DrDawkinstein

Yes, we used 3 picks, but we got 3 players. How many players did the 9ers get for all those picks? And how many are on the current roster?

I bet once it came down to 2 Divisional rivals, who both like to play fast and loose with picks, Beane noped out quick. That bidding war between Snead and Lynch probably sounded like an auction. But man, if Lynch doesnt get a new deal done...

All great points.

Normally I'd agree, but have you seen the NFC? Outside of Eagles...

Said earlier I'd like to see him end up in SF or LA. I would have liked to get him cheap and if he'd re-sign cheap, but that wasnt in the cards. Moving on!...

IMO, the only way we send a 1st round pick is if a team-friendly extension is already agreed upon and ready to sign. Otherwise, I (and I hope Beane) have no interest in dealing a 1st pick for a 3 month rental. I dont have any interest in sending a 1st for CMC either way really, and I think he's a very good player. If no extension is in place, then best I can do is a 4th and Moss. That's all a $600k 3 month rental is worth to us. edit: And someone asked up-thread why he would take such a pay cut? Well, after the previous 5 years in Carolina and being subjected to that franchise, players are actively taking less to play for our coaches and with Josh Allen, and win a Super Bowl. We are the New Patriots. He already took the $38M in guaranteed money from his big 2nd contract, so he could afford to do a shorter, smaller deal with us. Go get a ring. Stay healthy with a better Strength team and NOT being the entire Offense, and then see what happens from there. I'm all for players making as much money as they possibly can. Just sayin, he may be more interested in the change of culture and winning a SB.

Fair enough. Good point. Thank god the Bills dont make decisions like the Panthers, Browns, and Packers. But if it was for a RB of Chubb's ability I might be more onboard. CMC is no Chubb. To your point, age-wise, Fournette and James Connor are also the same age as CMC and signed for $7M/yr. Guess we'll find out. Exactly. Maybe some team will sign him to a big deal. But it will likely be a bad, poorly-managed team. I dont see Beane spending $12M/yr on an RB with so many other guys coming up.

He doesnt really have a "contract in place". Sure, technically one exists. But there is no guaranteed money left. Meaning, he is one ding away from making $0 for the rest of his life. It also means that his new team could simply cut him at the end of the year and be on the hook for nothing. No dead cap. No anything. The only thing at risk is what the new team pays from him in trade. CMC and his agent know he isnt seeing that $12M/year from anyone. The new team will want a new deal before the trade finalizes. And frankly, so does CMC and his agent in order to protect him long term. As far as the business side of the NFL goes, the remaining 3yr/$36M do not exist. Big statements. Show me one example of a RB signing a 3rd contract worth more than $7M/year. Let alone one with his recent injury history. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/running-back/

I love this family. Stefon, his mom, his brother, and now his Uncle (even if he's fighting with him mom 🤣). All such good, genuine people. Makes me realize why Stefon turned down offers from bigger schools to stay home and help take care of his family after his father passed. LOVE these guys.

Sure. Who knows man. These are all just opinions and they change by the page. We have no idea what the GMs are really thinking. And "cheap" is relative. Leonard Fournette, after helping the Bucs win a Super Bowl, only got 3/$21M. Melvin Gordon got 2/$16M Most RB 3rd contracts are super low regardless of how heralded the RB is. Luckily the GMs arent using my off the cuff remarks to base deals around. 🤣 $12M/yr is absolutely no where near RBs' 3rd+ contracts. Send me some links on that if you have better examples than mine in Fournette and Gordon (I was looking for "big name" productive RBs getting their 3rd contract). CMC does not have 3/$36M to negotiate from. He has nothing but what he thinks he's worth or is wiling to take. He would cost us $600k this year, and then could be cut and get $0 next year, and count $0 on our cap.

Luckily, what the fan base says doesnt mean jack squat.

I dont disagree, but it is their only hope. They are stuck with that contract so they have to try something. Ha! I think that deal is donzo. (Thank you, Bill Belichick!)

But the $12M salary is irrelevant. His potential salary is $0 with no guaranteed money remaining. There is no reason to base anything off $12M. It's easier to simply start from scratch. Pretend his contract is up after this year. That is the reality that everyone is facing. Just start fresh and offer him 3/$15M with $10M guaranteed. Sure we both end up in about the same place, but the way we get there is different. Forget what the current contract says and reset by his actual value.

I dont disagree, but... They have the small benefit of "new owneership". New owner with deep pockets can come in, say evrything is in the past and they are changing the culture, and write a big check to Payton (or the like).

Denver's only hope is to clean house on the coaching staff (I guess they want to keep the DC tho), and bring in a new HC who has a ton of experience. Only person I can think of is Sean Payton. The Broncos are stuck with Wilson and that contract for at least 4-6 years. Hackett will NEVER get him right.

As far as what teams will use in negotiations in Free Agency. He certainly isnt going to get the ridiculous $12M/yr that Carolina was dumb enough to sign him to. Doesnt mean he cant play at all, or isnt good. It's just the market.

All accurate but I'm curious where he is getting such an exact figure of $4.8M. There is no guaranteed money, so it can be restructured to anything. Could be $3M if CMC would agree to it. There is no floor other than what CMC will agree to, as far as I know.

Ehh, still tough with a Tag number of $18.7M

Just curious. I like this number, but where are you getting it from?

CMC? His contract can be restructured to be whatever we want next year (that he'll agree to obviously). There is no guaranteed money left, so if he is cut he earns nothing until he gets another deal. And an aging, injured RB is not making more than $5M on the open market. He becomes real cheap, actually. We could probably restructure him, and extend Poyer, and extend Oliver. The toughest one is Edmunds considering his market value will be around $18M-20M, and that is a LOT to eat for a guy we were unsure on going into this season.

Right now, I'm hoping CMC goes to SF or LA. edit: Sorry @Sherlock Holmes. But, hey, if he is in SF maybe your chances go up?

I havent watched the full clip yet, but the out takes were funny in the 1min tweet.

That's how I see it as well. The 9ers dont really have a shot when you consider it is Mahomes vs Jimmy G at QB. No way Jimmy keeps up with the other offense.

This is actually the funniest, least cringey thing I've seen him do so far. So that's where we are at.