DrDawkinstein

Interesting question. I think the fact that he wants to build it out as a "Pipeline to the NFL" makes it very attractive to recruits. I think he'll be able to stand with any other coach he goes against. The (unfortunate) biggest factor nowadays tho is NIL money. So whether he can do it or not will really depend on how much boosters are willing to pony up to help him get his recruits. SMU boosters finally got their chance to legally pay players and they are in the Playoffs 1 year later. So it can be done. edit to add: With Saban retired, Belichick would be my top choice of "Coach I trust with my kid". If I'm a parent of a recruit, I'm pushing for Belichick over guys like Ryan Day, Brian Kelly, etc.

You and I can say that. But a college board of trustees watching their peers rake in Tens, if not Hundreds, of Millions of dollars more for their school changes things.

I dont think they are either. But he would be perfect going back to Carolina. Assuming Tepper was 1. smart enough to hire McD and 2. humble enough to stay out of his way. Two big asks.

In fairness, the title does say "AFTER we lose in the playoffs". I think this was supposed to be more about McD's continual botching of in-game decisions and strategy, and how it hasnt improved, and will likely rear it's ugly head again in the playoffs.

The amount of money available to be made in College Football makes that tough He didnt make that position up tho. Most big programs already have that guy in place.

From what I'm reading, it's a plan to get UNC up to snuff with the current powerhouses. Georgia, Oregon, Texas, Ohio, etc. So I wouldnt call them unrealistic considering all the other big programs run this way. He just gave them the blueprint of what it will take to get there.

Looks like he put the ball back in UNC's court to see if they are serious about building the Football program or if they want to continue being just a basketball school.

Looks official "Belichick’s bible would require historic levels of investment from the school. Includes salary minimums position by position and a willingness to hire two staffs: a coaching staff run by Belichick; a recruitment staff run by a sitting college GM — who would require a buyout Belichick has a college and pro version of his updated manual and has shared it with other schools and NFL teams. But he drafted a new one specific to UNC that touched on every aspect of the program and school. Will need sign off from AD, chancellor, trustees and boosters There has already been pushback from the group of 13 trustees, with input from wider faculty. The investment would overhaul the school’s approach to football; Belichick unsure if the school will meet the demands and is unwilling to negotiate"

In both employment AND the playoffs

All good on the previous stuff. Happens to the best of us WRT change of D scheme, roster turn over, and even the Dolphins... Like I said up-thread, we need a pretty big overhaul on Defense even if McD stays. Cut Von, cut Jones, add a few DL, a couple of CBs, and with the question mark hanging over Milano maybe some work on LBs as well. All 3 layers. So we arent adding much to Beane's plate either way. It's already full. Regardless of scheme, I think we re-sign Groot and Benford since they can play in any defense. With the Dolphins, funny enough, they had already used all their draft capital from the Tunsil trade before McDaniel arrived. And while they had Wilkins, Jones, VanGinkel in place, idiotically let most of those players walk THIS PAST offseason in order to throw more money at Tua, Waddle, and Hill. So the turnover had little/nothing to do with the coaching change, and was just bad GMing that steams from bad ownership. And while I dont love the Tampa-2, it isnt the scheme I have the problem with. It is the coaching and decision making when push comes to shove and we get in tricky situations. Doesnt matter what scheme we are running if the coach doesnt know how to manage time outs. That is my real beef. ALLLLL this said, no way does Terry fire McD so none of this discussion matters at all. But it is a fun/interesting way to kill a Monday at work.

He didnt get promoted from within the Texans. He was DC in San Fran before he was made HC in Houston. So if you cant get those basic facts right with a quick google search, we're done debating. Talk about being objectively wrong. lol As evidenced by yesterday's clock management, right?

NO IT ISNT. Please dont strawman me and purposely mis-state what I've already spent multiple posts clarifying for you.

Incorrect on the Dolphins, and incorrect on Ryans/Texans. They are actually decent comparisons in that neither org turned over their rosters, and neither roster was nearly as good as the Bills roster now. Not to mention the Philly and Chargers examples.

We need a massive overhaul on D even if McD stays. Need at least 3 new DL players, and will likely be drafting DL in the 1st again. Need at least 1 starting CB. Need to figure out the Safety spots. The only churn we'd be adding would be likely replacing Bernard and Williams. Maybe. And no, the issue isnt that the scheme isnt well suited for the playoffs, it's that McD isnt well suited for the playoffs because he cant win a coaching battle. The next 30For30 "The 13 Seconds of Buffalo" can say "They may have never won a Super Bowl with the best player to ever wear a Bills uniform, but at least they kept the team together".

That really isnt true in the modern era. They didnt turn over much in Philly. They didnt turn over much in Miami when they went from Flores to McDaniel (and those were VASTLY different coaches). They didnt turn over much in Houston when they brought in Ryans. They didnt turn over much in LA when the Chargers just brought in Harbaugh, it's essentially the 2023 team with an upgrade at HC. When the roster (and most importantly QB) is there, you bring in a coach to work with what you have. With Josh locked up, and most of our main talent signed, there wouldnt be much more turnover than we'd see if McD stays. There would be no reason to clean any house on Offense. And we have regular turnover on Defense anyways (but I would bet would still re-sign Groot and Benford. Maybe not Bernard). But we need all new DL and DBs anyways. No we wouldnt, and no it doesnt (anymore). We've seen it play out like that a million times in Buffalo during the drought when we didnt have a franchise QB or much talent around him. No one is walking into Buffalo and cleaning house on Offense. And we need the same additions/tweaks on Defense anyways. Far less upheaval than folks are worried about.

Read it in one of these threads earlier. Cant keep track of what where since there are so many of them. Think it was mentioned Allen was asked directly.

Believe that has been clarified as no. And even if it were, then it is on McD to make Allen realize you absolutely cant run there and why. Same as Reid/Mahomes understand, same as Belichick/Brady would have understood.

The only place I'll disagree with you is on the "start building" statement. We arent starting a build. We ARE BUILT. We just need someone to drive this built machine to the top of the mountain. I agree Belichick is too old, but we arent looking for a 10-20 year tenure. Josh is 6 seasons in. He has, what, maybe 6 years left? We need someone who can take us to a Championship in the next 6 years. And the sooner, the better. I pretty much agree on all your other points and reasoning. I think all this talk about changing coaches = full rebuild is completely inaccurate. We're already built. We need some tweaks and additions, sure. The same as if McD stays. But we can change the Coaching staff without much turnover. Just like the Eagles did.

Makes zero sense to demand that in CFB where coaches are no longer recruiting on longevity and culture, and it is just a boosters NIL bidding war. 🤷‍♂️ I think he just wants to secure his kid a job.

I was bored waiting for my burritos...

Not interested in Belichick, but in that mold I AM very interested in Mike Vrabel. edit: And if Daboll gets fired in NY, I am SUPER INTERESTED in bringing Vrabel in as HC and Daboll back as OC. Easy transition for Josh, an upgrade at game managing HC. And I believe the 2 know each other from New England.

And what a line that bolded statement is from a Head Coach. Oh really, Sean? You asked for our "best play"? How genius of you. Thanks for not asking for our 4th best play. Or our worst play. ANYONE could do that. How about YOU tell your staff what our best play is in that situation!?!

All good, you werent really "wrong". It is the OC's call, and it is rare for coaches to step in and change play calls most of the time. But it does happen, and it is on the HC to have his staff prepared for what he wants to do in situations, and be communicating it more when they get into tight spots where the game is on the line.

All of those types of decisions go through the HC. It's the HC's job to own the situational football and be instructing his staff on what he wants to do. They are discussing it in the headsets and he hears the play calls. It's ultimately on him. That is why he gets the title and pay of Head Coach. This isnt about execution (dropped pass), it's about decision making.

Fair and appreciated. And in that same vein, I'm trying hard not to pile on too much considering it was just 1 game while we are already 10-2 and have the Division locked up, and we have seen an overall improvement in his coaching this season up to yesterday. But man, it's frustrating when those same bone-headed moments keep popping back up. While yesterday's coaching debacle doesnt cost us our season, it does likely end our running for the #1 seed. Nothing we can do except get ready for the playoffs and hope (against history) that he has finally learned (not holding my breath).