DrDawkinstein

That's a bummer. We could use him. Had the price about right for a 6th (plus some change)

Which means trading for another WR is even a BIGGER waste Plenty to cover his salary this year. There will be lots of changes next year. Tre White, Poyer, Hyde, Morse, plus others will likely/could be gone and cap savings on each. It's #2 by committee. Kincaid is going to be the real #2 anyways. So we're really talking #3 and #4 WR. Shakir and Davis are good enough for that. Bringing in others isnt going to change much on Offense. If Dorsey and Josh can pull that off consistently, we'll be undefeated.

Fair and accurate. The point was that the talks with Wallace fell apart because Beane focused on McKissic. Had McKissic not agreed, Beane would have used that money to match or beat Pitt's offer. Beane said it.

Disagree. The talent is there. It's up to Dorsey and Allen to use them. As evidence by the performance of Davis, Shakir, and Kincaid last game. Any and all of those guys can and should be our #2. And #3. And #4.

Johnson for Elam+2nd Wallace for a 6th. Still have 1, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

That was the McKissic/Commanders/Rivera drama with Beane and the Bills. Beane put his talks with Wallace on hold to try to get some Offensive help, and was working a deal with McKissic. When McKissic agreed, Beane slated that money for McKissic and dropped the Wallace talks and he got scooped by Pittsburgh. Then at the last second, McKissic's camp goes back to the Commanders FO who decide to match our offer, and McKissic decides to stay in Washington. Beane was PISSED. Angriest I've ever seen him at a presser, which isnt saying much, but seeing anything from him made it clear it was a big deal.

I'd honestly be fine with getting both.

The Bills leaking it to the media and then their local podcaster scene, with the threat of having to stay in Chicago, is great strategy for bringing his price down.

And I guarantee it was a team that leaked that to the media

I've seen a lot of people say this, and I get where you all are coming from. But the more I think about it every time I see it, I'm starting to think it really COULD be the difference. It's about defending the pass nowadays, we all know that. And adding a new #1 CB will make a much bigger difference than adding a #3. And if they can move the needle just a bit on a defense that has been performing well amidst our offensive struggles, then yeah, this could be a key piece to a championship.

I dont want to know what his candle will smell like

It seems to be a mystery to me as well. Until I realize, it's the Bears.

One small nit: Smith did not have a deal in place at time of trade. He was traded at the deadline, and did not sign his new contract until January. And that was with having to deal with Smith's non-certified "agent" Saint Omni, and getting past that. My point is, it's possible to get it done later.

Imagine if our offer includes AJ Klein again 🤣

You arent going to get him from the Bears for what he's worth on just the rental contract, so signing him to an extension is assumed, and his trade price will reflect that no matter what. So it sweetens the deal for the Bears. Maybe make it two 3rds, 2024 conditional to a 2nd if/when he signs an extension, and the 2025 pick goes away on the extension as well. Either way, gotta juice it up so the Bears feel like they are getting a lot no matter what.

Elam and two 3rds. With the 2024 3rd being conditional to a 2nd if we sign him to a long term deal, and the 2025 3rd conditional to a 2nd based on crazy (unlikely) stats. Final offer

When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us! Gir R Dun!

Adams to 9ers and Johnson to Bills both make a lot of sense. Which means neither will happen.

Considering that most thrift shops have gone fully mainstream/commercial and are no longer the great places to find deals that they once were, I'm confident you will be able to spend that money. Most items we see at Goodwill now are priced as if they were BRAND NEW. It's ridiculous. I'm sure some decent stores still exist out there, but long gone are the days of finding a haul of vintage Tshirts and Button-downs for $10-20 total. Now, every item is $20 itself. Keep me posted on how it goes in your area!

I was torn between Clements and Winfield. Voted Clements just because. How soon? It's been 50 years since he made a pro bowl!

Competently corrupt then.

Plus, Johnson played at Utah, and Beane loves him some players from Utah. Git r Dun

Good point. The 3rd round Comp Pick would be 2025.

I agree that would likely be the best move for the franchise in a vacuum. I'm just not sure the Bears want to deal with an unhappy Tagged player who absolutely does NOT want to be there and will likely hold out and be a distraction all offseason, on top of all the other culture issues and drama they are facing as a losing team. I think they'd be very motivated to get something for him and move on. But it's also the Bears, so who knows...

I can, since it is by far our biggest need, and Beane has never shied away from making double picks. At least, he better.