DrDawkinstein

Yeah I dont disagree with any of this either.

He's very good at catching the ball. Folks just focus on his couple of sure-TD drops from 2-3 years ago instead of all the good catches he has made. But everyone has drops, even the greatest of WRs. He caught the ball a bunch at UGA, and it was one of his features when coming into the pros. He's done it well for us too. This Dallas game from 2023 is the perfect example. He had a banner day, it was a coming out party. This is basically a James Cook highlight reel. He makes a couple of great catches (3:30), and even catches one for a TD (3:50). But late in the game, up big 21-3 thanks to Cook, he drops a sure TD (8:20) and it's all people remember... Also I love posting this because its a fun video for Bills fans.

Depends on how you define "perennial contender". I agree with @MJS and others that he'd be hired right away, and could elevate a bottom-dweller. He wouldve been perfect in Carolina the last couple of years. Weakish division. They'd be in the hunt and favored to take that Division every year, therefore a perennial contender. But that doesnt change anything here, and isnt even relevant to our situation and conversation. McD pretty much admits it himself. The signs all over OBD say "Playoff Caliber". He's never changed them to "Championship Caliber" when that is the current goal.

But to your forebearance point, Harbaugh has won a SB (with Joe Flacco at QB, during the Brady/Manning era) and earned a bit more leeway. The Bills are definitely a very unique situation.

Pretty sure we've made Brady a top paid OC. I dont think it's a spending issue. I think it's more a McD needs to be the biggest fish issue. Brady was specifically the "Passing Game Coordinator" that legendary year at LSU. He ran a pass-happy offense before, and started that way here. But McD wore him down and enforced a run-first, "Complementary" gameplan (aka dont expose the precious defense). We certainly arent going to bring in an experienced DC that runs a different scheme than McD's. No change to a Schwartz/Spags/etc type. Plus those guys could be hired as Interim HC. So aint happening.

I love Cook. It's tough to argue he's absolutely #1 with the year Taylor is having, and it seems Taylor is able to run out of tackles a bit more. But agreed, if he's not #1, he's 1B. Yes, please get him into the passing game more!

No one's angry my man! I thought the original "McD Haters" thread was funny so made the counter point to keep discussion lively. Really ruffled some feathers with my sacrilege because the McD "apologists" apparently take this way more seriously than the "haters"! But it isnt about me. For all the folks Ive so deeply offended, here is the original... I see that as well, and could see him going to Miami.

Yall can get mad at me for starting a thread instead of facing the reality of the question. Go Bills!

I'm not sure he would even take an OC job. He's been there, done that before and it didnt go well. But he knows he's great and valuable as a OL coach.

Doesnt take 5 years. Maybe 1 transition year TOPS. Other good, established teams have already dont this with little to no drop off. This isnt a drought-era team. It's a team with the reigning MVP.

Yeah man, its a message board with a bunch of "friends". I treat it all as a friendly conversation at a tail gate. You also turn these threads into personal discussions about the poster instead of staying on the football topic. Just a simple observation in return.

Dont take it so seriously or personal. Like I've already said, it's a half-joking response to the other thread. Mostly because it's funny when we have multiple variations of the same thread on the front page. This isnt serious business. I was able to reply in the other thread without being so offended. Just have fun.

I cant wait for the day you start a poll. Youre getting so many questions...

I dont think I under or over sell him, I just sell him He's a decent coordinator, and a coach capable of rebuilding a bad culture. He isnt a championship caliber head coach tho. Agreed on the best argument part. After a decade, if you havent gotten it done, the message grows stale. I just meant those type of teams. Not that it was actually going to happen. McD wont be fired this year anyways.

haha Thanks? There should be a little blue Show Results link next to the Submit Vote button.

I also dont think he, or any coach really, can overcome the "South Beach Lifestyle" issue that plagues the Dolphins.

Yeah, Miami and the Jets would be lucky to land him. I always saw him going back to Carolina and returning them to relevancy in that Division.

No arguments by me. This was mostly a half-joking response to the other thread. Again, agreed. McD would be snapped up by some bottom-dweller and he would likely return them to relevancy. That's kinda the point tho. That is his sweet spot. Not winning championships. As the saying goes "McDermott is the type of coach that can get a 3-14 team to the Wild Card. And the type of HC that will take a 14-3 team to the Wild Card"

Johnson, Payton, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Vrabel. All should have been considered. Agreed that there isnt any big name left right now. Best we could do is probably Clint Kubiak, which would be a similar risk as Ben Johnson.

Yeah, and to be clear, I almost dont fault Terry. It's waaaayy easier for us fans to sit here and yell about firing people and rebuilding the entire organization. It's much different to actually do it. And from an Owner's Perspective, I'd rather have an owner that errs to a Steelers/Ravens mindset rather than a Jets/Cowboys mindset. However, I am a fan and not an owner, and I've seen enough!

Well played, sir. Cant argue with that. Go Bills!

You have McDaniel on there twice. Pederson won a SB with a lesser QB. Jacksonville just sucks as an org. No one wants a Saleh or Eberflus. This isnt a bottom-tier job. This is the best opportunity candidates have ever seen.

The question is, are you happy withMcD riding off into the sunset with ZERO?

No Voter ID required. Assume Beane is tied to McD. You can assume either on whether Josh is still playing or not. No answer on whether he goes on to win one, or even with the Bills. All we know for this poll is McD is fired at least a decade into Josh's career with nothing to show for it.

And there you go. You make the best argument against yourself. We're so far into Allen's career and have nothing to show for it, except now a possibly declining Allen. What do you have to lose? NOT making the SB again? Fear isnt a good reason to not try to improve. And I believe the "its a big risk, it could be worse" argument has been thoroughly refuted. Most recently in the "Ben Johnson?!?" thread. @NoSaint did a good job on it around pages 15-16...