting? As for iGoogle, I clicked on add stuff tonight and there's a lot less there now than there was earlier this year when a "re-built" my iGoogle homepage. Did Google get into legal hassles by with their gadgets, etc.?

Ah, someone who gets it and understands. What the Beatles evolved into and what they pioneered that forever changed the landscape of Rock and Roll. That, and they laid down some outstanding songs along the way. As for entertainers having something to say (griped about by others in this thread), beyond their music is every bit as important as any other voice this planet. Listen to what they say or don't, it's your choice. Jeez, this coming from a crowd that thought of the actor from Bedtime for Bonzo being held as a quality President........ Lennon spoke (and wrote) of peace. Now that's a bad thing, how dare he.....

The worst move to date (of the above) was Icognito. Lousy at pass protection, but a very tough run blocker who (if he could keep his nose clean , and that's a big if for Icognito) would have allowed Wood to move inside or at least get stronger before being pressed back into service. Wood clearly has struggled a bit, and may have returned before he was truly ready. I still like the Spiller pick though.

Fans like you won't be missed, in fact had you simply stopped posting, no one would have noticed. Enjoy the Sea ducks....

Degrees of offense. Lynch had a hit and run. That's one big difference. Second, he had a weapons issue. That's two. Both much greater offenses in my book. If every college player who took money, gifts, etc., that he shouldn't have, was no longer to play football, the NFL ranks would be pretty thin.....

Nice of you to make a point that is already so very understood by most. Fitz is not the guy that we lead this or virtually any team to the SB. What he has been though, is the most productive player we had the past three games. A top QB is always a high priority, but what this team has shown so painfully to date is that the talent cupboard is bare, To this extent, we owe a great debt of outrage to Modrak, Levy, and Jauron. Blame Wilson, but these three "geniuses" were the de facto destroyers of the current Bills.

Good, bad or indifferent, and era will end soon. Two of Ralph's biggest mistakes were the hiring of Stew Barber and the firing of Polian. Barber made the 79-83 a miserable time when Ralph had actually hired a quality HC (Chuck Knox). Like it or not, Ralph is inextricably tied to Buffalo for eternity.

Peyton threw something like 26 picks his first year, and did has his struggles, but the team he joined was pretty poor and he did still manage to out perform probably half the starting QB's out there. Marino had the fortune of joining a better team than Peyton, which is why he enjoyed faster success. Give me Peyton or his clone.

I like so many things about Fitz, unfortunately his one major flaw is his uncanny ability to be woefully inaccurate, especially at key moments. He generally makes quick decisions, has mobility, and plays with desire. It's just that God didn't bless him with a consistently accurate arm. At this point, it would be OK to see what we have in Brohm, but as others have said, I'd wait til after the Ravens who may be too tough a test for the inexperienced Brohm.

...but they should. Have you read his posts? (

THe first 6-8 games in his first year with the Bills, Stroud actually looked like he wasn't finished. It's been all downhill since.

....sorry, not making me feel any better.

Bull...... While I never was a big fan of Pete, guys who can block, and catch will always have a place. Some teams may favor pure blocking, some pure pass receivers, even though Pete was anything but "fleet a foot", he blocked well and knew where to find creases in a defense to make a strong contribution in the passing game. Checkdown, safety valve, whatever you want to call it, Pete could play.

Waste of a thread.....

Increase in pay? It was said that the Texans wanted him as a situational player, which likely meant less $$$ as well as less snaps.