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I've never been high on Elam but Jones is looking for a high paid extension on top of being traded so for that reason I would say no to the deal. Milano can't be cut really until 2026 so we don't need two large LB contracts.
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Just now, HappyDays said:
I don't think Andreessen has shown enough in pass coverage to get claimed elsewhere. If anything I am hoping we find the last LB on our roster from another team's cuts. All along I have wanted us to keep 6 LBs to protect against injury and I don't see 6 roster-worthy players in our current room. Honestly I struggle to even see 5.
Almost zero chance Gore gets claimed IMO. Last year there were zero RBs claimed after cutdowns. He plays no special teams and has no high end physical traits.
I agree on all of these points. Could someone scoop up Andreessen on a bad team and develop him at the back end of the roster while playing ST's sure I guess. I guess Buffalo can do that as well but Gore isn't getting claimed. Every year there is either a RB or WR that Bills fans love in the preseason and think is going to get claimed and doesn't.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
Wasn't subject to waivers as a vested vet.
Was Bates player for player? Forget who went the other way but think it was.
Eli Harold, what a win for Beane there.
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49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Roster cutdown waiver acquisitions it is zero. That doesn't mean he hasn't made claims though. We have been near the back of the waiver queue for all of that period. I'm sure there is one or two in season waiver claims I might be missing - Jordan Phillips the first time back in 2018 was definitely an in-season waiver claim. There probably have been some others since but in terms of cutdown waiver pick ups since 2020 it's zero.
Yea that only move I can even recall off the top of my head was the trade for Ryan Bates. I'm sure there is another trade he made where he acquired a guy at cutdown but its very rare someone is coming in.
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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Why do you have Morrow making it? He hasn't played a snap in the pre-season was with the 3s all the way through camp.... he is the mystery to me. I have 5 staying:
Bernard, Williams, Spector (so long as healthy), Ulofoshio, Andreessen.
Morrow or Jones or some other pound a penny vet on the practice squad.
Except they didn't last year. They went with young guys and put Kirksey and then Klein on the PS. I expect them to do the same. That level of vet is seriously easy to find and the practice squad rules now allow you to just stick them there.
Morrow should be cut IMO. I don't know why he hasn't played a snap in pre-season but when a guy is with the 3s in camp then doesn't get on the field its usually a bad sign.
Because they need another veteran in the room. They won’t feel comfortable playing Andreessen and Ulofoshio in real games, Williams is not proven yet, and Spector is hurt. I’ve said it in numerous other posts that it wouldn’t surprise me if they sign a vet. I can’t project who they will pick up so Morrow fits that role as of now-
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Out of the names that have surfaced so far, i'd be most interested in Dillon Johnson the RB from Washington who was cut by Carolina for a PS spot. Not advocating for Tommy Sweeney but if they need a 3rd TE there is some familiarity there with him and could see the Bills bringing him in to the PS or 3rd TE spot
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19 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:
Damn I liked brown. That sucks. Dinucci is going to make the team
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2 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:
Only if it's before the season. If you cut Reid Ferguson (as another poster suggested), or only keep 1 QB as I mentioned, and then wait until cutdowns are complete, you can then put another player on IR for return. Say, for example, they have Trubisky and Edwards listed as the two who are eligible to return but not on the 53 man roster. They "cut" Reid Ferguson and keep Spector on the roster. Then, later this week, they put Ferguson on IR for return and re-sign Ferguson. Spector would have agreed to do this and to re-sign before they even cut him. They have a total of 8 IR for returns for the whole year (including the pre-cutdown ones). So, in the above scenario they would be down to 5 left for the rest of the year.
Yup I got ya I read through the verbiage and admitted I was wrong unlike in years past where there was no 2 IR return spots hence IR ing a young guy before the season to protect losing them-
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2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:
A team can bring back 8 players from IR during the season. The new rules allow for two of the 8 to be designated before Tuesday. Right now it looks like we have at least candidates in Milano (assuming management thinks his injury isn’t season ending), Trubisky and Morris. If they want all 3 on IR to start the season, they are going to need Ferguson’s roster spot.
Yea I hear ya. I think you can get around Trubisky or really any of them besides Milano by rostering them and making them inactive and calling up guys from the PS for 2-3 weeks instead of IRing them for an auto 4 weeks. Maybe they cut Ferguson and give him a contract extension by doing it since he’s a FA after the year. Like do me a solid and we’ll do you a solid type thing -
19 minutes ago, LEBills said:
I thought if they made the final 53 you could IR them and designate them to return. If not then maybe they do that for Frank Gore Jr if they think he will be picked up off waivers and want to keep him
So it appears you’re right after looking at the verbiage but I wouldn’t expect MVS to want to do that. Maybe Morris would , I would think Spector they wouldn’t want to do. I also wonder out loud how much if they did IR a Spector or Morris for the year how that affects their years of service and Free Agency purposes. Might not at all but curious is all especially since Morris was undrafted -
12 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Ulofoshio is played at OLB. Andreessen was played at MLB. So it won't come down to those two.
At OLB, we just have Dorian Williams and Edefuan Ulofoshio. Which is kinda scary. So Ulofoshio isn't going anywhere.
What it's ultimately going to come down to, if it's an either or situation, is him vs. Morrow or him vs. Spector, if he isn't going to PUP him and they're only keeping 5.
Right now, I think he's probably safe as with Spector injured and Jones released, we only have 5 healthy LB's and that's the minimum we keep.
We don’t even know if Spector is going to be out for the beginning of the season. Morrow would be the backup MLB. If for whatever reason Spector goes to IR I expect them to bring on a vet from another roster -
12 minutes ago, LEBills said:
yea the obvious thing if they want to IR a third player is to cut Reid Furgeson (2500 dollar cap hit) have the player make the roster, then IR and resign Ferguson. So Milano and Morris out of the gate probably, then if they wanted to they could IR MVS or Spector.
The problem is if you IR a 3rd person it’s for the season. That’s typically why they’ve IRd young guys. -
1 minute ago, LEBills said:
I believe it’s 8 return spots available for the season but I could have that wrong. If they want to keep Andreessen and think he will get claimed that is probably the best way. Let chronically injured Spector get fully healthy.
It is 8 but only during the regular season. The Bills can only designate 2 at 53 cutdowns-
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Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Honestly, I wouldn’t be shocked if Eddy U and Buffalo Joe made it over Spector. That said, Bills kept 6 LBers last year, I wouldn’t be shocked if they kept all 6 on the roster.
Spector isn’t getting cut. Core ST who’s a veteran and knows the system . The Bills need the depth with Milano out. I’m not hating on the idea of Andreessen I had him on the roster after the 2nd preseason game but when breaking it down if he makes it he’ll be probably the last guy. -
1 minute ago, Punching Bag said:
Beane talked about it on show w/Tasker and Brown. They have more depth at some positions and sometimes they need to look at that in position.
If Andreessen is cut and offered a position on another roster he would take it. If it was another practice squad he likely would discuss chances and development ability with agent not necessarily stay in Buffalo. His agent would tell him he needs more visibility if Bills choose not to put him on 53.
The point was Andreessen isn’t making it over Ulofoshio. If they keep 6 can he make it sure. If someone goes to IR from the LB corps can he make it possible but less likely imo. His best path to be honest is if they decide to keep 9 DL or trade a DB but all 11 DBs are more valuable than keeping Andreessen at this point -
7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Morrow is on the roster as well, may be cleared up in 2 weeks.
Bernard
Williams
Morrow
Buffalo Joe
Eddy U
Spector
Dion Jones on the squad.
Don’t rule it out.
Deion Jones was already cut and the posters point was If Spector goes on IR. So my whole post and point still stands -
23 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:
I think it's quite possible that Spector starts season on the IR.
That would put Andreesen as #5, for now
While this is possible and feasible. If Spector goes to IR their depth chart is then Bernard and Williams with two rookies who have never played an NFL game including one of the rookies being undrafted and the other a 5th round pick who was injured during cap. The veteran would be Morrow who also was injured and would be the primary backup. That’s not ideal.
If they IR Spector, I would think they are going to sign a veteran LB to the 53 man.
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Deion Jones has been awful that is not surprising and I don’t think it’s an indicator that Andreessen is being kept
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Just now, Punching Bag said:
if Andreessen has shown more I cannot see why Bills would keep Ulofoshio who they probably can put on PS. They have cut draft picks before.
QB Anthony Brown is worth keeping as PS QB.
Yes 6th and 7th Rounders they have cut, Ulofoshio was a 5th round pick. Don't be blinded by the hometown hero hype and look at it from an organizational perspective. Ulofoshio would be claimed, I'm not sure Andreessen would be especially if they offered him a PS spot since hes from Buffalo .
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1 minute ago, wolfpack78 said:
I suspect this means Buffalo Joe is safe (or they’re trading for the Rams LB).
The only way Andreessen is safe is if they decide to keep him as a 6th LB or if they are going to keep him over Ulofoshio which I have a hard time believing since he was a draft pick.
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3 minutes ago, djp14150 said:
I don’t totally disagree with you…
just think the roster is structured slightly differently
2QB
4RB
5WR
3TE
9OL
off=23
4DT
5 DE
5 LB
5 CB
4 S
def=23
4 ST K,P,LS, returner
3 wildcards
with the wildcards it’s about who might get claimed vs PS. Who needs in season IR
Milano goes on preseason IR with intent on going back. Another players goes this route ( Morris?)
i think MVS gets cut then to PS or is in the 4 wildcards for in season IR, same with Gore
i also think you coukd see P and LS get cut to protectvthevrostervthen resigned but I don’t know their contract structure.
I’m curious if they make a trade.
I understand what your saying but I'm not going project waiver claims and trades etc outside of a clear glut of secondary players. It seems we're on the same page I have 24 offensive players and 26 players on defense plus the 3 specialists.
2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:I was looking at the dead cap on some of the bubble players. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/overview/_/year/2024
I wonder how much this will play into the decision making. (Dead cap in "(DC)"
For example - Linebacker - There are 5 guys competing for 3 or 4 jobs. The are Morrow (750K), D Jones (zero), Ulofoshio (314K), Spector (52K) and Andreessen ($2500). Could they cut Jones to save the 750K dead cap if Morrow is cut?
What about OL? I think we all agree that the top 9 are set in stone - Brown, Dawkins, Torrence, Edwards, McGovern, Anderson, Van Denmark, SVPG and Grable. Will they keep Collins as the 10th OL to save his 1.5 million dead cap and release Clapp (287.5K) or will they say F-it and take the nearly 1.8 mill dead cap hit and cut both?
WR - Shorter (243K) vs Shavers (9k) vs Hamler (zero)?
DE - Jonathan (1.75K). Such a low dead cap hit, I can see them cutting him if they think they can get him to the PS.
Two guys with surprisingly large dead cap Gore (90k) and Britton (G) (100K).
Dead cap for guys who will almost certainly be cut - Toohill (15k), Keaton Bills (50K), Couch (70K), Lovely (15K), Cline (9k), Davidson (4.5K), Ankou (7.5K), Isabella (8K), K. Jackson (zero), and McKitty (4K).
One guy who should be cut but won't be is Trubisky (1.5 million).
FYI Ferguson (LS) has only a $2500 dead cap. I makes sense for him to get cut and then re-signed so that they can get an injured player on the 53 and then put that player on IR to reopen Ferguson's roster spot.
I agree with the idea of Ferguson being cut and keeping someone to put on IR but I question who that person is that they want to keep on the 53 who they want to put on season ending IR that they fear would be scooped up by another team. I dont know maybe you have a guy or two in your thought process.
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My Last 53 Man Projection
QB- Allen, Trubisky (2)
Cut: Anthony Brown, Ben Dinucci
RB- Cook, Davis, Johnson (3)
Cut- Evans(Season IR), Gore Jr
FB- Gilliam (1)
WR- Shakir, Coleman, Hollins, Samuel, MVS (5)
Cut: Isabella, Cain, Byrd, Shorter, Johnson
TE: Kincaid, Knox, McKitty (3)
Cut: Davidson
OL- Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, Anderson, Van Pran, Grable, VandeMark, Collins (10)
Cut: Clayton, Britton, Mike Edwards, Jarvis, Bills,
DE- Rousseau, Miller, Epenesa, Smoot, Solomon, Jonathon (6)
Cut: Cline, Bothroyd, Toohill
DT- Oliver, Jones, Johnson, Carter (4)
Cut: Dean, Ankou, Stevenson
LB- Bernard, Williams, Spector, Morrow, Ulofoshio (5)
Cut: Simon, Jones
CB- Douglas, Benford, Elam, Ingram, Johnson, Hardy (6)
Cut: Couch, Brown, Lovely
SAF- Rapp, Edwards, Hamlin, Bishop, Lewis (5)
Cut: Williamson, Burgess, Delaney, Jackson
K-Bass
P- Martin
LS- Ferguson (3)
IR with return- Milano, Morris
I try to put in the locks first to see where I'm at in the roster and had 50 but the last 3 spots were incredibly hard. I also believe they will go with an initial 11 guys in the secondary but I can't see them maintaining that all season which leads me to believe there is going to be a trade of a Safety at some point. Obviously Rapp and Bishop will not be going so at some point one of Hamlin, Lewis, or Edwards is going to be traded in my opinion. The last spots really came down to positions.
The last 3 guys I added were McKitty, Collins, and Jonathon. The Bills are going to add a 3rd TE whether that is putting Morris in the 3rd spot even injured or going Davidson, McKitty. I went with McKitty because he is more of a blocker as well as a pass threat. I then went with Collins because his contract is guaranteed and will be a veteran presence if anything to help school the younger guys around him. That spot will come down to a 10th lineman, or a 6th WR. Just don't see a 6th WR worth keeping at this point who couldn't be stashed on the PS. The other spot came down to keeping a 6th DE(Jonathon) or a 5th DT(Williams) vs a 6th LB(Andreessen). I thought long and hard about this as its risky going with 5 LB's especially with Morrow and Spector hurt and their only backup being Ulofoshio who was also injured and a rookie. I think they keep Andreessen on the PS and call him up for the first couple of games to make sure they are covered there. The Bills have traditionally kept 10 DL so that is why I ended up at Jonathon.
1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:The fine folks at Buffalo Plus said Trubisky was limping around like he is really injured and looked like he will miss at least 4 games.
He could be headed to IR.
it seems there will be a new QB brought in for sure. It just cant be dinucci week 1.
They can roster Trubisky and sign a QB to the Practice Squad whether Dinucci or another Veteran and use his callups at the beginning of the season as well.
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DE, WR, CB would be the early top choices for me followed by DT.
I think either Grable or VandeMark will be the starter next year at RT and McGovern will go back to LG with Van Pran at Center
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Rams’ LB Ernest Jones IV wants a trade
in The Stadium Wall
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He wants an extension thats the reason why he wants to be traded. I highly doubt someone is going to take him on without paying him.