DrDawkinstein

The entire crux of the hold up was Jackson demanding a fully guaranteed contract. He caved. The deal he signed, while a bit higher than the last offer due to other new contracts in the market, is the exact structure the Ravens wanted all along. Jackson could have had this contract whenever he wanted. He didnt need to do any of this over the last 2 years. Likely cost the Ravens a playoff win last year over it.

Have other big time QBs held out in the early-middle part of their deal and demanded a new deal before? Trying to think of examples...

That's what folks have been trying to get through to him for months!

I'm fine if Dhop goes there. Anywhere but KC.

What time is the next cut down?

If you guys are fans, there is an excellent Vonnegut documentary on Hulu right now. It's everything I always hoped for/to know. And the coolest part is the opening scene, one of his speaking appearances, takes place in Buffalo in the early 80s.

No one on this board has experience being told anything was "too large". Good luck. you dastardly sonofa...

All good on the trade back. Just funny because everyone used to give BB ***** for all his trade backs, but it's tough sitting in the high 20s and having to pick non-1st round guys in the 1st round. Was always waiting for him to complete the ultimate trade back series and end up with every pick of the 7th round. As far as LBs are concerned, I'm not in love with Campbell. But I'd take any of Campbell/Simpson/Sanders here, and address OL next. I agree that none of the players are jumping off the page or that special, so I'm just filling roster holes at this point.

Have we turned into Belichick so quickly?

Those were great days in my early 20s. Wake up, go right to the couch to turn on Draft coverage, order pizzas and wings at 10am, and settle in for the 48 hour marathon.

Specific player aside, we're currently looking at: MLB - 20 votes OT - 15 votes DT - 14 votes IOL - 11 votes WR - 9 votes Interesting. Didnt think LBs would score that high. Speaking that generally, I'd like to go OL (any OG/C/OT) at 34, then shift to defense at 59. Given the LBs and DTs left, we should be able to snag one there... EDIT: I take that last line back and am changing my vote. I think the LBs would both go between 34 and 59. So take one now. There will be OL available at 59. If not the OTs then there should be plenty of decent IOL to still choose from. Might even be able to get IOL in the 3rd. I'm going LB now.

That's right. That is my opinion and the way I'm voting in this completely meaningless exercise. RT wont matter when we cant even get the ball to Josh. Maybe the new RT will be good at jumping on the fumbled ball rolling around.

I dont want another "fill in" who cant get the snap to Josh as we're shuffling other guys out of position as well. I want to get Josh his new butt-buddy so they can build the familiarity asap, and have his one bum to touch for the rest of his career. RT is also a need, yes.

Great story. Love me some Kurt Vonnegut. Also a great Snapcase song (some love for our local Buffalo boys!) I voted JMS. I'd put good money on the Bills needing a new starting Center by week 6 of this year. Morse has been running on borrowed time for 2 years already.

Anyone from the last poll not picked yet (cough cough, JMS). Probably the LBs and any DTs left. Will take a look at specifics in a sec...

Ah, good call. I missed that @Beast made that first pick, and had since been fired, and you are actually the interim GM I was referring to. That makes more sense

Bad news. You arent able to make this 2nd round pick since every Yinzer in Western PA ran you out of town after you passed on Joey Porter Jr in the 1st round. Steelers are now going with an interim GM.

Ed is set to cost us $10M this year. DHOP's current contract would hit us for $19.5M. So at face value, a $9.5M add. But folks assume we could get Arizona to eat some of that. Either all $9.5M, or some portion. But if not, its a $9.5M additional cost to us.

Right. And since most of this discussion, regarding a message board's choice for the Bills in the 3rd version mock drafts, is just for ***** and giggles, I am obviously being a bit cheeky on purpose.

True, good point. I dunno. Most years prior I've been saying he is by far the #1 WR in the league. He's fallen off a little as new blood comes in, but he could definitely help get us to the promise land.

The other downside of that trade is by trading out of the 1st round, we lose the 5th year option on whoever we were going to draft. Could make a major difference in cap in a few years, and DHOP will likely be retired then.

If Van Ness was such a step up, he wouldnt be available at 27. Or even past 15.

The reality of it is, we've heard from multiple sources that there are only ~15 players with 1st round grades in this draft. That's pretty agreed upon across the board. Picking at 27, no matter WHO we draft, will be a reach and a pick that lots of folks will be able to easily find fault with. And if there is such low talent, it will guarantee that no one wants to move up so we can trade back. We just need to prepare ourselves for a lackluster 1st round pick.

Same reel. Like right down to the blocked punts.

Folks can change their votes whenever they want. And will likely need to again after Virgil whittles down the options. It is interesting that there are 2 "trade" options and if combined, are the runaway winners. I hope we dont see that vote split and it go to Flowers if the majority actually want to trade back one way or another. Stop the steal.