DrDawkinstein

Firing just the DC and leaving McD in place will almost guarantee an internal promotion and running the same crappy scheme. So to answer your 2nd question first, yes its likely we promote Al Holcomb. To your first question... It absolutely shouldnt be Al Holcomb. It should be an outsider who can run their defense on their own, much like McD lets the OCs do their thing without a ton of influence. Need to find the next Spags/Fangio/Lebeau type of guy who had a crack at HC, but now just wants to punish Offenses until he retires.

This is very typical McBeane drafting. They love finding raw specimens in the 3rd round. Guys who might've gone earlier if not for a couple of small things that McBeane believes they can develop. Dawson Knox, didnt catch many passes at all at Ole Miss, had some issues his rookie season, developed into one of Josh's favorite safety valves. Bernard, looked small, didnt start right away, big question mark, developed into starter/Captain Spencer Brown, big raw OT, took a year or so to develop, now one of the best OTs in the NFL Dorian Williams, another small LB from a small school Beane loves 3rd round Project Players. Landon Jackson fits this perfectly. Raw DE who needs time to develop. Look for him to improve next year and then really come into his own in 2027, if he can pull it off.

I dont think he was supposed to, but McDaniel let the cat out of the bag in his press conference yesterday. Right off the bat says its a "major knee procedure on multiple ligaments" The actual quote is "um.. major.. um..knee procedure... um... on.. um.. multiple... um.. ligaments..."

Thought this was very interesting from Sunday... Josh with 22 passes Cook with 22 carries

Almost worse, no? We're actually blitzing a ton but folks cant even tell because they arent getting home or even past the LOS a lot of times. Whether it's the blitzes Babich is calling, the play design, or players not executing, there are big issues that the DC needs to address asap.

Yep. He's literally McDermott's main pet-project and protege. Telling.

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Who knows how long he'll keep up this charade as he collects his $260M! Next week being the Rams game? Because he's definitely missing the Texans game to prove his point. There's no telling. Like I've said, I believe he has a tweaked hammy. I just also believe that its an "injury that Josh, Mahomes, Cousins, Hurts, pretty much every other QB except maybe Richardson would play through. Everyone has dings and tweaks this time of year. No one else is pulling themselves out of games over them. I mean, the title of this thread is about comparing Lamar and Josh. The whole recent "injury" discussion is new and a tangent of this thread.

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Josh breaks a hand, never misses a beat. I believe he played through a bad elbow for a while too. Mahomes, multiple leg injuires, never misses a snap. Oliver hits Jackson, cant play crucial 4th down. Jackson gets tackled hard down 30-17, walks off and leaves game. Doesnt have a new contract, let's Huntly play in playoffs. Just some good-natured ribbing that when he comes back "early" after next week instead of 2-3 weeks, most of us will know he wasnt that injured, and you'll be in the group that is amazed by what a competitor he is to come back early. All good. Go Bills!

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I believe he'll be out this week, but to your point, he'll be back after that. And then the Ravens and fans can laud it as this amazing comeback because he's such a specimen and competitor. But it doesnt erase the tape of what we all saw. @BillsFan130 will eat it up tho.

I think it's really nothing more than he wanted to show he was ok so it didnt bring the team and fans down, but he doesnt have the mental/emotional maturity to know all he had to do was a simple and strong thumbs-up. And he probably knew it was bad and didnt want to show it. So what we got was that weird, awkward "celebration".

Nope different situation altogether than Peyton. Its kinda crazy to me after we've all watched Josh so much, how you cant see the obvious difference in drive and demeanor. Maybe watch more Ravens games. But I get you dont want to believe this for whatever reason, and I've seen enough to believe it. So agree to disagree I guess.

His performances in the playoffs and when things are at their toughest say different. He chalks up a lot of regular season wins and stats tho.

I dont think any of that must go together. He got those MVPs by having ridiculous stats. If you go back and look, he got a LOT of those stats in garbage time with his team already way up. The same type of situations that the Bills pull Josh and other starters. The Ravens keep Lamar in and keep him throwing to pad stats. He's had quitting accusations since his 3rd year in the league. This is nothing new. You can have good stats and be mentally soft. Totally faked an injury? No Found a good excuse to pull himself out of a bad game, and take some time to rest in a bad season? Believable

I dont think its as big as youre making it sound. Certainly not some grand conspiracy. But it's not just saving Lamar face. It's a bad look for Harbaugh and the entire organization to have Lamar go back out on Sunday like he is totally fine and make it clear he pulled himself and the coaches have no control of the team. Schitt is spiraling in Baltimore right now. It's a pick-your-poison situation, but letting Lamar rest for a week is a better look for a lot of people than having him play. They arent risking the whole season, just Sunday. The season is bad enough already.

Yes. Does he have "something" there? Probably. Just as EVERY player does. We see it on every BTS show they make on the NFL. 4 weeks in, everyone has dings and issues they are working through. The difference is, most of the other guys play through them. Cousins famously on the 1st season of Quarterbacks. Josh with his broken hand. Etc etc. If the vibes were different in Baltimore, and the Ravens were close or ahead in that KC game, I believe he would have finished the game. If the vibes were different in Baltimore, and the Ravens were 3-1, I believe he'd be playing next week and we wouldnt even know about any hammy. So while he probably isnt totally "faking" an injury, I believe he is using it to sit out of this garbage season.

I say keep them up there. If history has taught us anything, they'll blow the picks. And even if they do hit, the rest of the team will be so inept it wont matter. And then they'll probably be in another regime change when the rookie contracts are up and let those players walk anyways.

Not sure how injury settlements work tho. To your point, it will be up to any language in his contract.

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Couldnt happen to a better guy. So happy for him.

Dislocated knee. The worst injury it could be. Not only is his career over, but now his wife and kids can out run him when he tries to beat them. It's not the players or Glenn that needs to be fired. Problem is, no one can fire Woody.

The vibe across the entire Ravens team is off right now. Fans were talking about how even long time veteran leaders who are always Rah-Rah guys were even hanging their heads when walking off the field early in the game. Lamar started with an INT, and then his own version of the Butt (Back) Fumble. And then he saw starters dropping to injuries. And the vibe kept getting worse. So he came up with an "injured hamstring". The mental weakness isnt just a Lamar problem, but that is certainly a place to start, as with any franchise QB. Henry's reaction after his fumble in the Lions game was unbelievable. I was surprised there were no other vets going to him to pick him up, and instead everyone let him throw himself down on the bench and then pace around wide-eyed saying "oh my god, oh my god". Between the playoff loss, and then week 1... Josh basically broke the Ravens franchise. With a little help from the Lions last week.