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Right everyone expects a clean 1,000 yard rookie who’s 6’3 210 pounds that runs a 4.3 who produced 3 years in college and expect them at 28 with no flaws. Rookie will be lucky to have 50 catches for 7-800 yards rookie year with the weapons the Bills have and yes they still have good weapons after Davis and Diggs departed

he had Ryan Hilinski who wasn’t good and Rattler for two years. Bad QB play plays a part but 700 yards bad in 4 years? I bring this up a lot tho. If Qzb play was so bad than why did Juice Wells crush it with they same QB play

Did I say he’s my guy? I just said the tea leaves would indicate it. Hes their type of player. I’m an FSU fan I’ve watched him a ton this past year. He’s a leader, a good blocker, a big bodied WR, gives maximal effort( all traits the Bills love). Beane while talking about explosive plays the previous two years talked about YAC something Coleman does really well. FSUs offense did him very few favors this year despite being 13-0. FSU ran go routes with Coleman and Wilson all the time and abandoned the middle of the field for long portions of games. I don’t know the reason for that was it because Jordan Travis felt comfortable with that stuff? Was it because they just had two big WRs who they felt could win? If you ran go routes all the time don’t you think DBs and coaches would catch on to that which might mitigate his ability to separate?

Gee I speculated this weeks ago as a guy who used to work in college football. Highly athletic specimens don’t flounder for 4 years unless unless their dumb or they have a crappy attitude

Visits, YAC ability, biggest WR in the first two rounds, very willing blocker, gives maximum effort all the time, type of person they draft. Coleman is a very explosive player and plays faster than his 40 time. He’s a high level two sport athlete. Too many people are pegging him on the 4.6 40 but got up to 21 MPH in his gauntlet drill

I just don’t think he’ll be there. I think the WRs with special traits are gonna go but it would be interesting to watch him with Allen for sure

The way the tea leaves are trending imo are Troy Franklin or Keon Coleman. I know that’s not popular around here nor am I saying they’ll be the pick at 28 but that’s the way it looking to me. There has been no indication of a private workout or top 30 visit with Legette to this point which doesn’t disqualify but I have to think they would bring in every WR they were severely interested in. Maybe it leaks out that they did bring him in

Yup also a good call on Devonshire have to assume Pitt is since PSU was a couple years ago

Good catch wasn’t sure if he was a FA or draft prospect

So running down the list: 1. Marshawn Kneeland DT WMU 2. Khristian Boyd DT UNI 3. MJ Devonshire CB Pitt 4. Tez Walker WR UNC 5. Trey Benson RB FSU 6. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU 7. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 8. Ryan Flournoy WR SEMU 9. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona 10. Xavier Worthy WR Texas 11. Maason Smith DT LSU 12. Andru Phillips CB Kentucky 13. Keon Coleman WR FSU 14. Laiatu Latu DE UCLA 15. Cooper DeJean CB/S Iowa 16. Ruke Orhorhoro DT Clemson 17. Qwan’Tez Stiggere CB CFL Is there anyone I’ve missed for top 30s? Looks like we know about half of our visits so far so 13 more guys to go.

He’s not lighter when it comes to playing weight. Murphy played at 308 and Newton at 295. Just because Newton packed on nearly 20 pounds for the draft process doesn’t mean they play at the same size. I highly doubt the Illinois website would me undersell Newtons weight like they do height for skill players

I see two absolute underthrows where Mitchell had his guy beat, an inaccurate pass at the goaline that is a walk in touchdown if its on target and and overthrow on a wide open WR who was actually busting it.

His production on tape is undeniable but he lacks a lot of the desirable traits that NFL teams want as a top guy. There are very few guys like Aaron Donald who make it at the level he did. Oliver was drafted 9th but I think most would agree he wasn't worth that pick 5 years in. He has been a good to great player at times but hasn't lived up to the elite potential. Its unfortunate but a lot of teams have minimums for their positions and if any guy doesn't hit them it doesn't necessarily mean their off the board but they do get dinged for it.

Smaller size. He’ll be the # 2 DT off the board just because Murphy is bigger

I know this is going to sound kind of crazy but I think I’d try him out at the Edge some in certain packages and bump him inside with Oliver for a NASCAR type package on passing downs. He’s athletic enough and could honestly say he could be better than Darius Robinson at DE. I just worry about his length. It’s a reach for sure but it’s how I would maximize his value. Give him 30% of Oliver’s snaps, 10-15% of the DE snaps and another 10-15% as a 1 Tech next to Oliver on passing downs

Oh no let’s everyone freak out cause the Bills are doing their due diligence on guys who may be there around 28 that isn’t a WR

With a draft that is short on draft able prospects I would expect a lot of G5 and FCS prospects to get drafted late this year with the idea that they can develop into something down the line

Baltimore would be the one I would think of off the top of my head without doing research

It doesn’t surprise me either that they want one but are they too late. They’re still going to be bad with a rookie. I would say they would get another year but they’re in NY where expectations are high and patience is low. If they win 6 games with Jones/Rookie they might be looking for new jobs after this season.

I think both McCormick and Greenfield get drafted higher than their projections. McCormick I see going round 3 or 4. Greenfield is more a round 4 or 5 guy. Guy I know is the OC who actually coaches their OL but previously coached the TEs. Both are great kids but with Greenfield specifically he has prototypical size and played a lot of games at SDSU which doesn’t hurt. I think the question with him besides level of comp obviously is is he maxed out. He has prototypical size but he’s already 24 and usually when you take FCS guys you hope there is some upside. I just wonder how much of that there is in his game. I think he’s a swing tackle in the NFL who can become an average starting NFL tackle if he can develop his play strength more. That’s the big question with him.

I have insight from a lot of people since I used to work in the industry in college football. I know scouts for the Jets, Texans, Bears. This doesn’t mean they are going to tell me about what they’re going to do but if I ask about a certain prospect they’ll share. I did this a couple of years ago when Melifonwu was coming out of Syracuse and people were projecting the Bills to take him in round 1. I didn’t see it but I asked around and the opinion I got was no shot he’s going in round 2 or 3. So it justified my evaluation. I watched tape on HS prospects and cut them up so our coaching staff could evaluate them. I have certain insights at schools such as Buffalo, Kansas, South Dakota State, Northern Illinois, Florida State(just because I’m a fan and watch them all the time). Does this mean I know everything, No, but I do have the resources to ask if I really need to about certain players.

I think it’s a real possibility. They have spent a lot of time with him and people see DT as a huge hole because Wilkins left but they re-signed Seiler last year probably knowing full well they were going to let Wilkins go.

He’s a 2nd rounder and he’s a good route runner and he’s tough and can block. Probably best suited for the slot more than the outside

Your moving up 8 spots in the first and getting back a 3rd. I’ve constantly said however Beane has it ranked if there is a large gap in their player rankings at WR such as Thomas than a big gap or whoever their number 5 guy is and 6th guy than make the move. If they have 4-10 ranked somewhat similarly than by all means pick at 28 or move down

If it looks that easy it isn’t. I’ve learned that in Sports gambling. They know something we don’t. Someone speculated Mitchell would go top 20 on here a bit back. Someone is going to take a chance on his traits earlier than his tape warrants