stinky finger

Boldin bad for Zay and the other young wideouts? TT? Eric Wood? Trade Mccoy? Marcel? get out from underneath his contract. He doesn't seem like their cup of tea. Incognito? Glenn? KW? What would you do to tank? Forgot to mention Lorenzo

I would contend that Brandon Cooks is overkill. With Brady behind center he'll make Hogan, Mitchell and of course Edelman look like the 3 amigo's. Not to mention Gronk. Lol - Cooks. How many Wrs can say they've left the likes of Brees and IMPROVED who's pitching to them?!?

No doubt - amazing what good coaching can do. Sammy is a luxury not needed on that team. He's not necessary to win.

I'm sorry. I must've missed how the talks went between Bills brass and Sammy re: 5th year. You have the inside? Spill it. And no, no way Sammy goes to Pats. They won't pay want he'll want. Poor value and they don't need him.

Right - I was merely pointing out that those in favor of this move need to get off the premise that Sammy didn't want to stay. As you said, it is obvious - just not to everyone.

yessir - agreed Agree on this also. The exact opposite, actually. He was not wanted.

So it's pretty obvious. Sammy didn't fit in the long term plan.

Whether you like the trades or not, there's no denying the Bills are less talented today vs prior to trades. I believe there were several reasons as to why they chose to complete these deals. Fit, contract, maybe character, direction - whatever else - I don't know. I'll say this, right moves or not, BALLSY! They have a vision of what it takes to build what they think is a winner. I suspect that they intend to look back, as I hope we all do, and say - "Now, what was everyone so up in arms about?" Here's to hoping they're right.

I don't think that's their plan.

Sammy >>>>>>>>>>>Mathews Not debatable

You know, I truly believe Sammy is a terrific talent. Fact is, the QB/WR we're discussing hadn't had enough time to become an item.

On the surface, I can see why anyone would think this.

So, Sammy was irreplaceable?

As I said - fleeting.

Yes - I, too, believe he was moved because Beane and McD truly thought Sammy didn't check off the talent boxes. I don't have issue with anyone who isn't down with this trade, but to come to this conclusion is a tad premature IMO. No, I understood the point. I think you may have misunderstood mine. "Taylor to Watkins" was never an item. Again, I get it. Sammy is a wonderful talent. understood - TT needs to pull up his pants and get the ball to who's here. If he's good enough, he will.

Jimbo may have been a little over the top with his statement, no? Kelly to Reed was tried and true - historic. Taylor to Sammy? Fleeting, if not unnoticeable.

This is completely fair - on all accounts.

Last I looked, we still have capable WRs. An NFL QB will get the ball to them. Bullet 4 is just.....well.......silly.

I hear you. However, let's base the winner of this trade on what each team accomplishes rather than just those involved in the trade. Sammy can have a HOF career for all I care. It'll take time to get the results of this trade. I get those who say we lost a special talent. This team is being reshaped by a new regime. I choose to give them room to do so. We'll see.

This is absolutely, positively absurd. What a poor, poor comparison.

Sherlock Holmes, I presume?

I'd be on board with this. Makes sense. Finish what you've started.

Just not in their plan. What else could it be?

We really shouldn't be that surprised with the regime change and how they value what was in place. i get questioning the return - but is this really uncommon?

Curious as to your opinion - would you be all in or would you prefer to tank in earnest?