gonzo1105
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I said this when someone brought up if we got screwed out of Legette when we traded down. Morgan and Beane are friends and former co workers. He knew who Carolina wanted and Legette spilled the beans.
He also knew that NE wanted a WR so it made sense to call Carolina on a lot of fronts.
Calls Morgan to let them know they are offering X and they are considering it and if they want to guarantee themselves Legette throw me a bone to move down one spot and we can both get our guys.
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It sounds like in every presser that Beane is giving Hyde space but if he tells them he wants to play they’d bring him back
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4 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
Carter going to push for a starting job over Oliver???
Carter has played the 1 Tech and could grow into that position. I expect him to also get reps there as well in camp-
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I wouldn’t classify Claypool as hardworking
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Smoot is actually the best signing out of the 3 imo
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Misses his holes way too much and tries to bounce it but doesn’t have the speed to get around the corner
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Im guessing we’re keeping 6 LBs like usual.
We know they Milano, Bernard, and Williams are locks
Beyond that we have Ulofoshio who we drafted in the 5th and is likely to make it for STs
Jones seems to have the inside track at Mike backup
Morrow and Spector battling for the last spot
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2 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Why would we get rid of Spencer Brown?
I didn’t say we were going to get rid of him but look at the escalation of salaries for RTs. You’re looking at between 15-20 Mill AAV for Brown. -
The playoffs and see what happens. Transition doesn’t mean they have plans of losing more games. I don’t know why this is even a thing to discuss. We are only rebuilding in the sense of going from veterans to young . The goal is still the SB
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A couple of years out?
LT- Dawkins
LG- McGovern
C- Van Pran
RG- Torrence
RT- Who knows (I think Spencer Brown gets transition tagged then is traded or gone)
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I thought it was interesting he played the boundary for the Jags. Prob because of Kirk. He’s only had one good year tho. Guess it truly depends on what they think of Shorter/Shavers etc
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10 minutes ago, DJB said:
It’s ok to admit both which I can.So far I love Keon the person. Seems
fun loving and innocent. A guy the locker room will enjoy. You can see he wants to work hard and be a good person .
But I can also point out his faults as Keon the player as well
He has faults I’m not denying that. The Bills have a type of person/player they like. Coleman fit it to a tee. They met with him numerous times.
The problem is most people can’t separate what they want in a player vs what the Bills want
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Ray Davis is a complete back and he was my favorite RB in the draft. He’s a legit 3 down back. He obviously is a good down hill runner, led his team in TD receptions and his best attribute is he’s a hell of a pass pro RB which Janes Cook is terrible at. Davis was an incredibly smart pick
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They don’t really have a choice tbh he’s earned an extra year but he needs to turn it on like Oliver did
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2 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:
I have to admit, this video is indeed a bit disappointing.
Especially if you compare it to the same video of Xavier Leggette.
It’s disappointing because Coleman is billed as the “contested catch guy” but if you watch all of Leggette’s targets, he has a higher success rate of coming down with those catches, and seems to be better at just about everything else as well.
For all the buzz about the trade KC, it’s the trade with Carolina that leaves me with more questions.
Do we know for sure that Leggette was not our guy?
For all those that say we wouldn’t have made the trade if Panthers were coming after our guy, ok, then what is the point of trading up one spot for either team in that case? Why would the Panthers make this trade if they weren’t worried about us taking Leggette??? They could have just had him with the next pick after we drafted Coleman if this was true.
Not sure I’m convinced we didn’t get screwed.
We wanted Coleman the whole time. Why is this so hard to believe. Him and Dan Morgan are buddies. Legette stated that he met with Carolina a ton and they told him they were going to take him.
Mike Reiss, New England’s reporter said they tried to trade up with the Bills ahead of Carolina. So is it hard to believe that Beane called up his buddy Morgan and told him NE offered him this and if he wanted to guarantee himself Legette he had to throw him a sweetener to move down a spot
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19 minutes ago, WacArnolds said:
Very balanced take and hard to disagree! Just hard to trust he will do what it takes to put the team over the top this time when it always felt like they just needed another piece or two on offense outside of the 13 seconds year, where they just plain blew it.
Will have to agree to disagree on this one. Diggs he deserves credit for but anyone could see they needed a serious talent infusion at WR. My belief is they've routinely over-invested in defense that has come up woefully short in every single moment that has mattered over the last 3 seasons, and that starts philosophically at the top.
I will continuously say this when people bring up the defense. Yea they invest there but it hasn’t just been the defense that has failed the Bills in the playoffs .
In the 3 Chiefs games specifically
The first year we took an early lead and the better more experienced playoff team overwhelmed them. We gave up 37 yes but the offense was completely shut down in the 2nd half. I might add the Bills offense put up a whopping 10 points in the divisional game against the Ravens
The 2nd year they put up 36 and lost. No one after that year was talking about adding more offense they were talking about coaching and defense blowing it.
Last year there were blunders in all facets. Bass misses, fake punt gone wrong, offense stalling in the 3rd and a defense ravaged by injuries. Still had a chance to win and couldn’t get it done.
In 2 out of those 3 games the Chiefs simply made more plays in the clutch than the Bills.
The Bengals game the Bills got dominated again in both offense and defense including Allen being awful but all anyone talked about was the defense getting gashed which they were.
They have done everything. Loaded up on offense, loaded up on defense and didn’t matter. Make more plays in the clutch that is how we are going to beat them.
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8 minutes ago, WacArnolds said:
I don't think the criticism should be as a result of this draft. What he did is fine - but we have never focused on the offense or giving Josh the weapons that he needs to put this team over the top during a period in which Beane swore "he was never going all in". Now we have a "reset" year in the prime of Josh's career. That is not ok and a result of previous failures that he deserves a lot of criticism for.
This is unwarranted. Beane has essentially now given Allen 3 1st round caliber players to throw to. Diggs via trade, Kincaid last year and now Coleman.
He also signed Beasley in his prime.
If you want to say he didn’t do it early enough okay I can hear ya but he has given him good ball players to throw to
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They just gave Beane and McDermott contract extensions last offseason. What people want to happen is different from the reality of the situation. These two aren’t going anywhere unless they majorly flop
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The Philosophy of this team has always been the same.
Blue Collar players who work hard and work as a team instead of worrying about individual status. Good character guys who fit a locker room. Even the Maserati is from a middle of nowhere Cali town where he grew up on a farm and was non recruited
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2 minutes ago, Sweats said:
The funny thing is that everyone loves this pick for this franchise. I haven't heard or read even one person say it was a bad pick for the Bills (i agree), however, Bills fans in all of their infinite wisdom and YouTube knowledge are the first ones to berate it and then, say our FO is wrong.......you know, when they were wrong about drafting JA, so i take this all with a grain of salt cause i've witnessed what this kid can do and he is electric.
Could it be that Bills fans are wrong?..........never, just ask them.
I said it in another thread everyone will bring up Gronk over Troup, Metcalf over Ford and Russ over Graham about how smart they were compared to the front office but I’m sure if I spammed this board over the last 5 years it will be 50-1 on guys like that compared to guys that were recommended that flopped on their ass-
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I said for months that the Bills would love his leadership and character traits and that he was the type of player they would love because of his maximum effort and doing the small things it takes to win.
Most didn’t want to hear that cause they read a couple scouting reports and wanted more speed guys
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Just because there were rumors that the Patriots wanted Keon Coleman and that’s why the Bills didn’t move down from 33. Could have also been the reason why Morgan moved up 1 spot out of fear that maybe the Patriots wanted Legette so two friends helped each other out
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3 hours ago, Bangarang said:
Kupp, St. Brown and Kelce were proven commodities as #1 receiving options. Putting complimentary pieces around those players at least has some logic to it.
We're putting all of our hopes in Shakir and Kincaid taking big steps forward and for Coleman to have a big rookie year.
I mean that’s what you do with 1st round picks you expect them to take steps. If Kincaid didn’t take a step with Diggs we would have been in trouble. Coleman would have been a first rounder if we didn’t trade down. The idea was we never gave Allen legit high draft weapons. He now has two essential 1st round picks to throw to and we might give him another high end one next year whether in the first or second-
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4 hours ago, MJS said:
From what I can gather, he wasn't always put in positions to succeed there. They were running screens with him. Like, what? Also throwing prayers up to him when double or triple covered or when the defender has established leverage. There were consistently under thrown balls to him, causing more contested catch situations than needed (and having to wait for a ball and the defender getting back in the play makes it harder for a receiver than just a normal 50/50 ball).
I actually think he might do much better in the pros with a much better QB throwing to him and not being the focal point of the offense. Of course, he'll also be going up against better talent, but I expect he will be used more appropriately than he was in college.
Well yeah, why was he running go routes all the time? I think he was mismanaged in college. They had him doing everything, including a lot of things that played to his weaknesses, not strengths.
This is what I was saying about him pre draft , FSU relied on basically a jump ball offense and very rarely threw anything but a screen or go ball to him. I think he is capable of way more than that when people talk about his lack of route tree it’s just he wasn’t asked toTold everyone that every defense in the country is going to see that on tape and adjust to it causing a lack of separation.
Look at the LSU TD he wins in contested fashion in the opener over Major Burns. Any NFL team would have adjusted as Burns is literally 12 yards off Coleman but they still throw it up to him for the TD instead of adjusting to a slant
In the Bills mini-rebuild trading Hamlin to Pittsburg might be the right thing to do.
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The Bills are cutting Hamlin pending injuries in preseason. It will be Rapp, Edwards, Bishop, Lewis and maybe another vet like Hyde before Hamlin