DrDawkinstein

Same thing we said about Mac Jones, wasnt it? How's this working out? Blitzing when you physically cant get home does nothing but give the QB an easy read and wide open WR.

I dont fancy myself an Xs and Os guy. Especially on Offense. And especially with modern NFL Offenses. That said, over the past couple weeks I've watched: 1. the JT O'Sullivan breakdown of the Tampa game 2. the Cover1 breakdown of the Tampa game 3. a couple other Cover1 videos from this season Maybe 2-3 hours worth of watching unofficial videos of guys who are knowledgeable but still mostly guessing on what is happening on the field. From that alone, this past Monday Night, I was able to tell my wife exactly what play the Bills were running and exactly what routes the WRs would be running a number of times. And I dont know JACK SQUAT! Every DC has us figured out. Every defensive player should have us figured out. That alone is grounds for firing Ken Dorsey.

Ehh, I'll admit to not focusing on him during the game, but the times I did notice him it wasnt for anything good. Mostly getting absolutely stonewalled or blown up when trying to blitz. McD should be canned for sending our smurf LBs on blitzes so much. I do hope he can develop over the next couple of years.

Definitely correctable (to an extent), and it's on the OC to correct it not make it worse. They're all Super Bowl Winning Great, and that's the only great that matters. And what we want for Josh.

When it's a couple players, that's on the players. When it is practically the entire team, that is on coaching. These guys all made the NFL. They know how to do the basics. Better than anyone who posts here. Better than even the best athlete you've ever personally known. The fact that they aren't means coaching has them demotivated and/or confused by asinine gameplans.

Then what do you do if they are successful and end up the lead HC candidate for 2025? You firing McD then or just keep the OC carousel going? And if you are bringing in someone as OC, you are promoting someone who has likely never called plays before. Again. I'd rather make a hot OC our Head Coach since that is what will need to happen anyways.

No, he can't and he can't technically. The HC and GM each separately report directly to Pegula. Terry is the only one who can fire the HC. He is the only one who can fire the GM. They are not tied together. Unless he fired McD and asked Beane "Do you want to go with your friend or keep your job?" and I'm almost 100% certain Beane would choose to keep his job.

I know youre mostly joking, and his methods simply do not work with modern players anymore, but he would definitely have the guys ready for situational football like lining up for a field goal.

With who?

Did you mean to quote me?

It's tough to say what makes a good HC in the modern NFL where players are mainly Gen Z. I dont think any of us old timers would've thought Mike McDaniel would last a day in a classic football locker room. But players are eating up his style and message. Additionally, I'd even argue that at this level, players dont need as much coaching as they need schemers who will put them in positions to succeed and then GTFO of their way. The Head Coach is mainly handling game management stuff. If the Offense is hot and scoring points, the entire team will motivate itself. Our guys know how to catch, they know how to hold onto the ball, they know how to tackle. They must to make it this far. The reason they arent is because they dont believe in leadership.

I'm not a betting man, and even I would bet big money that Pegula has already reached out to the same consulting service he used to find McDermott.

Oh I wasnt saying it as a bad thing. Just that it wouldnt be the guys we know.

It's not just people on this board. We've watched Bienemy be the hot HC candidate as the OC for the top team for years, and every year he does a number of interviews for HC, and every year the teams move on without even considering him. There's smoke there. I've never seen anyone criticize him on his offensive prowess and Xs and Os. It's usually only about his past issues (not quiiite as bad as your boy Cornelius, but still), and his general demeanor.

If you bring in an outsider like Ben Johnson, you'll have to let him hire his own guys as Coordinators. Likely guys we've never even heard of. I was hoping for a move where McD fired not only Dorsey, but himself as DC, promoted Babbich, and went back to pure HC duties to try to salvage the season.

I'm not a fan of absolutes either, but I will say there is NO WAY McVay would come to Buffalo. He'd just retire from coaching, stay in LA, and take $20M/year as a broadcaster.

Funny enough, the best our offense has looked all year was the first week after Knox's injury (Tampa) where we used Davis as more of a WR/TE hybrid and got him in those short/underneath routes and ran Kincaid as a TE/WR hybrid at the same time as well. Practically NO real TEs. It isnt. Looking at his production and where he lands in the list, it's pretty fair and accurate. Plus, it's only year 1 of the new contract and it will only look better after another round of FA. Worth keeping around at that price even just as the blocking/red zone TE option. Plenty of other players that need to be cut to save money before we get to Knox.

The good news is, as you point out, they are not both the same kind of "tight end".

Bro, wake up and open your eyes. There's no feelings involved in my comments. He's done.

If Orlovsky was serious, I wouldnt be against giving him a shot. Although I'd prefer under a new HC. I'd just be shocked if Dan is serious about giving up his cushy commentating job, and time with his young family, to take a miserable coordinating job.

But we do know that McD will NEVER get us to the promised land, and has already lost the locker room. In this case, the unknown is better than the known. This is where we are as a contender. Have to make scarier decisions when you are a good team that wants to be great. Need to be able to make the tough moves in order to hit the next level.

I think asking the question is a fun exercise and good discussion. I'm interested if anyone brings up any unknown names. But I agree, asking the question to refute the idea of firing the coach is not a good argument since us commoners dont have all the information the owner and his consultants have. That said, Head Coach is a tough one. Not many decent candidates out there as it seems the NFL has stripped the Shanahan/McVay tree of everyone serviceable over the last 5 years. When Eric Bienemy is the best known name out there, that's tough.

Dorsey was the main one behind it, by continuing to trot out a predictable, bumbling, pop warner level Offense. Watching that Denver game, it was clear as day. After weeks of floundering and an offensive players meeting, this was the make or break week to turn it around. Go out there, start fast, and show us you can run an offense like a half-competent professional. Nope! Had to go. So Dorsey did this to himself. The fans and media were all over it. McD saw the need to change. And Terry signed off on it. The best team work Dorsey has managed to produce in his short tenure.

Yes, let's move on. From the Bills. Perfect timing going into the holiday season for the Bills to bring me back to that familiar territory of checking out in mid-November. I recognize this feeling from the -00s. Will be focusing on getting the house/yard ready for winter this weekend. See you at the draft, Bills.

Funny you mention a coach-for-coach trade. I was just thinking last night if we could pull one off with the Giants. They get McD who is good for fixing a bottom-5 team. We get Dabol who our players love and would fix our offense. Git r dun