DrDawkinstein

And are there high-level meetings involved?

Hey, if I was wrong, I'm wrong. I just read the stats on the main page. I default to Scott.

Learn something new everyday

You'd know better than I would. I'm just going off the stats made available to the public. Maybe the difference is in "traffic" vs "activity"?

TwoBillsDrive.com, a website dedicated to a football team and sports discussion. The Stadium Wall (including sub-boards College Football and OTW): 365,697 posts Politics board, hidden away at the bottom of the list: 736,616 posts Twice the activity. There are some people who come to a football site and have only posted on PPP. I'd say folks here LOVE combining politics with their sports. LOVE IT.

An NFL themed message board which has far more activity in its Politics section than on the main board, even during the season. So yeah, extra weird around here.

Well that's... interesting. Kelly is primarily an estate/divorce lawyer. And is pretty right-wing, gung-ho military. So surprised to see her pop up here.

This dude "Stands for the Anthem"

Pushing Nationalism into the game via military advertising is politicizing it. Players didn't come out for the anthem before the DOD started paying the NFL. Why do we have the anthem before sporting events anyways? Take away all that BS and a lot of the other political stuff goes away.

When everyone you dont like is anti-fascist... maybe youre a fascist.

He's a former 1st round pick in his 4th season and contract year and he managed to finally muster up stats that are basically on par with Oliver's rookie season. He didn't even make the same amount of improvement that Shaq did. Plus, I believe he already has an off-field incident on his record. I certainly hope he is able to turn it around and flourish in a new setting and back under McD, but I'm not expecting too much.

I'm not sure whether Harry or Butler is the bigger unknown right now, but I guess at least Beane has hedged his bets. Butler has been an absolute bust in Carolina. Hoping Buffalo is the change of scenery he needs to resurrect his career (a la Jordan Phillips), but I'm not counting on it. Yep. The value (even just to get a 5th or 6th) is in the trenches. Either O-line or D-line. As it stands we should have extra bodies at both, and that is where Beane has made these trades previously (OL). I'd be surprised if they shipped off any DL players due to the way we rotate. But we should have 1 or 2 extra OL, and maaaaybe 1 DL that could be moved. And that DL could even be Harrison Phillips since he's easiest to move on a rookie contract.

And Butler, no?

Yeah, I get they're not quite there and not even really HD yet (although I think theyre at 720), and my original statement was always "I'll just wait until they release the Holodeck". But the few times I've used the Oculus (Oculi?) it's been pretty fun and amazing. I dont mind being an early adopter when it means it helps fuel the next generation of technology advancement. My main beefs with the Oculus are: I dont give FB any business or access to my life right now and don't plan to ever again, and I already have the PS4 setup and games to play with it.

Not to derail the thread, but it's the offseason... Anyone own a VR rig? Either Oculus, HTC, or PS4? A few friends all own Oculus Quests or Rifts, but I'm leaning towards PS4. Mostly because I already have the PS4 Pro. Almost pulled the trigger on the purchase over the weekend, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm sure they understand that, but they can't say it publicly. Nor should they. Any player who speaks out and suggests another player settles for less money may soon find themselves in the same position. If a player feels that strongly, they are free to take less than they can get, and let it be known. But even that is more frowned upon by other players than holding out would be.

The Rooneys know a thing or two. Compare that with Tunsil taking BOB to the woodshed while acting as his own agent! ?

Exactly, Mike. On the flip side, I was pretty confident Leveon Bell was making a mistake with his holdout in Pittsburgh. As a RB and dealing with the Steelers, it seemed he was already getting the best offer possible. And sure enough, a year later, he took less money to end up with a crappy organization.

IMO, it really depends on the team and the FOs history on how it treats players. But in general, I dont have a problem with players trying to get the most money possible. They're the ones risking their long term health in a very short window to get paid. I also don't think "teammates counting on him" comes into it much. The players know its a business. Given how BOB acts as GM and HC, I have no problem with players doing whatever they can to max their money there (or force a trade). And it didnt really seem like the Texans needed Clowney to make the playoffs anyways.

Oh for sure not arguing your personal preference. Just jumped at the chance to mention Running Down a Dream

It's not surprising to see out of arguably the best managed team in the NFL, and proves why Eric DeCosta earned the "Executive of the Year" award in his first year as GM. Players willing to compromise as well in order to stay with the team. Luckily, Beane doesnt seem too far behind and on the same track. I dont blame any player for trying to milk the maximum out of teams that are run like the Texans. Different story in Baltimore. There is a bigger difference here in GMs than with the players involved.

Not sure this has ever been done before...

White Bronco >>>>>