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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    1 minute ago, pennstate10 said:

    Literally the opposite of Edmunds. 
    Edmunds was super athletic, RAS score of 9.5, but played worse than his athleticism. 
    Coleman is not super athletic,but plays better than his athletic traits would suggest. 


    Keon Coleman is plenty athletic. You don’t play high level D1 basketball and football being a subpar athlete 

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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    Just now, Zerovoltz said:

    I am not saying it's a bad player or bad pick.  I like Coleman.  

     

    But...it's odd AF that you'd move out of 28, with your WR (apparently Coleman is your guy) and expose yourself to the risk of missing out.  

    IF this was your guy...congrats for the manuevering.  


    It was their guy. They met with Coleman multiple times and he’s the type of player. People just didn’t want to admit it here 

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    Just now, OldTimer1960 said:

    The young age is a plus, I just don’t know how he gets any quicker than he is.


    He’s going to be able to be in a state of the art training room around NFL strength and conditioning without having to go to school. This is where having strong football love and acumen comes into play. He’s going to work at it, he’s going to be in the facility, I know that sounds very Gabe Davis but he has way better hands and runs a better route tree than Davis 

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    Good post.  The obsession with 40 times is comical to me.  He plays faster than his "40 time" and the gauntlet is a much more significant speed test and has to do a lot more with on field game speed.  

     

    Give me anyone of Mitchell, McConkey, Coleman, Franklin, or Polk in round 2 and I will be a happy camper.  Doesn't matter to me if its at 33, on a trade back, or at 60.  Anyone of them this round and I will be thrilled.  And I would take all 5 of them over Worthy, Legette, or Pearsall (I love Pearsall, but he wasn't the right fit for us)


    And let’s be frank the vast majority bitching about him have never seen him play they just know about his testing time and what they have seen in a 5 minute YouTube clip. 
     

    I am literally an FSU fan and have watched him for 13 games this year and I can tell you I’m very unbiased when it comes to their players. 
     

    There are other reasons for why he didn’t separate than he’s not a burner. He also is literally 20 years old and is going to get better. Not my first choice but a great locker room hard working guy who will do whatever the Bills ask him to do to win. Which is the goal after all

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    Just now, boyst said:

    Then why no separation 


    The Florida State football team used him on a ton of vertical rates and threw a bunch of jump balls to Keon Coleman and Johnny Wilson. They abandoned the middle of the field for full games at times. If defenses know you’re running only a couple of routes and you’re not a burner you’re not going to separate. That has nothing to do with his ability to run a route tree just FSUs offense was very helter skelter for being a 13-0 team 

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    My comparison for Keon Coleman is Keenan Allen and a former FSU great Anquan Boldin. The Kelvin Benjamin comparisons are lazy lazy. 
     

    I’ve said for months that Coleman is a possibility because he’s got great football acumen, is young and developable and provides an interchangeable piece that can play inside and out. 
     

    I will be one of the few apparently who will not be upset if they select him. People also forget we can easily get a true speed WR later in the draft. 
     

    I get the appeal of AD Mitchell he has great upside too but he just doesn’t strike me as a Bills player(I’ve been wrong before) 

     

    McConkey is my preferred choice but any of the 4 I understand. There have been tons of people saying that Coleman is going a lot higher than the scouting community has him pegged 

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    2024 NFL Draft - Day 1 Debrief

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    1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    If Carolina can get the Quarterback working Legette will eat. 


    He went to about the worst possible situation possible. QB who looks like a bust, he’ll be asked to be the # 1 immediately. His only saving grace is if Canales can turn around Young 

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    18 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

    Anyone know recent draft history when 33 was traded and what the return was?


    the 33rd pick hasn’t been traded for quite awhile at least from a team moving back it’s been traded into a lot like the Bills did

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    I think the Bills are going to move down again. Listening to Beane in his presser he made mention of getting starters or key contributors and 95 gives them more of a chance to achieve that. 
     

    I think he’s finding a way to get more guys in the top 100 considering this draft supposedly falls off a cliff after 120-130 players. 
     

    I don’t think they go crazy but I can see them moving into the late 30s giving up one of their 5ths and asking for a 3rd back 

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    50 minutes ago, LEBills said:


    Washington makes the most sense. They can take spend the night deciding the best OT left and take him at 33. Though I think it was Russini that said the Texans were aggressively trying to trade up too. 


    I thought about the Commanders to but all the first round tackles went off the board in round 1 and they can probably get a guy by sitting at 36. Patrick Paul is probably the best available. 
     

    If they don’t like him they can still take interior guys like JPJ and Frazier. I just think looking at it objectively they will sit at their picks 

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    I have said this for months, I prefer McConkey but Keon Coleman fits the DNA of the type of person they love and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s our first pick. People need to get over the 4.6. 
     

    He is 20 years old and the Bills love taking younger prospects with upside 

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    Gonzo Final Mock

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    Got 10 out of the 32 first round picks correct. Thats not bad when you don't account for trades.

     

    I got the first 6 right.

     

    McCarthy was wrong spot but the right team. Brian Thomas was the right spot but wrong team and Xavier Legette I had at pick 33 to Carolina and he went pick # 32 and McConkey is still in play for the Bills at 33 if they choose.

     

    Williams

    Daniels

    Maye

    Harrison

    McCarthy

    Nabers

    Odunze

    Mims

    Thomas Jr (Spot)

    Legette (Team)

     

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    6 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

    Going for quantity (picks) over quality?

     

    I think they are repositioning their picks to be more valuable to move up from 60 which I think a lot of people agree is a dead zone for the Bills and their needs. Between the 3 trades they moved down 5 picks so far and gained 128 spots. That is significant when talking about moving around the board in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

     

    I think its very possible the Bills field calls all night and move the 33rd pick as well. That pick is very valuable to sit on for 20 hours and field phone calls for. Might be able to get a premium for it. 

     

    For Instance Buffalo and Green Bay makes a lot of sense tomorrow. Buffalo trades 33 and 163 and receives 41 and 88.

     

    Its obvious the Bills have a group of WR's clumped together.

     

    That would leave 8 picks between us and 41 with McConkey, Mitchell, Franklin & Coleman still on the board. Is it possible all 4 go sure but its highly unlikely and I have to believe Green Bay would want either DeJean or Newton which are big needs for them.

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