DrDawkinstein

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Well, for 99.9% of its existence, yes, of course it has. Likely still mostly does today. All the way down to the players. Not just the language, but a disregard for players' safety and health, sheltering and protecting domestic abusers, drug dealers, weapons dealers, etc. That is something we have all reconciled and decided to remain fans. But I'm trying to find the hypocrisy in Gruden resigning vs having Eminem/Dr Dre be the halftime entertainment. No one fired Gruden, he was barely ran out, and was even safe after the first round of emails.

Considering Gruden wasnt fired by anyone at the NFL office or the Raiders, but rather chose to leave... Considering the Raiders had all of these emails for at least a week beforehand, and did nothing, letting Gruden coach as recently as 48 hours ago... What exactly has the league done to Gruden that they arent doing to the halftime entertainers?

I had finally just gotten rid of my priapism.

Ok, but if he DID... Eric Washington on staff has some DC experience. But not sure I'm hot on that idea. Any outside candidates?

So the real question becomes... Who replaces Frazier on the Bills staff?

Didnt they just change a rule or policy regarding no interviews during the playoffs at all so SB coaches dont lose out?

Yes, Allen was the only one from the WFT/NFL.

Which question? BA was the one who received these emails. Of course he wasnt going to report him because he's a scumbag too. He's already been ousted tho, so not much left to do.

Propaganda

Speak for yourself. I am not getting canceled. Not ever worried about it either. Another paradox/fallacy to read up on! Youre really nailing them today. Paradox of Tolerance Or else what?

So cancel the NFL? 🙄 Slippery Slope Fallacy

Not rationalizing anything. Simply explaining how the league views it and the obvious differences over what they are ultimately responsible for. You can want to cancel those guys, and everyone else, as much as you want. All good. Probably would do best taking it to twitter if you want real results.

I know you werent defending Gruden. My point is that there really isnt much hypocrisy since Gruden is an NFL employee, face of the franchise, and major decision maker who wields a ton of power across the league. The other guys are just hired help to fill 10 minutes. I used that term on purpose since we are discussing racial issues, and to point out how the League views the entertainers differently than Head Coaches. Good catch. But noted that you are all for pushing cancel culture as far and wide as possible.

I expect more of a buy-out/push-out then any major lawsuit. "Look what we did to Jon Gruden with just a couple emails. Here are piles and piles of evidence showing what a scumbag you are. You can be bought out, take your BILLIONS, and leave. Or it all goes public during trial." Seems pretty easy.

Because they arent hired to be the face of a franchise and top leader of a team. They are there to shuck and jive for 10 minutes and provide minimal entertainment during an intermission when most people tune out. Plus, Gruden was never fired. He was never canned by someone at the League. He chose to leave. Isnt even close to the same thing, and the fact that some people here cant see it is scary/sad. Your guys false equivalencies or whataboutisms arent nearly as smart as you think.

What would he have to gain? He is already sitting on $50M+ The cash isnt worth ruining your reputation for the rest of your life. If he goes away quietly, waits for Urban Meyer to do something else dumb, and comes back slowly and contritely, he could hang out with his buddies again.

Easy. Gruden cashes checks. Snyder signs checks. Goddell works for Snyder, and all the other owners. And the other owners arent going to push the league to go after Snyder because then they open themselves up (Jerry Jones, Irsay, looking at you)

They arent guaranteed if they resign/retire. Davis now has an immediate and legal out. You think that after being shamed out of the league, Gruden would then want to go through a public court battle, demanding he be paid the rest of the contract? Bigoted AND Greedy?! That is a really bad look. All but ensuring he would NEVER work again around the NFL in any capacity. Like I said, they may pay him the rest of this year, but no way does Mark Davis (or any owner) pay 6 out of 10 years and $60M to someone who was run out of the league in disgrace.

Agree to disagree. I dont think he sees another dime going out like this. Maybe the rest of this year, but that is it.

Knowing the history of the Davis family, I'll believe that when I see it.

Rousseau sat out 2020 via COVID rules, allowing him to slip to us. Otherwise he might have put up a big year and gone earlier. Just a silver-lining joke

Thank you, COVID!

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/highest-paid-espn-jon-gruden-report-monday-night-football-jon-gruden-salary ESPN's highest paid employee when he was there at $6.5M/year. Plus the $20M+ from his original coaching stint. Plus the $30M+ he already made on his latest contract. I think I could survive.

And I learned something new today!