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Really? He came out the same year as his teammate Bud Dupree and was overshadowed by him at the combine but Smith has been the better pro. Here let me try to educate you on the guy. https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/kentucky/Article/ZaDarius-Smith-most-underrated-free-agent-Pro-Football-Focus-127683622/Amp/ https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/za-darius-smith-is-making-an-early-statement-in-contract-year

No thanks another prototype guy who doesn’t play up to his measurables. If I’m gonna spend big money on a defensive player I’d rather do it on Za’Darius Smith who’s gotten better every year and could easily be a LDE at 6’4 275

I saw this and laughed immediately at all the McDermott memes. Idk what other Head Coaches and GM's have a strong wrestling background.

I'm guessing by creative he means a guy who can play multiple positions in a defense. Can stand up, can put his hand in the dirt, has experience getting after the QB at multiple positions. I would think that would mean a guy who can play DE/DT or a guy who can play LB/DE. That makes me think he is talking about Anthony Barr or Za'Darius Smith from the Ravens.

The Packers at 12 will take either Sweat or Burns at 12. You want one you take em at 9

You wouldn't be kicking the tires on Collins or Smith. You better be ready to write the big check for those two. Za'Darius Smith is so underrated. You want pass rush he is a guy to go after in FA.

I could see even Sam LB but I think that negates his biggest strength which is rushing the passer. Before the LB's get started, one of my favorite LB's in this Draft is Terrill Hanks from New Mexico State. Former Safety conversion to LB. Fits McDermotts scheme really well. Dont Disappoint me Hanks sticking my neck out here.

I think Burns has been the most impressive DL at this thing and yes that includes Sweat. You can just see his natural athleticism. He is now up to 249 and it hasn't affected him at all. He also has elite college tape unlike Sweat. I would consider him at 9 as well. I want elite traits and elite tape.

Yea except for the fact that you know Julio Jones had everything Metcalf had and Dominated the SEC for multiple years. Something Metcalf never did. He has no wiggle. Hes a straight line guy. That wont play in the NFL. Throw in his Injury history and I'll pass. Great athletes dont necessarily make good football players. You have to take the elite measurables and combine them with tape. Thats what scares me about guys like Gary and Sweat as well. Great athletes who didn't translate it to success on the field.

I'd consider Isabella at 40. I think he will go somewhere in the 2nd round.

Because while he's a better athlete, He was 2nd on the depth chart at Iowa for a reason. He has inconsistent blocking, inconsistent hands. A perfect example was he was killing the combine no doubt and he ran a wheel route drill and clanged right off his hands and he dropped it. Listen to the ball hit Hockenson's hands. You barely hear it which indicates he has really soft hands. Fant is the boom or bust guy. Hockenson at worst is a top 15 TE in the NFL with the potential for Top 5.

Fant drops the wheel route pass right in his hands. I want to research how many TE's that ran under a 4.55 have had success in the NFL. I know of Vernon Davis but there aren't many. Being a freak athlete at TE doesn't always translate.

Yup, Boras is down there front and center

The problem with Fant has never been his athleticism. He is an inconsistent on field performer who drops passes

If you listened to McDermott during his press conference he talked about helping Allen by building inside then out. Which means protecting him then worrying about weapons. Now they could easily sign two FA OL and that would adjust the thinking but as it stands now if they are going offense it sounds like OL

I’m still not on board with Metcalf. Idk why I’m just not feeling him. He had very little production, had injuries and had two other NFL quality WRs to take pressure off yet it still didn’t happen. I like grabbing WRs like Ridley, Samuel, Isabella, etc later in the draft more then that. He may make me eat my words but I hope he does go before 9.

See this is what I think too. Then when I started to go into everything. Is Ford as a Guard better then Bradbury at Center? I tend not to think so. I'd grade them very closely. So why is Ford considered in the 10-20 range and Bradbury the 30-50 range. After today that will change obviously but I find stuff to be like that funny. Why isn't Lindstrom considered a first rounder then. I could argue Lindstrom is better than Ford at Guard. Does the potential to play RT make that much of a difference.

http://walterfootball.com/NFLHotPress/2_1_2019 Not a huge fan of walterfootball but some good tidbits if true that the Bills really like Lindstrom, Hockenson to go in the 20's, and 4 QB's in the top 15.

When people watch Hockensons tape you have to remember the guy is 21 years old. He's still young. I went back and watched tape of Travis Kelce at Cincinnati and he was a lumberer he didn't look like a freak athlete either. I will say Kelce did look a hell of a lot more filled out in the upper body in college. Its very hard to compare Hockenson to guys like him and Gronk and Ertz who have filled out their bodies and have been in the league awhile.

Probably all 4 guys to be honest that they let go. There is a common theme. 4 older coaches with long track records of success who may have been stuck in their ways and didn’t want to change or thought their job status was secure replaced by 4 guys who are all younger and haven’t had the taste yet or being a full time guy besides Dorsey. Guys who will be hungry to make a difference on the staff.

I think the biggest nugget he let out was when someone asked about TEs being a security blanket for young QBs and he agreed but then said something along the lines of obviously we want to help our young guy by building the trenches out. That typically to me means that they are eyeballing OL/DL. It actually doesnt surprise me cause Andy Reid has that same philosophy.

Very unlikely that teams value torn ACL Jeffrey Simmons over him, Polite has character concerns according to Matt Miller....Bosa, Williams, and Allen will be gone before the Bills pick. Burns will be too one dimensional to take in the top 10. Daniel Jeremiah has reported teams are concerned about Oliver’s last 4 games, his junior tape in general, and his overall size which is why you have seen him go from guaranteed top 3 in mocks to anywhere from 7 to 25 now. Gary has a ton of potential but doesn’t live up to it with production. You can poke holes in every DL argument besides the top 3. The reason why Hockenson is gaining steam in circles is because A)He’s the best TE in the country B)He’s still very young and hasn’t tapped his potential C) He has no character concerns D)He is an all around prospect and TE with both his blocking and catching prowess. As as I stated in the other thread, his combine will be a huge factor in whether he goes top 10 or in the latter art of the 1st round

There are some rumors that the Giants like Daniel Jones more then Haskins. Could be just the Manning-Cutcliff-Jones connection people are going off of though

Its good to see a fellow Hock fan. Here's the line to the thread from a week ago, if you want to read on the comments from there.

You should only value them when you have a franchise QB and need to constantly stock up on more picks to have cheaper contracts. Thats my opinion. If you dont have that guy then a 3rd or 4th round pick usually doesn't matter unless you hit on said Franchise QB with one of them.