DrDawkinstein

There was literally ZERO mob justice here. Gruden was being allowed to keep his job after the first leak (so no mob justice getting him fired). And then he resigned immediately following the 2nd leak, because he knew his relationships with the locker room and his bosses (owners and commish) had been damaged beyond repair. Twitter had zero role in any of this. Any mob crying was ignored on the first leak, and never had a chance to even get started on the 2nd leak. Sometimes accountability is real without your boogey man of "mob justice". Consequences, personal responsibility, and all that.

Wonder how Mitch feels about Josh stealing his award, as Mitch was the ORIGINAL NVP last year. To the point it became a huge meme.

Edmunds. (maybe Klein if he is in to support the run)

If either side is a work email, it isnt a private message. We should all know how this works. If you want to keep stuff private, keep it out of the work servers on either side. There are plenty of other means of communications. Heck, I don't even text much with my brother-in-law because he has a work-paid cell phone. Any dirty jokes or funny memes, I send to my sister's phone and have her show him. That's to protect both of us.

Fair enough. Just discussing since all the different aspects and opinions on this are interesting to me. Go Bills!

It isnt the NFL as a whole. It is releasing the WFT emails that are now being used selectively and arbitrarily by the NFL Office to oust people as they see fit.

Maybe they did but didnt have the platforms or voice to get it accomplished. I'd say the work "attack" is a bit overblown too. Keep in mind that it was NOT Twitter backlash or uproar that ended Gruden. None of that even had a chance to get rolling before he resigned. This was strictly because he 1. lost the locker room, and 2. insulted all the bosses. Accountability and consequences for actions isnt a horrible thing. Ehhh, yes and no. Specifically to this Gruden leak, he is in a direct position to hire staff and make player personnel decisions. So when emails pop up, even from 10+ years ago, talking about which vulnerable groups he doesnt think should be employed... yeah it has bearing on what happens today. After that, he'd never be able to make a cut or a hire that wouldnt get put through the filter of "Is this valid, or just his biases showing up?", and rightfully so. But they are from the WFT office emails. Work emails are never private. They arent releasing someone's gmail account. I mean, you are aware of some of the stuff already confirmed was happening in Snyder's offices. Right?

The opposite is letting the NFL office sit on "ammo" that they can use to blackmail and control and threaten people with releasing if they do not fall in line with their bidding. If they are going to leak emails, they need to release all the emails at once. Rip the band-aid off. It isnt to witch hunt folks, or to cancel as many people as possible, but rather to take that away from the NFL office.

The idea that there is supposed to be some sort of integrity or honor in Sports Reporting is pretty laughable. ALL sports reporting is simply another branch of marketing for leagues, and "news" on a form of entertainment. Always has been, always will be. We're talking about Sports. Not the Government. Not Foreign Wars. Not Labor issues. Not the environment... "Sports". This is like asking what happened to "Music Journalism"? Or "Film Journalism". Who cares. Keep your expectations low.

Whopping Nothingburger here. Common practice and nothing nefarious. In this specific instance.

If accurate, then immediately goes to the top of the list. But are we really counting UDFAs here? Seems more like a discussion around established players who came from other teams. Great suggestion. Tough call (on UDFAs).

Great additions to the list. Milloy and Fitzy for sure.

Great list. I put a line in where I'd separate the candidates for "Best Ever" from a group that is just "very good". Sanders and Beasely could still work their way up, but they need to either string a couple of great seasons together, or make some amazing plays that directly contribute to a Super Bowl victory season.

OOh, good one with Ted. He's up there. Reminds me to throw Sam Adams' name out there. A good one, but likely not "best ever".

Bryce Paup, Takeo Spikes, James Lofton Just off the top of my head for throwing options out there.

Yeah. It's obvious that Gruden didnt get ousted for the bigotry. The League released the emails because he insulted Goodell. The Bud removed him from the Ring because he insulted the owner. He likely resigned because he knew that as a Head Coach, he could not properly do his job when all the bosses were pissed at him, and he would forever be their target. Typical NFL. Absolutely nothing new for the brand.

I think this is what got him ousted from the league more than anything else. The Office could live with the bigotry, but not the shot at Goodell, and this was all a show of power.

Yeah, this was a targeted hit job. And now looking worse...

And Antonio Brown still plays on their team.

Very true. GMFB has hyped up the Bills extensively the last 2 mornings. But at some point, there isnt much else to say. Yes it is easier to tear down. But there is also a lot more to discuss when talking about the losing team and what went wrong and how they can fix it. This board is a great example of that. During the drought years, we had long, deep threads about how to fix the franchise. New HC? Which one? New GM? Which players need replacing? What types of gameplans should they be running instead? etc etc Now that we are winning, the talk doesnt get so deep because it's tough to expand on "Isn't Josh Allen AWESOME?!" "Yeah, he is!"

This. I'll assume no one in this thread has any social media profiles or apps installed on their phones? #DeleteFacebook

Go Bills!

Well, for 99.9% of its existence, yes, of course it has. Likely still mostly does today. All the way down to the players. Not just the language, but a disregard for players' safety and health, sheltering and protecting domestic abusers, drug dealers, weapons dealers, etc. That is something we have all reconciled and decided to remain fans. But I'm trying to find the hypocrisy in Gruden resigning vs having Eminem/Dr Dre be the halftime entertainment. No one fired Gruden, he was barely ran out, and was even safe after the first round of emails.

Considering Gruden wasnt fired by anyone at the NFL office or the Raiders, but rather chose to leave... Considering the Raiders had all of these emails for at least a week beforehand, and did nothing, letting Gruden coach as recently as 48 hours ago... What exactly has the league done to Gruden that they arent doing to the halftime entertainers?