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Cynical - Excellent spot on response.

It always begins as "underachieving" until (by then it's usually too late) it's realized the team is bad. The Cowboys simply are not the quality team many thought they were. As bad as the Bills? probably not, but even then they might not be that far apart in many ways. Another case of a meddling idiot owner, poor HC, and so on down throughout the team.

At 26, if he can pass a physical, he's worth a shot, absolutely. Watching Kelsay play week after week is a brutal experience, and Davis & Ayodele sure aren't much better. This is a Bills have "nothing to lose" situation.

Bill, generally your thought are very close or right on the money, but to continue to blame Ralph for every decision concerning the Bills personnel, or their draft choices borders on schizophrenia. This is not to say that Ralph is a saint and the Bills woes are due totally to the making of others, as this would be plain stupidity. Yet, he simply isn't the sole problem. Fault him for whom he brought in that makes or influences draft and personnel decisions, and you would have unanimous agreement. Chan Gailey spoke well before the draft that he liked scat backs. He also likes what Roscoe brings to the table as well.

Sure, while Fitz has had us in position to win 3 games (Pats, Ravens, and Chiefs), he also contributed heavily to the losses with 2 bad picks in each of the Pats and Ravens game, and his single one (yet equally horrible) today. While there is a lot of fault to be shared by the entire team, and coaches, Fitz isn't exempt.

Well said.

Edwards is getting heat from the Boards the old fashioned way. He's earned it!

Sure, but then come back with a run or two.... But in OT, they also went pass happy when runs may have been more appropriate, especially with KC playing pass (as we were obviously committing to do). Yet had Fitz thrown that pass to Spiller a tard and a half shorter, everyone would be singing praises of Fitz....

Howard was far more embarrassing than was Bell. Kelsay and Whitner? When has either ever shown up to play? We should have had two picks today. First obviously was dropped by Wilson. The second was after Flornece batted a ball away, Whitner was horribly slow trying to get to the ball that fell harmlessly to the ground.

Spiller has a line that simply opens very few holes, compared what the opposition does to us. Our D line and LB's are horribly lacking. Spiller also runs tentatively to me, he runs as much in and East West direction, and needs to temper that with a stronger does of North South running. Find your spot and go. Hard to give a guy more carries when ball security may be an issue as well. This was the kind of game that is extremely demoralizing, one blown opportunity after another. However, I do award a game ball to KC Haley and one for Weiss, for allowing Cassell to throw. Had they just simply ran the ball all day, our Bills would never have been in the game.

Yeah, maybe, but give it a rest. Fitz also threw 2 horrible picks against the Pats and the Ravens to contribute heavily to those losses. Sure the D sucks, but Fitz and any Bills QB has to stop making the huge mistakes and miss-fires that plague Fitz. Today, Fitz was Fitz. One good throw, one mediocre throw, two horrible throws, a decent throw....etc. He had help today, mostly from a run defense that is the most pitiful run D I have ever seen. Also, Howard at RT was brutal today. Hali owned him, lock, stock, and barrel. Yet, despite it all, the game was there and Fitz simply came up empty multiple times when one key play, and the game was over. He had his shot at the end of regulation and twice in OT. 0 for 3 when one key play gives us the game. It was there for the taking and Fitz said "no thanks". Fitz is a heartbreaker. He plays hard, has moxy, has guts, but his arm betrays him, the Bills, and us over and over again. His INT in the final seconds was a brutally horrible throw, and one gets tired of seeing balls slip out of his hand when throwing, along with his wildly inconsistent accuracy. Fitz the "Heartbreaker". Brohm may turn out to be a bum, but we may get to see him soon.

Didn't see that, but it may simply fall into the who cares category at this point. The Bills had their chances today, played hard, but simply did not make the Game winning play despite having multiple chances. This one was heartbreaking....

Taht run defense is top notchs, isn't it? I also love how Fitz comes thru in the clutch..... Cheap shots, yes, but unless or until these change, it's hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel.

Time to let bygones be bygones gents.

Howard simply played poorly all day. Hali owned him, without a doubt. Not a good sign. His game against the Ravens was journeyman like, but the quick drops and throws helped tremendously. Today, Fitz wasn't as quick and Howard's play was far more noticeable.

No run plays to close that last drive in regulation either. After the deep ball to Spiller, why not sprinkle a run or two in? The Bills today ran virtually no play action either as they never seemed to be willing to try to run the ball. Sure a run here, a run there, no real effort to establish the run. Maybe they felt they simply couldn't. Sure was a horrible disappointment.

While I would agree you didn't cross any line that I was aware of, generally the IRC chat is the better of the two, by far. Yet, I will disagree with you regarding the elbow. Yet, Corner came down on top of a player who was out of bounds and his elbow may have been moot anyway.....so any argument about the elbow was moot.

Fitz just continues to fail in the clutch. He is breaking our hearts with spirited play, only to let us down when the game is on the line..........how depressing.

Yes, that was in my mind when I wrote my post. My step dad at the time, told me there would always be next year. Hummmmmm...it took a bit more than a year....

Also, if you get a heck of a home for less than National Averages, you still have to deal with NY taxes......

Drat, I was going to add of course we've got a number of hidden gems, but they're well hidden. That's why they're "hidden gems".

Jeez, take off the rose colored glasses, will ya? 2009 showed a Fitz who threw 9 Tds against 10 Ints with a QB rating of 69.7. Pretty poor numbers there. Yes, Fitz has proven to be far more effective than Edwards, but heck, how hard was that? Fitz was playing well against the Pats, up until those two wildly inaccurate throws that were picked and sealed the win for the Pats. He played fairly miserably against the Jets( 12-27 for a whopping 128 yards, with about a third of that coming in the 4th quarter after the Jets were up 38-7 and coasting. After the game, Gailey has said he was about to give Brohm some playing time, but since Fitz got the Bills a score with 9 minutes left in the 4th, he decided to give Fitz another series, in which the Bills did squat. That was not a good performance, but Fitz wasn't alone, the O-Line was horrible that day as well. Pedestrian would be the best way to describe his performance against the Jags. Nice garbage time TD to Johnson in the 4th made his stats look better than he was effective. In truth, his best games, against the Pats and the Ravens, were both marred by his two costly interceptions in both games. Fitz is the proverbial "almost" QB. More than adequate in a backup role, yet.......

I watched a dozen replays and never saw that. You must have x-ray vision Superman.

1967 Bills, defensive line - McDole, Dunaway, Sestak, Prudhomme, Meredith ???? Hummm.

Well stated. I'll be excited about "Stevie" if he proves out solid over a couple seasons. He is benefiting a lot from Lee drawing top coverage, and being relatively unknown. Will he be able to produce going forward. Time will tell. Personally, I like that David Nelson kid alot and he shows well for the little time he gets. We also have Easley coming back who looked very good in camp this year. We may actually have ourselves a solid WR corp for the next few years. Now that Shawn Nelson is back, I'm more than curious if the Bills and Nelson will be able to put his speed (for a TE) and what he has shown to be good hands to use.