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At his best Villerial would have been considered a solid Guard and now old mother time is gaining on him quick. believe what we saw last year from him was an athlete hitting the wall. We better have a replacement ready to go

Shayne Graham? What about Jake Ariens? What's he doing now? Pumping gas? Shayne Graham was actually decent in replacing Jake, and he's also gone on to being one of the leagues better kickers since joining the Bengals. TD sure knew everything about kickers.

I think Thurman suffered a liver laceration on the hit. I cursed out Flutrie all year long after that. We all knew TT wasn't going to be around much longer and the toad hung him out to dry and save a few late season games (including a nice 15-16 carry, 85 yard or thereabouts game against the Pats), he was done.

Actually, I think you're referring to the infamous 1-2 yard throw to Moulds on 4th and 7 against the Pats. Pure genius, especially considering Mould was doubled. So how long before JP or anyone else can be that polished? Answer - yesterday.... Holcomb's Arm aside, Holcomb is a career backup at best who can on occasion actually have a decent game or two. In fact they're good enough to make folks think he isn't half bad and should get a shot as starter. News break - the Browns, that franchise factory of QB greatness, thought so too and found out otherwise (as we did as well). Holcomb is a backup, albeit a decent one, but a backup none the less.

Great with the press? Maybe, but 2-5 are nothing but wishful thinking....Pure speculation.

His entire career, including USC, but then that makes me older than most around here...

It was around 30.....but hey, why not embellish it a bit. Maybe in a few more years, it will be up to 50...

This was.... You must really hate Pyrite's loooooooong posts.

OK, that does it. You're next.......... Ah, a voice of reason and wisdom. Not much of this going on around here of late. Thanks RR.

Or better yet, any G.W. Bush Q&A....

Clearly (and overtly obvious) the exception.

Exactly, There was a time during Kelly's career that when teams lined up against the run, he'd pass. When they played the pass, he'd handoff play after play.

That would be my guess....

And that my friends will be the only way to accurately gauge this years draft., as it always has been, and always will be, although I would shorten the period to 3 years. Now that my "beer' haze and initial disappointed has faded, I will do the only thing we can and that is to give these picks a chance. I really wish we would have added more quality to our lines, FA & draft, but alas..... Had we managed to land Reggie Wells, I'd feel better about our O-line. Reyes, Gibson, Fowler? None of those guys strike fear into anyone's hearts. Even the much heralded McNally has yet to take a turd and make him serviceable. The only developing O-line guy we have is Peters to date, and we've not been able to get a contract extension with him so far. The rest....?

It's sad to make one 1st round "reach", with so much at stake, but Marv has managed to make two reaches in round 1. While I still would have taken Ngata (or even Bunkley), trading down would have been better, had there been a mid 1st willing to trade. A year or two from now, we may sit back and regale in our happiness over this years draft, but I strongly doubt it. Marv stated in a PC shortly after his hire that the game is won and lost in the trenches. That seems so long ago now. I like both DB's we picked up so far, but we needed the big guys more.,....

Bunkley and Justice would have been decent, although I still favored Ngata. With that said, we still would have had 2 - 3rds to go and so far, only our 3rd round pick seems to have been a good value....We lost the chance to pick up another early round, solid player.

.....and for you, I've got this little piece of property in Florida that I'll let you have for a steal....

We won't have this level of enthusiasm and optimism around here... What did we get? Another year of watching our defensive front line get pushed all over the field. Just stinking Great.

1.) Ngata 2.) Justice For starters.......... Plus, we could have still had both 3rds....maybe then pick McCargo, plus the DB we got in the third anyway. Yet....in the truest sense of Butler 2000, we LOST.

This draft, with so many possibilities, has been totally wasted by a former HC who should have stayed retired...... Why do I keep hearing Jets fans laughing....... Marv - Go back to Chicago, sit by the lake, and learn to feed the birds. At all, that's who your first day picks were for anyway....

I agree, and I will add that no matter how many years someone gives Young, he won't make it as a starting QB in the NFL.

200-300 Mil? Capital gains is now taxed at 15%, is it not. If I'm wrong, someone provide correct figures. And who's to say what the final gain would be ruled to be. Thats would make the taxes pretty small by many a standard. Inheritence taxes are the ones that still haven't been adjusted downward in a signficant way for estates over 1 mil, IIRC.

I liked the fact that Everett was up to about 260. Then he was hit with a groin injury. Hope this guy can contribute.