Casey D

I think if they win the division they will not be one and done. But I'd rather win the division and lose than not make the playoffs or be a wild card. One step at a time.

Bowles just said both are out for Sunday, but trending OK.

I will.

You don't win a SB in November. They have done enough the last five years to make me give them the benefit of the doubt even after that debacle in Miami. They may disappoint me, but as a Bills fan for over 50 years disappointment is a dear friend. I'll let this play out, like I did after the awful wind game in 2021. And even if this is not their year, with Allen this team will always have a chance, if we can add the right pieces in the off season, either with this regime or another. The re-ascendancy of the Pats-- which was unexpected this year and makes it somewhat traumatic-- is just another team to beat like the Chiefs (although they have done nothing yet to make them anywhere near as dangerous). It's just competition, and at the end that's what makes it fun, notwithstanding the Patriot PTSD.

I don't think so. The Bills played a bad game. The average fan is not nearly as vested as you and others here who always want to fire everyone when anything goes wrong. Bills fans are durable. No booing unless the Bills really stink throughout the game like a week ago, then maybe.

Did not say that. Continue the hyperbole.

The look on Allen's face or All-22-- which to believe. Hmm.

Who said the sky was falling. They can right the ship, they did it after the bye. Just breaking down WTF happened.

OK.. When Josh is playing in-system, the passing game can be a solid B. When he does not, it is a D. No A grade because of limitations in the receiving corps, but when it is at below B, some of the fault lies with Josh. And it seems the further below a B it is, the more it is Josh not playing up to his standards, not because the receivers just suck. Agree?

That would be wrong. This team is nothing without Josh. The common thread is Josh is fine and everyone is covered because the receivers suck. That is not entirely true. Simple answers are often wrong. Varsity Blues?

His scheme CAN be sound but he makes some dumb decisions too. And the WR are not great, but the easy and wrong answer is that they are so bad the offense cannot have an effective passing game. It can if Allen plays within himself and the system. Not really depressing at all.

But that take is just wrong if you look at the All-22. Everyone wants to blame the receivers-- and that is now gospel that they suck-- but they are hardly all of the problem. Josh had plays with easy throws to open guys for first downs--looking right at them-- and did not make the throw. Inexplicable.

https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/article_21980ceb-bcfc-4e60-a920-42fc17996fcc.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share Scathing analysis-- "While this game was difficult to watch, I hadn't anticipated the depth of trouble." I cannot do the analysis justice because there is so much, but I will highlight: Brady Game Plan-- Seemed to want to prove the Bills could throw the ball around the field instead of sticking to what worked against KC-- use Cook. But overall, there were lots of plays that could have been made, but Allen inexplicably did not execute. Allen-- "Allen's performance was below anything I've graded in his career." It was mind boggling. Terrible reads, passing over open receivers he was looking at, and simply not staying in-system. On the end zone pic, the play call was perfect against Cover 0, he had three good options but took none of the, and on option 4 he threw a terrible pass to Shavers. Josh's mind was clearly elsewhere on Sunday. O-Line-- Terrible lack of effort and execution. McGovern simply whiffed on blocks, and Dawkins looked like he could give a s$$t on some plays. No wonder Cook had some trouble running. Offensive miscues crush D late-- After Allen's fumble which basically ended the game. The D then collapsed. Not an excuse, simply a fact according to Kubiak. Kubiak's conclusion is better than anything I can paraphrase: "[All-22] reveals more examples of poor execution and effort from Bills offense. There was a lack of desire and ferocity, a lack of mental focus, and a lack of guardrails to keep Allen within the contours of his responsibility on each play." Read it and weep. Behind BN paywall.

Who cares? And besides. the odds of KC/Bills meeting again this year is passingly small as one or both will likely not make the playoffs and if they do they likely would not meet until very late. Giants fan-- ha.

How can you possibly understand any of that? That is just a bunch of stuff you made up in your head. You have no idea about what is going on behind closed doors.