DrDawkinstein

You are conflating the issue of determining Forward Progress, with this non-issue, basic play of pushing a pile on a running play that has been part of the game since its inception. Forward Progress is a different issue and highly subjective. The idea or act of pushing a runner, isnt. We want to stop them? Then stop them.

Correct rugby term is "Maul", thank you very much!

Keep it legal. It reminds me of the old Rugby days. Ground and pound. Old school football.

Lamar ends up in Atlanta. You heard it hear first. Looking like Roman is finally getting a HC nod and heading back to Stanford. Will be interesting to see what that does to the Ravens and their plans.

He knows that there is no easier way to generate a lot of traffic than to throw shade at Buffalo. Bills Mafia falls for it, gets all in a huff, and lights up his feeds. Generating all that sweet click revenue. It's just baiting at this point.

I'm not sure that was true. IIRC, Darnold was the #1 prospect, and Cleveland surprised the world by going with Baker. I think a lot of folks even had Rosen over Mayfield. But... Browns gonna Brown. I would pay good money for the PPV stream to witness meetings in that QB room between Wilson and Mayfield.

Just saw a tweet, whoever picks him up would be on the hook for $1.3M this year. And it's the last year of the contract.

Maybe Texans should stay away if he's another one of those guys.

Good points about Houston. Having the #1 pick changes things, for sure. I guess they could bring him in now to get familiar, re-sign him to a cheap deal, and have him around so the rookie isnt forced into action too quickly. The rest of that team stinks so they have a lot of building to do before any rookie QB would stand a chance of surviving. Mayfield could be that bridge, and compete. But good points.

Remember, a lot of his salary was handled by Cleveland this year in order to trade him: "Mayfield’s deal, which runs through the upcoming 2022 campaign, is worth a total of $18.8 million. Of that total, the Browns have agreed to pay $10.5 million with the Panthers footing just $5 million of his base salary. The remaining $3.5 million, as agreed upon by Baker himself, has been trimmed per Mike Garofolo." So I believe, at most, teams would be on the hook for whatever little amount remains of that $5M. We're well past halfway of the season, so you're looking at like $1.5-2M tops. Probably wont sign a QB for any less than that.

Does "nice" factor in "annoying" or "obnoxious"? Because if @boyst, @Royale with Cheese, and I heard "DUUUUUUVAAALLLLLLL WELCOME TO SACKSONVILLE" shouted into the back of our heads one more time, dude was about to get punched.

For the Colts and Texans, I see it being more of a move for next year. See what he has, and if they want to make him an offer to extend/re-sign.

He can be a good game manager, and at least give defenses more to worry about than a rookie Mr Irrelevant. SF already survived a mini-QB Controversy that fixed itself once Lance got injured. Now they have to deal with the other guy going down. They have to bring someone in to backup Purdy at the very least. I think their locker room could manage dealing with bringing Mayfield in late.

Classic Browns. Ruining careers since... well, pretty much forever.

Because they need a QB and this is a great way to get him in the building and see where he is at, and if it works out, try to sign him to an extension before Free Agency. Even if he doesnt play much, at least the staff gets a look at him.

Between who? Every team in the league on the waiver wire? Texans should take a shot at him. He's a Texas boy, and from what I saw him give to the community in Cleveland, would probably do a lot to help heal the Texans image with the fans too.

I was never a Mayfield fan or believer, but it sucks to see him get done so dirty by the Browns that if effectively ruins any shot at a pro career. I'd almost feel bad, if he didnt already have millions of dollars to fall back on.

So little that he is irrelevant to the conversation. Edmunds and the current market are so far beyond what Milano, the minimalist, took that it makes any comparison invalid. Milano bucked the market and settled for $10M/yr which was low even then.

I see that too, and agree. It was a sweet move by Diggs to get those hands away. But when you end up shoving the player to the ground due to winning the hand fighting, youre gonna get that flag.

The OPI call was legit. He pushed/threw the DB a good 3 yards. I was worried at that time because Hochuli Jr has screwed us in the past. But I think it was a pretty well-called game the rest of the way. Our first win with the Hochuli Jr crew.

I'd love to get him for under $15M/yr but that is just wishful thinking. I think his open market value is $18-20M/yr, so I'll be happy if he takes a team-friendly deal at like $16M/yr.

I would personally get more enjoyment from the Dolphins loss, but we have the ability to give the Dolphins another loss ourselves. We need outside forces to help us with the Chiefs, so for that alone, I voted Chiefs.

I was just about to ask if the mods could pin a 49ers/Dolphin thread. That one should be a better game, and more meaningful to us.

"I'm giving my tickets to coworkers, and going home to fight with my wife!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Or your internet provider, and your neighborhood network is getting saturated during the game, and then people pause or turn off during commercials. Havent had a single blip on TNF all season here.