gonzo1105

Thanks for the English lesson.

Yea literally don’t lose to Zach Wilson, Max Jones and have 12 men on the field and their 14-3 and the # 1 seed this year so yes

and what over the history of the McDermott/Allen led Bills do you think will change. It’s literally the reason they didn’t have the 1 seed this year like the other years. Blowing games they had no business losing

There is a difference between regular season and playoff football. Something the Bills are 0-3 against the Chiefs in. If it’s 50/50 the Bills would have won one of them

Because Allen is such a warhorse. Allen is just as good as Mahomes maybe even better than him but def doesn’t have the supporting cast to back him up. I just don’t think you can say that definitive because Mahomes has the hardware

I agree the Chiefs just started making more plays than the Bills. Reid and Spags made adjustments and the Bills vaunted offense put up 7 second half points. The Bills put up 17 like the did in the first half and the Bills win that game going away

Your absolutely right and I out of curiousity looked at both the Bengals schedule and his drafts after he was hired. Veach had very average drafts when he first started in 2018,2019, and 2021 drafts were average but his drafts fin 2020,2022, and 2023 have been absolute money. Lucky very possible but maybe they adjusted how they did things in scouting after his first 3 years weren't great.

I don't disagree, Beane has made this team arguably at top 5 in the NFL its just the guy drafting for the Chiefs has done a better job. Thats not a knock on Beane but Veach is arguably the best GM in the league which also adds to Reid/Spags/Mahomes combo

It wasn't a good WR draft the year that we took Oliver at pick 9. The Bills were rumored to be going after TJ Hockensen if he was available but went pick 8 to the Lions. The big mistake wasn't taking a WR in Round 2 when they took Cody Ford. Thats when Deebo Samuel went 36th, AJ Brown went 51st, and if you really want to reach they could have taken D.K. Metcalf or Diontae Johnson who went early round 3.

Patrick Mahomes- Elite Talent Travis Kelce- Elite Talent Chris Jones- Elite Talent Joe Thuney- Elite Talent Creed Humphrey- Elite Talent L'Jarius Sneed- Elite Talent Trent McDuffie- Elite Talent Harrison Butker- Elite Talent Isaiah Pacheco- Very good Talent Rashee Rice- Very Good Talent Trey Smith- Very Good Talent George Karlaftis- Very good Talent on the verge of elite (Had 10.5 sacks in year 2) Nic Bolton- Very good Talent Willie Gay- Very Good Talent This doesn't include Jawaan Taylor who I know people will B word about if I put on this list. You can list whoever you want but the Chiefs have more of it.

I'm not upset I just want someone to explain to me how the Bills roster full strength is better. I dont think you can put Allen above Mahomes so slight edge to the Chiefs at QB or call it even Running Back- I'll give you Even Wide Receiver- Bills TE- Chiefs OT- Bills Interior OL- Chiefs DE- Chiefs DT- Chiefs LB-Bills CB- Chiefs Saf- Even K- Chiefs P- Chiefs Coaching- Chiefs So the way I look at it breaking it down, in my opinion, the Chief lead in 8/9 categories, the Bills lead in 3 areas, and 2/3 Evens. Even if you give the Bills the Evens it still 8 to 6. I just don't think you can logically look at the roster and say the Bills are better. They controlled it in the first half. The Bills only scored 7 points on the Chiefs in the 2nd half of that game. I agree with you that we didn't need McDuffie. There were also a lot of rumors that the Bills wanted McDuffie and were jumped by the Chiefs. Now was that to replace Johnson or were they planning on playing McDuffie outside no one will know that if they drafted. McDuffie.

Yes, this is why I wanted to point out the whole roster discrepancies. Coaching and ST's alone is a huge undeniable difference. I think we can all agree on that. Offensively both teams are going to score that is also established. I think defensively when push comes to shove the Chiefs are better. So literally 3 out of the 4 phases favor the Chiefs right now.

I will thanks I want you to explain to me which high end talent outside of Tyreek Hill walked from their roster please share cause that all you got for me. Their roster is arguably the strongest its ever been in its entire run top to bottom. The general reasoning I'm getting is the Bills were banged up this year. I'm guessing your going to tell me the combo of Hill/Kelce/Mahomes was the reason the Bills didn't get by them in the past which then essentially what your telling me is that the Chiefs have had better talent historically and now. Which was my original point but thanks for input.

I fully agree with this. To me if McDuffie is 1 and Johnson is 2 than there is a big gap between 1 and 2.

How am I lurking? I created this thread. Of course I'm going to read every post on something that I created.

I hate the mock draft simulators mostly because they have outdated player rankings and people take them as factual value of players and B word and moan as guys they saw in these things continue to fall.

It has to be one or the other man. You first said that the Bills and Chiefs roster are close and that you would actually lean towards the Bills but then in this post you state that Mahomes is afforded the luxury of having a great defense and top end players (Chris Jones). I get you'll fall back on the bills injuries this year but then what are the excuses for the 2021 and 2022 seasons on why the Chiefs made it further when the Bills weren't ravaged by injuries and have a roster that you think is slightly better?

We say this every year, with some type of excuse on why the Bills didn't get past the Chiefs, but every year nothing changes and the Chiefs are where the Bills want to be. The sole argument you have is that McDermott has been here the whole time and he's not as good as Reid which I don't think anyone would doubt.

They had injuries including tonight. They were missing Joe Thuney and Derrick Nnadi a starting Guard and DT. They missed Pacheco for a couple of games. Didn't have Bolton for a stretch of the season.

First lets start by saying I hate their guts if only because of how good they are every year and they most years eliminate our Buffalo Bills. I will also fully recognize that probably this post will get crapped on by most Bills fans but the truth hurts sometimes. This post will be an extension of another poster bringing it up but the reason why the Chiefs win every year is because they have the most top end players and coaching in the league and they always show up when the lights are the brightest. Patrick Mahomes- Is the best QB in the league. Comes through 95% of the time with the game on the line and very rarely fails come playoff time. Josh Allen is a very close 2nd but doesn't have the supporting cast that he does. Creed Humphrey/Joe Thuney, Trey Smith- Individually 2 out of the 3 could be in the argument for the best Center and Guard at their positions in the league and collectively are definitely the best interior line in football. Travis Kelce- Maybe not the best TE this season and was shut down very early in the Super Bowl but as the game rolled on there was his presence. No bigger than the 22 yard scamper down the sideline to tie the game at the end of regulation. 9 catches for 93 yards. Chris Jones- Maybe not huge on the stat line tonight but affected the pass and run game all night for the Chiefs. Makes the QB get off their mark. Cost the Bills at go ahead TD in the divisional game, harrassed Jackson and Purdy in both of the other games. Trent McDuffie- All over the field making tons of plays and have sticky coverage. He might be the best slot CB in the league and he is still very young. Played great tonight. L'Jarius Sneed- For the most part was good tonight besides giving up the TD to Jennings which was even still pretty good coverage. Gave up 1 TD all season long and could arguably considered the best outside CB in the NFL. Harrison Butker- Guy has been as good if not better than Justin Tucker these last couple of seasons and there he was again tonight burying at 57 yards FG and then hitting the 28 yarder to get the game into OT. Tucker probably still the best Kicker but to me its 1A and 1B. Andy Reid/Steve Spagnuolo- They continue to make adjustments at halftime and win games for their team. Spagnuolo was getting gashed early in the game in multiple ways but essentially shut down the 49ers offense in the 2nd half. The Chiefs also held the Bills to 7 second half points and completely shut down the Ravens in the AFC title game. This doesn't even include the plethora of really good other players that they have including Pacheco, Rice, Karlaftis, Nnadi, Bolton, Gay, Justin Reid, and Townsend. To me for the Bills, to get to the Chiefs level, they need to acquire more high end talent. It is simply amazing to me that Josh Allen has almost single handedly willed this Bills franchise to wins against the Chiefs in the playoffs. The Bills have talented players besides Allen but not to the level that the Chiefs. You can argue for Bills guys sure but at most positions the Chiefs have a guy who is better with the exception of LB and WR.

Any coach that isn't with a franchise QB isn't going to be as successful in the NFL. QB's make coaches not the other way around. Look at how many QB's gave guys jobs including Tom Brady who not only kept Belichick employed but also got numerous assistants HC jobs that they failed at because they didn't have Tom Brady. Adam Gase with Peyton Manning, Nathaniel Hackett with Aaron Rodgers. The list goes on and on.

He doesn’t separate from DBs, he will likely run slower and his contested drop rate was high for a guy who doesn’t separate he needs to win those

I actually think it’s a possibility if Williams reaches his potential. I don’t think they would use it all the time but all 3 LBs would be extremely athletic coverage LBs who can spy mobile QBs and cover TES and RBs. Johnson has had a lot of injuries and wonder how much his body can hold up in the long run

The whole DT rotation has to be stabilized. We literally have 1 guy under contract right now

Here’s the thing. If you want a Julio Jones you need to either get MH, Odunze, Nabers(who I think is slightly overhyped). Those guys are probably all gone by the top 10. That means we’re giving up 1 and 2 this year and 1 next year for probably Nabers. I don’t think there is a guarantee Nabers ends up being significantly better with Allen than say a Brian Thomas, Adonai Mitchell etc. This team is one of the oldest in the NFL and needs to infuse young talent on its roster. Those 10 picks are huge for the future of this team and I think it’s very possible for the first time in forever that 8 or 9 guys make this roster as rookies