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Was he responsible for the entire decade? No, but he was a big part of it. His drafts were disasters. Only 1 of the 7 players he drafted in rounds 1-3 are still on the team and that player, McCargo, is a bust who is iffy to even stay make the roster. Passing over Ngata for Whitner was a harbinger of the poor decision he made hiring Jauron from the Matt Millen managed Detroit Lions. Jauron had a big hand in the pathetic drafts of 2008 and 2009, so Marv's biggest decision, picking a head coach, had horrible consequences long after he left. Marv Levy wasn't responsible for the entire decade. It is right to respect him for what he did as a coach in getting this team to 4 consecutive Super Bowl appearances, but he was a disaster as a GM.

How about a safety? Have to replace Donte somehow.

Detroit has had a few good drafts under its belt since they fired Matt Millen. They are a team on the rise. I'd expect Washington to be a bit less of a circus without Haynesworth, but not a huge improvement. Don't know enough about what the other teams have done.

Oh I'd say Ted Washington was a pretty big part of the base. The Bills have a history of drafting poorly and then not keeping what the few players who actually show good talent. As long as that continues, this team will struggle to maintain mediocrity. I don't see how such a talent poor team so far under the cap can so undervalue a means of obtaining talent.

More than we've even played in since they left.

If the Bills had always taken this approach, we never would have had Ted Washington, Chris Spielman, Bryce Paup or Takeo Spikes, just to name a few.

Fletcher is a team leader that stays on the field. Poz is not a team leader and is injury prone.

I guess that might be important if the Bills were on the verge of greatness this year, but they are not. If there was a franchise QB available, they should have grabbed him. Even the best available ones had huge question marks this year.

So what is the point of scouting southern high schools instead of colleges in the north and west? To avoid 1st round busts?

So it is a good thing that the Bills were so easy to score against, otherwise Spiller couldn't rack up those returning yards?

Actually I was going by rushing yards, number of carries, yards per carry, longest play from scrimmage, TDs, and games started. I don't see how that crumbles.

So far Ryan Mathews is looking better than CJ Spiller.

Anyone who wouldn't draft any of those players has no business running an NFL team. Most of those players went to high school in the same state as the college they attended.

Hasn't Spider-Man been canceled yet?

I would say that the expectations for Locker are far lower than for Leaf. If you can set aside the regional issue, I'd say that Luck is more similar to Manning that to Leaf. He could have cashed in but stayed in college to get an education and further develop as a player. I'm not sure what you consider to be the South East. Where are the dividing lines? South of the Mason Dixon line and east of the Mississippi? If so, Houston is in the west. Here are some people that you would not consider based on your regional approach. Tom Brady Drew Brees Sam Bradford Ndamukong Suh Brian Orakpo Clay Mathews Darrelle Revis Haloti Ngata Nick Mangold Ben Roethlisberger Larry Fiztgerald Dwight Freeney Pat Williams Tony Boselli Orlando Pace Thurman Thomas Andre Reed Barry Sanders Steve Young Dan Marino John Elway Joe Montana OJ Simpson Sounds like a good plan?

That Andrew Luck guy can't play. He plays out West. :wallbash:

Plenty of teams have won with the 4-3. If you don't have the right talent, your scheme doesn't matter. When you draft the Donte Whitners of the world over Haloti Ngatas, the Aaron Maybins over the Brian Orakpos or draft John McCargos, it doesn't matter what your scheme is, you are going to suck.

As illustrated by Olof Pilar.

Why not fit the scheme to the players they inherited and draft accordingly?

Didn't make it because of the 3-4 did he? Didn't they mostly switch back to the 4-3? And to reiterate, I am doubting the point that some of you make that this staff is soooo great because they don't choose players simply because they fit a scheme. Looking at the drafts over the last 2 years they do indeed choose players simply because they fit a particular scheme. They then ditch the scheme after if becomes an obvious abject failure. You could make the same statement about QBs and directors of college scouting.

So now we are supposed to give them credit because after announcing they were going to the 3-4, leading to the retirement of Aaron Schobel, they switched back after a disastrous opening month?? :wallbash: The players we had weren't world beaters but why create more holes when you already have more holes than you can fill? One thing that pisses me off is the one really good player we had, Kyle Williams, is a 4-3 DT. He is not a 3-4 NT. Why take him out of the system that suites him?

Bryant McKinnie. He was available, we had a need at left tackle, he played left tackle and was probably the safer pick. Yeah right, so that is why they went to a 3-4 even though the players they had were better suited for the 4-3.

So as long as they get their butt on the field for a few plays they aren't a bust? Whitner was a bust because we were in need of help on the defensive line. Nagata was their for the taking. He would have gotten his butt on the field so by your standards, he would not be a bust. But nooooooo, the Bills brain trust decided the best way to build a defense was from the safety position forward. That draft alone should have been enough to seal the fate of Marv, DJ and Modrak.

What was last year? A Buddy Nix draft or a Modrak draft?

Such as?? What am I missing on my Droid that is so great on the Iphone? Comparing apps with my sister or my co-worker hasn't convinced me I missing much of anything. What additional fee in necessary if you root the phone?