BuffaloBob

Yeah, because Tyrod was so much better the last two weeks. LMAO. I love these posts. Last week, Tyrod had 26 yards passing at halfime. He had 106 for the whole game. The only reason we won last week was we played a lesser opponent that the D was able to hold to 13 points. The week before that against the Giants, he had EXACTLY the same 26 yards passing at half-time and we were down 16-3 against arguably a lesser opponent still than the Bengals. In the end, he had virtually the exact same game statistically as EJ had yesterday. Tyrod against Giants: 28/42 274 yds, 6.5 avg, 1 TD, 1 Int, 16.6 QBR, 82.8 Rating with 4 sacks. Running he was 6-15 yards 0 TDs. EJ against Bengals: 28/42 263 yds, 6.3 avg, 1 TD, 1 int, 56.9 QBR, 81.7 Rating with 2 sacks. Running he was 6-22 and 1 TD. Two 1st down conversions on 3rd down and short. In the Giants game, the offense scored 1TD and we lost by 14. Yesterday, the offense scored 3 TDs and we lost by 13. Had the defense even remotely showed up yesterday, we might have been driving for a tying field goal at the end. But somehow, EJ's performance was HORRIBLE and you can't wait to get Tyrod back in there. How is that exactly? Did you think Tyrod had a good game the last two weeks? See above and then tell me how Tyrod's performance is any better the last two weeks than EJ's yesterday.

I think the key will be to get some early success offensively. I hope they come out aggressively on offense, rather than trying to be conservative.

That is why the Bills are in our DNA. And why it was so hard to not see us win a Superbowl in the early 90s. Football is so different now, and so is my emotional attachment to it. I'm glad the players are so well compensated now. They deserve every penny. But that has also changed the game in ways that has profoundly altered what was at that time my great love of the game. I will root for the Bills to my last breath, but long gone are the days I used to watch every game I could, read every book I could on football. Maybe that is just an inevitable part of growing up. But the NFL is not a passion for me like it was back then.

The Bills didn't do much winning by the time I was attending games with my Dad in '68 and beyond, so for me, it was the ambiance that I remember. I remember a t least one December game when it was snowglobing and the band was playing Christmas songs. The bills were no doubt losing, but it was Christmas time and Santa was coming! I remember in '68 and '69 how i would come home from a game happy if the Bills scored a touchdown. I remember a game against San Diego when John Hadl was QB. It was one of those awful weather games and the field was so muddy that most of the players' jerseys had their numbers obscured my mud. It was late in the fourth and we were losing soundly, when the crowd notice there was one player out there whose number 21 jersey was virtually free of any dirt or mud. The chant started remotely and began to grow in volume. GET HADL DIRTY! GET HADL DIRTY! It when on for about 5 to 10 plays, until finally Hadl went back to pass, and the Bills sacked him and got him all muddy. The crowd of Bills faithful, still there in the 4th, suffering through miserable weather and an even more miserable game, went nuts like we had just won another AFL Championship. We went home that afternoon with a good feeling, despite yet another L.

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If you watch Rex's I press conference and on-field interview from Friday, t:hey day Carucci printed that drivel, you would wonder how in bloody hell vic came up with that preposterous position. Unless Rex went all Auntie Em Auntie Em it's a twister after the cameras were turned off, that description of Rex's position on the QB situation is frankly bizzare! Vic asked Rex lots of questions, and Rex was his usual joking relaxed self. He seemed to make it clear that the team had full confidence in EJ should he play. Yet, somehow, Vic has become convinced that Rex is gripping so hard he's about to pop and blow away over Lake Erie like a balloon. So Rex hasn't announced EJ as the starter. So what? Why not keep the Bungles guessing? Why not keep Tyrod working towards getting back on the field? Vic is, like certain other members of the local media, still desperately clinging to the EJ sucks and will never be any good narrative, and that the Bills are through with him. I heard Vic interviewed on ESPN after the pre-season, and he was STILL predicting EJ would be gone by the start of the season. It's really pathetic.

Oh, and Al Bemiller's playing wait at center back then? 250 fully dressed!

RIP Paul. I loved that band. I was just a kid, but that live band was cool. They used to play during timeouts and before and after the game. So much better than the crap they blare over the loudspeakers today. They used play Christmas songs in December. Those were the days. Speaking of them working during the offseason, Ron McDole and Al Bemiller used to build spec houses and Al had a restaurant and bar on Clark Street. Boy, what a different Era that was back then.

You know, it just never ceases to amaze me that these guys continue to peddle their group-think on the QB situation. A quote from Carucci's article: "Logic would strongly suggest that the best move would be to give Taylor at least one game, if not two, to heal and go with Manuel. Neither Ryan nor offensive coordinator Greg Roman wants to do that. Ryan made it clear Friday he was squeezing with all of his might to even the slimmest hope that Taylor could recover in time to get a thumbs-up when the proverbial “game-time decision” is made Sunday." Ummmm, I watched Ryan's press conference twice, during which Carucci asked him lot's of questions about the QB siutation and I'm sorry, but not ONCE did I see even the slightest indication that Ryan was gripping with all his might over Tyrod playing or not playing. Maybe Ryan went to pieces after the camera's were shut off, and I didn't get to see it. Maybe Vic is half Betazoid and he can read Ryan's mind whereas we mere earthlings cannot. But really? Ryan was his usual casual silly loose guy with the press. In response to Vic's questions, he was unwavering in his praise of EJ and that he looked great, threw the ball really well, is comfortable in the system, and said he had all the confidence that EJ would do great things if he plays. The ONLY thing one could use as an indication of a lack of confidence would be that he hasn't just come out and said that EJ will start. But so what? First of all, he is clearly trying not to give the Bungles any indication regarding for whom they should prepare. Also, he owes Tyrod at least a chance to try to recover sufficiently to play. But really. He's squeezing with all his might to even the slimmest of hope. Holy freakin' crap! Then he comes up with this narrative: "It’s no secret the Bills’ coaches preferred Matt Cassel in the No. 2 spot, which he held before General Manager Doug Whaley, who wanted Manuel in that role, shipped Cassel to Dallas." Once again, this is NOT some publicly ackowledged position. This is HIS opinion. Yes they had Cassel at 2, and put him back there after he was re-signed. So what? That doesn't mean he was the CLEAR choice for any reason other than he is a veteran with lot's of games under his belt. He is putting out as fact that Whaley shipped out Cassel to promote EJ, implying that it was against the coaches' will. It is certainly possible, but definitely not confirmed as fact. And then off course you have Ole Sully chiming in as if HE knows something more than the rest of us: "@shoutfanatic asks: Why are BUF sportswriters so infatuated with a QB who completed 58 percent of his passes over 71 starts while barely throwing past the line of scrimmage? Sully: Sorry that the media’s stance on the Bills quarterback situation is too nuanced for you. No one is “infatuated” with Matt Cassel. We merely point out the fact that he was Rex Ryan’s clear choice as backup quarterback until Doug Whaley shipped him out of town to pave EJ Manuel’s way to the No. 2 job." Guess no source is really necessary for that assertion of fact, especially when you can be sarcastic and condescending about it before delivering your opinion as fact. And then at least this is delivered as opinion: "His teammates believe in him, too, which can’t be taken lightly. I don’t think they have much faith in Manuel." A position that is apparently belied by EJ's teammates' consistent and fairly strongly worded support throughout, including Sammy's recent offerings regarding this subject. All I can say is, if EJ starts, I hope he shoves this crap right up the local media's proverbial poop chute.

Nice post, but you lost about 90% of this board when you used the word syllogism. Anyway, those who have written off EJ will stick to that position even if he leads this team to a Superbowl. Haters gotta hate. Haters gotta be right no matter what.

Actually, the guy seems to have lousy hands. It seems that he has dropped more passes then he has caught. They threw to him more in preseason, and he dropped several passes. More recently, he was thrown to down by our own goal line, and he took a dump pass and literally bobbled it up into the air, and by the time he regained control, he was tackled for little or no gain. We were lucky a defender wasn't there to snatch the ball right out of the air and score an easy touchdown. He may be a good blocker, but he seems to have hands of stone.

Are those two guys on the left beating or EATING that dead horse?

Dude, I think you're trying a little too hard here. Duke made one more arm movement forward after hitting him, and by that time ODB was on his azzszz. Looked more to me like a follow through by which he was trying to keep himself from falling because ODB provided very little resistance to the hit. That one arm motion was hardly flailing at ODB, whereas ODB clearly gets up and swings directly at and hits Duke in the side of the helmet hard enough to cause Duke's helmet to twist violently when he makes contact. Morever, if it wasn't his first and only one of the afternoon, that is significant as well. I'm not trying o make a big deal out of it, but that punk needs to be held accountable for that crap, and claiming that it was hard to interpret or hard to classify as a deliberate punch is simply nonsense. He got legally jacked with a great and legal hit, and he was pissed so he jumped and hit Duke in the head with a full swing and then ran away like a total pu$sy.

It's called being so fully invested in your position to the point that you are too far gone to come back. This clown, among others here on this board, are so far down the "EJ will NEVER be a competent starting QB" road that they simply cannot return. Not enough fuel to get back. So on they plod. There are those in the media that are essentially in that very same same place. Tyler Dunne from the News continues to bang the drum as well. Did you know EJ actually threw a pass that bounced into a hospitality tent and also hit a camera man on the sideline with another?????? Heavens to Betsy, it's a twister, it's a twister Auntie Em!! Oh, and Lordy Lordy, he fumbled some shotgun snaps in practice!! Oh the humanity. I SAW some of the snaps he was getting from second and third string centers early on and they weren't pretty, but why let a little fact like that get in the way of a narrative that you have invested yourself deeply within. Matt Coller at GR is another one. The analytics boy wonder genius who believes numbers tell you everything you need to know about a guy, and they tell him that EJ cannot possibly improve enough to be good. So of course, the ONLY reason why EJ is still on the team, or worse yet, that he was actually kept in lieu of Cassel at second string is because Whaley is committed to keeping HIS guy. No other explanation for it, boy howdy. The only guy who was heavily invested in this narrative and yet had the huevos to give credit where credit was due was Joe B. And Sal C actually conceded that he was caught up in the group think that was going on out there at SJF as well, and was outright supportive of releasing Cassel. Human nature makes some people pathetically funny, because they just can't help themselves.

He's made some good plays, but nothing to write home about. He took a sack at the end of the half, just holding onto the ball too long and had to settle for a field goal.

Well, besides Tyrod, their only other choice was to like EJ, and that sure wasn't going to happen.

I wonder what being inactive will mean to WRs Hogan, Goodwin and Thompson and their prospects for making the 53. Especially Thompson.

I'm not sure what you are asking me. I was responding to a previous post that suggested that Cassel and EJ are both not good backups to TT, because it will require a change in the offense that would benefit the defense. In EJs case, he was claiming that its because you need to provide more protection for EJ then Tyrod requires, and therefore that somehow allows the defense to stack the box. I was simply pointing out the fact that because EJ seems to have finally found the formula for getting the ball down the field, that this makes no sense. He will stress the secondary and will PREVENT them from moving up, sitting on short routes and stacking the defense. Moreover, EJ showed much improved pocket awareness and mobility in the pocket, so I don't buy the idea that we'll have play two tight ends and a fullback to protect EJ.

It is probably about time to start the Parker "re-negotiate" strategy again, isn't it? I'm mean sure, he was injured all of last season but, you could make an argument he out-played his contract, can't you?

Ahhh, did they replace Kupper with Urbik after that series? I was trying to pick out the number after the second bad snap, but from where I was sitting, I couldn't Then it seemed the next series, Urbik was in there.

It would be hard to find a bong big enough!!

Pay the man his money! Oh wait, sorry.............. LOL!

EJ is, for better or for worse, not that brash, in your face kind of guy. On the one hand I get where you are coming from. On the other hand, I think EJs teammates respect him for not being like that. Also, I thought his biggest improvement was the way he went about his business in the first two games when he did not have the ones in front of him, and had to endure a lot of adversity. He remained cool, calm and collected, even when Urbik was blowing snaps, his TEs were dropping first down passes, and he was running for his life a good deal of the time. In the end, I believe that it is this kind of personality that will have the most success under the most dire of circumstances. I am an EJ supporter, but I also really do like Tyrod and I'm excited to see what he can do. I too share the concerns of how long he can avoid injury, but I am happy for him because he is also a great story and I think he made it a very difficult choice. I feel badly for EJ that he didn't have this coaching staff from the beginning, but he didn't and that's how it goes. I am also happy for EJ because I think his hard work and perseverance is starting to pay off.

This! The original case completely ignores the cap implications of cutting EJ early on the future cap. So while you may save a small amount still owed EJ, the dead cap money gets accelerated at completely the wrong time. BTW, the other argument I love is the, we need to bring another guy in just like Tyrod, you know, with similar talent and ability. Yes, they're all over the damn place. Just go pick one off the strong-armed, mobile QB tree! LOL!

That's because there wasn't one! Everything you say is true. The issue was not that what was reported was inaccurate, it was instead what we were supposed to conclude from what was said that was ridiculous. Yup. it's the second time EJ, when confronted with a loaded question like, do you think you might get cut or traded, that he honestly answers that it's always a possibility but that he is doing what is under his control and is not concerned with that which is not. Yup. He absolutely believes he's a gonner!! Stop the presses!! Dude, maybe if you close your eyes, and wish really hard, you make can make it come true!