DrDawkinstein

I think asking the question is a fun exercise and good discussion. I'm interested if anyone brings up any unknown names. But I agree, asking the question to refute the idea of firing the coach is not a good argument since us commoners dont have all the information the owner and his consultants have. That said, Head Coach is a tough one. Not many decent candidates out there as it seems the NFL has stripped the Shanahan/McVay tree of everyone serviceable over the last 5 years. When Eric Bienemy is the best known name out there, that's tough.

Dorsey was the main one behind it, by continuing to trot out a predictable, bumbling, pop warner level Offense. Watching that Denver game, it was clear as day. After weeks of floundering and an offensive players meeting, this was the make or break week to turn it around. Go out there, start fast, and show us you can run an offense like a half-competent professional. Nope! Had to go. So Dorsey did this to himself. The fans and media were all over it. McD saw the need to change. And Terry signed off on it. The best team work Dorsey has managed to produce in his short tenure.

Yes, let's move on. From the Bills. Perfect timing going into the holiday season for the Bills to bring me back to that familiar territory of checking out in mid-November. I recognize this feeling from the -00s. Will be focusing on getting the house/yard ready for winter this weekend. See you at the draft, Bills.

Funny you mention a coach-for-coach trade. I was just thinking last night if we could pull one off with the Giants. They get McD who is good for fixing a bottom-5 team. We get Dabol who our players love and would fix our offense. Git r dun

Thank you, Jimmy Haslam, for giving me something to laugh at no matter how bad things get with the Bills.

Mahomes has no alternatives, and Cincy's WR setup is unheard of anywhere else around the league, and will soon be over as soon as they have to pay Higgins. They have top notch Offensive coaching that schemes guys open and innovates new plays. Biggest difference.

The coaching makes a bigger difference than the weapons, as evidenced by KC's #1 WR being an elderly Tight End.

Oh they/McD definitely are on the hot seat. But after this I dont expect any other changes until the offseason.

5'6". He's LISTED at 5'6" where they always err to make a player look better. And we have him running an intermediate/deep out at the boundary... Complete incompetence in personnel usage and play design.

I dont think any reasonable Bills fan is expecting a midstream turnaround by an interim OC. I expect the offense to look similar to what we've seen. But I do expect/want to see our execution and engagement to improve. Do the guys look focused? Do they look like they're having fun? Or at least look like they want to be there? The rest is all fluff to get us through the rest of this season so we can re-tool in the offseason.

They reined him in exactly like they wanted to. It's made him worse. It's like trying to keep a Great White shark in captivity. It's never worked.

Agreed 100% The legend of Josh hiring Dorsey is right up there with the legend of Josh knocking up a bartender in things that never happened. Did they consult their $250M man to make sure he was onboard and bought in at the time? Absolutely. Did he have the power to strongly influence the hiring decisions? Probably not.

Special Teams was the 1st to get scapegoated after 13 seconds. The current group will be gone soon enough, once McD is canned after the season.

When its, as you point out, the entire team not executing - that is on coaching.

Allen is a problem right now. Yes. But because he is being mismanaged, being asked to play in a style that doesnt fit him, and is asked to execute plays that the Defense knows are coming. That can all be fixed with a coaching change, not a QB change.

We'll have the same problem with having good OCs since they are the first to get hired to HC spots. Which is exactly what happened to Dabol.

I'd argue McD makes it even more attractive since he is on the hot seat and the next logical step would be promoting a successful OC to HC.

He chose McDermott on his first "real" try. The good news is, unlike Hockey, Pegula knows he is in over his head with Football/NFL and wont be doing the search himself. He hired consultants to identify candidates and used that service, and some advice from Whaley, to choose McD. I'm confident that same service and Beane can find someone.

The GM has no say in HC/Coaching decisions. The HC reports directly to Terry. The GM reports directly to Terry. It was the same for Whaley and Rex. This is how Pegula structures his operation. (Personally not a fan)

Ha, fair enough. I was focused on the originally bolded parts of "and he kept hammering those same calls every game! He was incapable of self-evaluating and saying "well this play hasn't worked for the guys on the field""

There was a lot wrong with the mental makeup of the team. You did not sense that "Josh's fiance found out about him knocking up a waitress". You sensed that the team was emotionally exhausted, not having any fun, had been for weeks, and the coaches not only couldnt pull them out of it, but couldnt even get them prepared for the game to be wearing the correct cleats!

I actually thought we might name him Interim HC if Terry cleaned house this morning. Shula has enough experience to be interim CEO and handle the details. Brady to OC Bobby Babich to DC Oh well, at least we got Dorsey out.

But the conversation wasnt around Interceptions. The quote you responded to asking for examples was regarding Dorsey insisting on running plays and concepts that consistently fail.

No, it's all BS. It's boring in Buffalo and this is what the fans up there do in their free time.

True, but there are solutions around as you mentioned. I'm giving AJE and Floyd some of the money that was going to Tre, Poyer, etc. At CB, we can get by with Douglas and Benford, but Douglas is already up there in years, and could possibly shift to Safety.