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Now that we've exercised the 5th year option on Edmunds, we could always tag Hurst next year if we need more time to re-sign him. A 2nd is a bit high for what could possibly be a 1-year rental, but I dont want to throw any long term money at him until we see him perform in our offense. But I also wouldnt hate it if we made the trade and immediately inked him to a 3 year deal.

2022 2nd rounder?

Big successful hits on 3 of 6 picks, and at key NFL positions? That's a solid A.

Interesting. Eagles traded out of 70 Giants jump up to 71 and snag Aaron Robinson, CB, UCF Detroit stays at 72 and picks Alim McNeil, DT, NC State Eagles end up with Milton Williams, DT, Louisiana Tech So I wonder if the crew was upset that a Divisional rival moved up and stole their guy. Or if they really wanted McNeil at DT who went right before their pick, and then settled for Williams. Or both.

Well... unless they negotiate a new, long term deal. 5th year options are now fully guaranteed.

As posted elsewhere, FOUR of our draft picks from this weekend are older than Edmunds. Let's give him all 5 years and see where we're at.

While most of us assumed both of these would happen, it was interesting to keep an eye on and even more so that Beane waited until the very last day to do it. For different reasons. For Josh, good to see it triggered and I expect it will become part of the new deal he is about to sign (this month?). Which will allow us to spread bonus money out over a longer term and reduce the hit. For Tremaine, it gives him some time to fully develop and see where he ends up. I dont expect a 2nd contract for him until at least after this season. If not after his 5th year. edit: words

Yeah, I saw those recent comments too. Those two know a lot, but they are also 90 and 97, and may be all out of "vision" for the future.

While I'm not averse to BTC/Crypto, I think this is a little too "loving" of a summary. It can be called inflation-proof, but it (BTC or any crypto coin really) can be easily manipulated by a few anonymous, foreign, SHADY entities. If anyone doesnt think a huge portion of the BTC market isnt held and controlled by Chinese and Russian criminals, then they are fooling themselves. The biggest issue facing BTC isnt normal economic stuff. It's when the hammer drops on its use in laundering tons of cash for foreign enemies.

Just for some perspective, here is a list of who IS on the Wall currently: https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame For some reason I thought Schobel was already up there. Need to get him, Kyle, and Fred Jackson up. Not a lot of players from the drought years should go up. But I'd give it to those 3 and Jerry.

A year or more ago, I would have agreed with you. But now too many big/REAL players have invested heavily into it. Not just Musk and his personal money. But banks and corporations.

Absolutely.

We traded Stevie to SF in 2014, and I believe that pick was flipped in another trade that involved picks from the Bryce Brown trade.

You guys are hilarious. It's right in the first line that I didnt author this. 🤣

Here's the visual the poster put together. Tell us where it's wrong 🤣

Stealing this post from u/ImJustARandomDude on reddit. Thought it was very interesting to see how one small trade by Doug Whaley could ripple through the NFL for close to a decade after, so wanted to share here... https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/n3h8ar/with_the_new_york_jets_drafting_hamsah/ With The New York Jets Drafting Hamsah Nasirildeen With Pick 186; The Bryce Brown Trade Tree Is Finally Over After 7 Years. For those of you who may vaguely remember former Eagles, Bills and Seahawks running back, Bryce Brown, you may remember that he was traded to the Bills on May 10th, 2014. This trade spurred a tree consisting of all 32 NFL teams and 328 draft picks/players over 7 years. Yes, really. All of these picks are connected and flipped for one another. I did not include players getting traded later on in their careers. (IE Carson Wentz to the Colts) As far as I know this is the largest trade tree of its kind. Here are those picks. Enjoy the chaos. Bryce Brown PHI - BUF 2014 Seantrel Henderson (237) PHI - BUF Beau Allen (224) BUF - PHI Stevie Johnson BUF - SF Kevin Pamphile (149) BUF - TB 2015 Gabe Wright (113) SF - BUF - PHI - DET 2014 Randell Johnson (221) TB - BUF 2015 Grady Jarrett (137) TB - BUF - MIN - ATL 2016 Daryl Worley (77) DET - PHI - CLE - CAR Matt Cassel MIN - BUF Tony Steward (188) MIN - BUF 2016 Alex McCallister (240) BUF - MIN - PHI Stefon Diggs (146) ATL - MIN Tyrus Thompson (185) ATL - MIN 2016 Carson Wentz (2) CLE - PHI 2017 Jehu Chesson (139) CLE - PHI - MIN - KC Jack Conklin (8) MIA - PHI - CLE - TEN Connor Cook (100) TEN - PHI - CLE - OAK 2017 Deshaun Watson (12) PHI - CLE - HOU 2018 Tyquan Lewis (64) PHI - CLE - HOU Byron Maxwell PHI - MIA Kiko Alonso PHI - MIA Laremy Tunsil (13) PHI - MIA Andy Janovich (176) CLE - TEN - DEN Corey Coleman (15) LAR - TEN - CLE Shon Coleman (76) LAR - TEN - CLE (2019 Trade to SF) DeShone Kizer (52) TEN - CLE Zack Sanchez (141) CLE - CAR Cody Kessler (93) CAR - CLE Derrick Kindred (129) CAR - CLE Spencer Drango (168) CAR - CLE Ricardo Louis (114) OAK - CLE Jordan Payton (154) OAK - CLE Demarco Murray PHI - TEN Nick Kwiatkoski (113) PHI - TEN - LAR - CHI Austin Johnson (43) PHI - LAR - TEN Derrick Henry (45) LAR - TEN 2017 Corey Davis (5) LAR - TEN 2017 Jonnu Smith (100) LAR - TEN Jared Goff (1) TEN - LAR Temarrick Hemingway (177) TEN - LAR LeShaun Sims (157) NYJ - TEN - DEN Ryan Clady DEN - NYJ Loc Edwards (235) LAR - HOU - DEN - NYJ 2017 DeAngelo Henderson (203) TEN - DEN Kalan Reed (253) DEN - TEN Pharoh Cooper (117) BUF - CHI - LAR Michael Thomas (206) CAR - CHI - LAR Nick Foles PHI - LAR 2015 Andrew Donnal (119) PHI - LAR Sam Bradford LAR - PHI 2015 Bobby McCain (145) LAR - PHI - MIA Jarran Reed (49) BUF - CHI - SEA 2017 Josh Reynolds (117) BUF - CHI - LAR Jared Allen CHI - CAR Case Keenum HOU - LAR Chris Clark DEN - HOU Reggie Ragland (41) CHI - BUF Cody Whitehair (56) SEA - CHI Deon Bush (124) SEA - CHI 2015 Jordan Phillips (52) PHI - MIA Tony Lippett (156) PHI - MIA Eric Rowe (47) MIA - PHI JaCorey Shepherd (191) MIA - PHI 2016 David Morgan (188) PHI - MIN Blake Countess (196) HOU - NE - MIA - MIN - PHI Stephen Weatherly (227) BAL - MIA - MIN Jakeem Grant (186) MIA - MIN - MIA 2017 Josh Harvey-Clemons (230) PHI - MIN - WAS Donnel Pumphrey (132) KC - MIN - PHI Rodney Adams (170) KC - MIN Danny Isidora (180) KC - MIN Bucky Hodges (201) WAS - MIN Ifeadi Odenigbo (220) SF - WAS - MIN Chase Roullier (199) MIN - WAS Jabrill Peppers (25) HOU - CLE 2018 Denzel Ward (4) HOU - CLE Eddie Jackson (112) LAR - CHI Jeremy Clark (197) ARI - CHI - LAR - NYJ Adam Shaheen (45) ARI - CHI Tarik Cohen (119) ARI - CHI 2018 Joel Iyiegbuniwe ( 115) ARI - CHI Budda Baker (36) CHI - ARI Shalom Luani (221) CHI - ARI - OAK Chad Hansen (141) LAR - NYJ Samson Ebukam (125) TB - NYJ - LAR Kareem Hunt (86) MIA - MIN - KC CJ Beathard (104) KC - MIN - SF Jack Tocho (245) KC - MIN Jaleel Johnson (109) SF - MIN Stacy Coley (219) CLE - SF - MIN Dalvin Cook (41) CIN - MIN Joe Mixon (48) MIN - CLE CIN (shoutout to /u/flagcityhero for catching this) Josh Malone (128) MIA - MIN - CIN Anthony Walker Jr (161) WAS - SF - IND Derek Carrier SF - WAS Joe Williams (121) IND - SF Marlon Mack (143) SF - IND Derrick Jones (204) TB - NYJ Kendell Beckwith (107) NYJ - TB 2016 Quinton Jefferson (147) MIA - NE - SEA Jordan Lucas (204) NE - CHI - NE - MIA Scooby Wright III (250) NE - MIA - CLE Keshawn Martin HOU - NE DJ Reader (166) NE - HOU Devin Lucien (225) DAL - SEA - NE 2017 Deatrich Wise Jr (131) SEA - NE Kenny Lawler (243) HOU - NE - SEA Leonte Carroo (86) MIN - MIA Jon Bostic CHI - NE Martellus Bennett CHI - NE Deiondre Hall (127) NE - CHI Will Davis MIA - BAL Jamar Taylor MIA - CLE Brandon Doughty (223) CLE - MIA Christine Michael SEA - DAL Ryan Mallett NE - HOU 2017 Jylan Ware (231) ARI - OAK Rudy Ford (208) OAK - ARI Andy Lee SF - CLE Chad Thomas (67) IND-CLE Christian Sam (178) IND-CLE-NE Antonio Callaway (105) CHI-NE-CLE Da’Shawn Hand (114) GB-CLE-NE-DET Anthony Miller (51) DET-NE-CHI 2019 Mecole Hardman (56) CHI-NE-LAR-KC Ian Thomas (101) CLE-GB-CAR Cole Madison (138) CLE-GB Demarious Randall GB-CLE Genard Avery (150) GB-CLE 2019 David Montgomery (73) DET-NE-CHI Kerryon Johnson (43) SF-NE-DET Jordan Whitehead (117) DET-NE-TB Micah Kiser (147) MIA-NO-GB-CAR-LAR Oren Burks (88) CAR-GB Greg Robinson LAR-DET Russell Gage (194) DET-LAR-ATL Trey Quinn (256) ATL-WAS Justin Lawler (244) ATL-LAR Brandon Parker (65) CLE-BUF-BAL-OAK Derrick Nnadi (75) OAK-BAL-KC Dane Cruikshank (152) ARI-OAK-BAL-TEN Greg Senat (212) OAK-BAL Jordan Lasley (162) TEN-BAL Bradley Bozeman (215) BAL-TEN-BAL Rashaan Evans (22) KC-BUF-BAL-TEN Tremaine Edmunds (16) BAL-BUF Siran Neal (154) BAL-BUF 2017 Patrick Mahomes (10) BUF-KC 2017 Tre’Davious White (27) KC-BUF 2017 John Johnson III (91) KC-BUF-LAR Hayden Hurst (25) TEN-BAL Avonte Maddox (125) TEN-BAL-PHI Tyrod Taylor BUF-CLE Mark Andrews (86) KC-BAL Kenny Young (122) KC-BAL Lamar Jackson (32) PHI-BAL Jaleel Scott (132) PHI-BAL Kemoko Turay (52) BAL-PHI-IND 2019 Miles Sanders (53) BAL-PHI Dallas Goedert (49) SEA-NYJ-IND-PHI Jordan Wilkins (169) PHI-IND Sam Darnold (3) IND-NYJ Quenton Nelson (6) NYJ-IND Braden Smith (37) NYJ-IND 2019 Rock Ya-Sin (34) NYJ-IND Jermaine Kearse SEA-NYJ Zaire Franklin (235) SEA-NYJ-IND Sheldon Richardson NYJ-SEA David Williams (226) NYJ-SEA-DEN Jimmy Garapollo NE-SF Duke Dawson (56) LAR-BUF-TB-NE Carlton Davis (63) NE-TB Stephone Anthony NO-MIA Marcus Davenport (14) GB-NO Rashaad Penny (27) NO-GB-SEA 2019 Deandre Baker (30) NO-GB-SEA-NYG Josh Allen (7) TB-BUF Austin Proehl (255) TB-BUF Vita Vea (12) CIN-BUF-TB MJ Stewart (53) BUF-TB EJ Gaines LAR-BUF Sammy Watkins BUF-LAR Sebastian Joseph (195) BUF-LAR Jaire Alexander (18) SEA-GB Kendall Donnerson (248) MIN-SEA-GB Mason Rudolph (76) GB-SEA-PIT Jacob Martin (186) GB-SEA Shaun Dion-Hamliton (197) CAR-LAR-WAS Marquis Haynes (136) NE-LAR-CAR Isaiah Wynn (23) LAR-NE Reginald Kahlil McKenzie Jr (198) LAR-NE-KC Brandin Cooks NE-LAR Trevon Young (205) NE-CLE-WAS-LAR Travin Howard (231) WAS-LAR Ray-Ray McCloud (187) CIN-BUF Cordy Glenn BUF-CIN Billy Price (21) BUF-CIN Andrew Brown (158) BUF-CIN Rasheem Green (79) ARI-OAK-PIT-SEA Alex McGough (220) NYG-PIT-SEA Tramaine Brock SEA-MIN Martavis Bryant PIT-OAK Kolton Miller (15) ARI-OAK Josh Rosen (10) OAK-ARI Ross Cockrell PIT-NYG Jason McCourty CLE-NE Danny Etling (219) CLE-NE Simeon Thomas (188) WAS-CLE Kevin Hogan CLE-WAS Jordan Mailata (233)ARI-KC-NE-PHI Keion Crossen (243) TEN-KC-NE Marcus Cooper KC-ARI Ryan Izzo (250) PHI-SEA-NE-SEA-PHI-NE 2019 Dillon Mitchell (239) PHI-NE-MIN David King KC-TEN Michael Dickson (149) WAS-DEN-SEA Troy Fumagali (156) SEA-PHI-SEA-DEN Henry Anderson IND-NYJ Troy Apke (109) SF-DEN-WAS DJ Reed (142) DEN-WAS-SF Tim Settle (163) ATL-DEN-WAS Su’A Cravens WAS-DEN DaeSean Hamilton (113) WAS-DEN Matt Tobin PHI-SEA Marcus Johnson PHI-SEA Michael Bennett SEA-PHI Kapri Bibbs DEN-SF 2017 Trent Taylor (177) DEN-SF Derrius 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KC-SF Nick Scott (243) KC-SF-CLE-NE-LAR Austin Seibert (170) NE-CLE Josh Gordon CLE-NE Golden Tate DET-PHI Cody Barton (88) PHI-DET-MIN-SEA Will Harris (81) MIN-DET Travis Homer (204) NE-DET-MIN-SEA Chuma Edoga (92) KC-SEA-MIN-NYJ Byron Cowart (159) SEA-MIN-NE Demarcus Christmas (209) MIN-SEA Frank Clark SEA-KC Khalen Suanders (84) SEA-KC LJ Collier (29) KC-SEA Miles Boykin (93) NO-NYJ-MIN-BAL Kris Boyd (217) NYJ-MIN Duke Shelley (205) NE-CHI Damien Harris (87) CHI-NE Cameron Smith (162) CHI-NE-LAR-NE-MIN Yodny Cajuste (101) NE-LAR-NE Jarrett Stidham (133) LAR-NE Bobby Evans (97) NE-LAR Joejuan Williams (45) ATL-LAR-NE David Long (79) ATL-LAR Kaleb McGary (31) LAR-ATL Marcus Green (203) LAR-ATL Taylor Rapp (61) KC-LAR Clayton Thorson (167) KC-LAR-NE-PHI Greg Gaines (134) NE-LAR Jake Bailey (163) PHI-NE Javon Patterson (246) NE-PHI-IND Dru Samia (114) GB-SEA-MIN Darnell Savage (21) SEA-GB Greg Little (37) NYG-SEA-CAR Marquise Blair (47) CAR-SEA Gary Jennings (120) MIN-SEA Hassan Ridgeway IND-PHI Johnson Bademosi DET-NE Teddy Bridgewater NYJ-NO Saquan Hampton (177) NYJ-NO Alexander Mattison (102) BAL-MIN Marcus Epps (191) TEN-BAL-MIN Olisaemeka Udoh (193) BAL-MIN Kamalei Correa BAL-TEN 2020 James Morgan (125) CHI-NE-NYJ TJ Brunson (238) NO-NYG Jeremy Chinn (64) KC-SEA-CAR Damien Lewis (69) CAR-SEA Alton Robinson (148) WAS-CAR-SEA Kyle Allen CAR-WAS Cameron Clark (129) NE-BAL-NE-NYJ Dalton Keene (101) SEA-NYJ-NE Darrell Taylor (48) NYJ-SEA Denzel Mims (59) SEA-NYJ Isaiah Hodgins (207) BAL-NE-BUF Justin Madubuike (71) LAC-NE-BAL Josh Uche (60) BAL-NE Malik Harrison (98) NE-BAL Kenneth Murray (23) NE-LAC Kyle Dugger (37) LAC-NE 2019 Jermaine Eluemunor BAL-NE Russell Bodine BUF-NE 2021 Hamsah Nasirildeen (186) NYJ-NE-NYJ If you notice any errors with my work feel free to shoot me a message. This tree is purely, ***** insane. I hope you enjoy. The Chargers were the last team to get involved in the party, joining in when they traded up for Kenneth Murray last year.

I need to know what number Wildgoose is wearing so I can get that ordered asap

In 2011, I was convinced and let the board know it daily, that Von Miller was way too small to play in the NFL; let alone rush the passer against NFL-sized OT who were going to eat him up.

Give me Marvin Wilson in the 3rd and I'm loving the adds across the DL.

I like it. Way different type of player than Rousseau, and can play a few places along the line. Hughes Addison Epenesa Rousseau Basham Let's go! edit: I can see Addison getting cut. Save $4M on the cap. Keep Obada maybe.

After seeing Carolina trade down to 59, I'm kinda bummed Beane didnt pull this off with them. Lot of good value talent went in the top of Round 2.

Maybe. Probably. My time frame wasnt the point. The point was to be patient and ride it out.

Agreed, and that's pretty much what I'm after. Freiermuth and CB2. Or, CB2 and DT-1T. Good to go.

The mere mention of future 1sts kills this discussion immediately. Off the table. Not an option. I wouldnt mind giving up most of the remaining picks this year to move up and get a guy tho. I'd do this: Bills receive Team X (Carolina) receives 39 61 73 93 161 174 213 236