BuffaloBob

Really? With EJs long ball capability, the defense is going to be able to stack the box more? LOL! I suppose that EJ's performance is just a preseason aberration and he'll go back to slow eyes and scanning only half of the field, right? And with EJ's cap consequences, I rather doubt it makes financial sense to cut him. And really? $1.4 Million or whatever is too expensive for a backup? Dude, I realize you have a giant harddon for getting rid of EJ, but you're going to have to try a little harder than this. But maybe, if you bang that drum just a little harder and a little faster, you might get your wish after all.

I don't even mind if they feel it's worth keeping Cassel, I just hate this dismissive attitude about EJ. But I do admit that if anything happened with TT, requiring next man up, I don't want it to be Cassel. I would want EJ to get a shot first. I would be so PO'd to have to watch Orton II while EJ rides the pine.

You know, I don't want anything bad to happen to Tyrod and I hope he does well. BUT, if EJ does for some reason get a chance to play this season, I hope he crams a game ball right up the proverbial rectum of the local media with his play. I heard Carucci on Freddie Coleman last night. EJ couldn't put it together. Struggled in practice and he wouldn't be surprised if he ends up playing somewhere else this year. Me conceded he improved some, but not enough to matter. He made not ONE mention of the fact EJ nailed it in the preaseason. Not one mention that he made the most of his opportunities and literally out-produced the other two guys in the three games. I so want to see these eat crow. The only hater in the local media that had the grace to at least give the kid the credit he deserves is Joe B. Tyler Dunne, Coller, Carucci, et al. Are still beating the drum.

Sorry guys. Matt Coller says EJ is who he is going to be because he's 25 and analytics says that, except for a few outliers, all athletes are who they are going to be at 25, so forget about EJ. And because of two games out of the 14 he started were really bad, he just will nver be a guy you can rely on and the fact that he couldn't beat out Tyrod and Cassel, he's never going to be more than he is. Oh and his improvement this year is marginal, but not enough to make him better than Cassel. So all of us morons who don't understand analytics, too bad and so sad.

I also give him credit for how he played in the Carolina game for that matter. The guy's first series was effed by two lousy shotgun snaps by Urbik. He had two drops by TEs that could have extended other drives, and he was basically running for his life the whole time. Yet he throws an on the money touchdown pass while avoiding the rush, and was downright unflappable the entire time he was out there. The biggest improvement I saw in EJ was his coolness and his ability to overcome adversity in all three games, and especially in the first two. He didn't get down when stuck with the third and fourth stringers, he continued to work until he made something happen. That is a huge attribute to have as a starting QB. I'm fine with TT because I thought he played well, also displayed poise under fire and is a bit more multi-dimensional. BUT, I still think EJ is the prototypical starting QB and still has the bigger upside, even if not by a huge margin.

I will support Tyrod and EJ. Meh? Not so much. If TT gets hurt or replaced with Meh, I will likely pull the rest of my hair out.

Awwwwww! Glad we could provide you with a little fodder for your EJ negativity. I rather doubt the hubble telescope would be required, maybe just a close-up. But regardless, it doesn't mean it didn't get tipped either. But of course, when in doubt, err on the side of NOT EJ.

ROTFLMAO! Well played sir.

So true. Not only that, but you'd also never hear the end about he won't throw down field, that he won't throw a guy open, or that he can't read anything but the short end of the field. If EJ threw as many checkdowns and short safe throws as Cassel, you know that would be the narrative. But the fact that EJ has improved his pocket awareness, has improved his accuracy and improved his confidence and thus willingness to throw downfield, we have to make fun of one tipped ball. It's about all the haters have left at this point.

I watched that on slow motion about eight times, stepping through one frame at a time. I couldn't come to that conclusion conclusively, but the second angle sure made it look like that was the case. I think the lineman did just got his fingertips on it and it didn't change it enough to make it wobble, but it did look like it deadened it enough to slow it down and make it behind the receiver.

At least this is what you are hoping. And you are no doubt hoping that EJ falls flat on his face during the game as well, because God forbid he throws a couple of TD passes and then you'll have to worry that EJ starts and makes an asszs out of you. Your buddies Tyler Dunne and Joe B need some support, Maybe you can call them and lend your support.

People have their reputations and egos at stake. People who took the position that EJ should have never been drafted when the Bills took him (i.e. Joe B) and people who have written him off early because they think they know something and have defended that position relentlessly do NOT want to be wrong.

Incorrect. They said in one sentence, Ryan said. Then in the next sentence, they said, so his time might be limited. The Ryan said part ONLY modifies the part about the all QBs getting time with the ones. CLEARLY, the next sentence is the conclusion of the author, otherwise, BOTH ideas would have been in the same sentence with the "Ryan says."

I am a supporter of EJ for many reasons. But as a Bills fan, I want the guy who will give us the chance to win to start. But no matter how things go over the next two weeks, I want EJ to remain on the team, and to continue his development, because he is still in my opinion the best long-term solution we have. My biggest complaint is clearly the opinion of "experts" that EJ is a bust and can't possibly be a solid starting QB. While I can deal with those on this board who make it their Quixotic like obsession to beat down support for the guy, it is the media's group-think that I can't stand. When I watched the "Roundtable" Channel 7 held before the Cleveland game, I couldn't help but hope EJ would prove those buttholes wrong, as they one-by-one smeared and dismissed EJ with what was absolute hyperbole regarding his performance in camp and his chances for starting. I remember Tyler Dunne being especially dismissive, with an almost sneer when they asked him about EJ. And not surprisingly, the hyperbole continues from Dunne with this quote from his latest "article" today in the News: "8. EJ Manuel can’t be trusted. Don’t be fooled by his preseason numbers (13 of 22 for 188 yards, two touchdowns). Manuel’s practice tape is littered with one incomplete pass into the hospitality tent, one that drilled a cameraman on the sideline and several fumbled snaps. Every 45-yard strike in stride is followed by two or three or four head-scratching throws, which is why Taylor and Cassel have been the quarterbacks getting virtually all of the No. 1 reps. Buffalo took a chance on Manuel at No. 16 overall two years ago. Maybe it was the perfect storm for all the wrong reasons – Kaepernick had just torched Green Bay for 444 total yards and four touchdowns, Robert Griffin III was the rookie of the year, Cam Newton and Russell Wilson were ripping through defenses by air and ground. Manuel seemed like a read-option threat and the Bills were dead-set on taking a quarterback. They simply took one in a horrendous draft class for the position.​" What a biased bunch of trite blather. His practice tape is littered with TWO BAD THROWS? And I saw the one that went in the tent. It did not go in there on the fly! It was a bullet that bounced into the tent first of all. Second of all, it was not THAT off target. Finally, how does this idiot know whether that was EJ's fault or the receivers. It was thrown to a spot. It was to a third or fourth string receiver. And even if that was an off target throw, so WHAT? It just wasn't that off target. It was thrown hard and to a spot, and the receiver couldn't get there, or wasn't where he was supposed to be. And no other QB has hit a cameraman or someone else on the sidelines with a pass???? The most egregious exaggeration was the "Every 45-yard strike in stride is followed by two or three or four head-scratching throws..." This is plain BS. I went to few practices and NEVER saw a good pass followed by 3 or 4 head-scratching throws. In fact, I did not see even ONE head-scratching throw follow a 45 yard strike. This guy is way worse than Joe B with his hyperbole. In the end, I will be behind whomever the staff chooses, and I will be behind whomever is playing QB at any time during the season. But I hope EJ if not against Indy, eventually emerges as a successful starter, either for us or some other team, just to shut Delta Bravos like Tyler Dunne the EFF up with their biased crappola.

THEY didn't. It was put in quotes by the poster, NOT by PFW.

This quote is a little misleading. The part of the quote that is NOT from Rex is that EJ's time with the starters may be brief. That was PFT's suggestion, not Rex's.

It's really more of an indictment of the stupidity of that type of silly rhetorical question being used so ubiquitously as a greeting that it just is lame on talk radio. There are other ways to begin a conversation on a phone other than asking someone a question as a greeting that is so trite and useless. Are they going to go into detail about how they are feeling today with every caller. And the fact that people expect a talk show host to respond to that inane question every 45 seconds just demonstrates how lame it is in that context. Except in situations where a friends or loved ones are seeing each other for the first time in a while, so that the question is sincere and a real response is sought, it is just a lame greeting for someone you don't know.

To be honest, having to listen to virtually every caller ask, "How ya doin?" "How's it goin? every call makes me a little nuts. You mean, how am I doing since the last guy asked me 40 seconds ago? I realize its just an affectation but it just sounds so lame to me. Thanks for taking my call is almost as overused. My favorite is: "Hello? Can ya hear me ok?" BUT, I think the station must have told them to say something, because they used to completely ignore everyone who asked some form of How's it going? If I'm a talk show host I would tell anyone who asked me one of those lame rhetorical questions would be hung up on!

Ahhh, you went to college! Well, then I stand corrected . Your a genius no doubt, at least in your own mind.

Run Game for TT (RB carries): 11 rushes for 33 yards = 3.3 YPC Not phenomenal, but not non-existent. Run Game for EJ (RB carries): 9 rushes for 11 yards = 1.2 YPC. That is non-existent. But thanks for playing.

How would anyone when you don't even post with proper grammar. And who cares about Lynch and Peters, they were both a-holes while they were here and Marshawn still is one, so who cares? That's why they are gone. But oh, I guess some NFL team will be calling you soon and offering you at least an assistant GM position. But you may want someone to review your resume, as I doubt they'll want to hire some clown on a Bills board who is clueless regarding the use of adverbs.

Tyrod had a run game! the First team OI-line was blowing Cleveland off the ball and even those scrub rb's were gaining yards. Moreover, the first team O-line was giving Tyrod all ton of time sit back and decide what to do with the ball. EJ was the one who had ZERO running game, as well as ZERO protection. Thanking you for what exactly?

Ummm, noooo, because he was really good against third stringers while playing WITH even worse third stringers. And, that's don't take me seriousLY, and don't worry, I won't. And it doesn't appear many others on this board are either.

Amen!

That's right, negative practice stats are only relevant when they're EJ's, and therefore serve to support your narrative.