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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Sorry for good and boring news. It's almost like something is different this year. I can't put my finger on it. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You mean like all the other mind changing posts here? -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Read my post slower and you may see your error. Probably not but I can hope. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Says the guy who didn’t look at the numbers before knee jerking anti vax arguments. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You never actually do any work. Just knee jerk anti vaccine. Small sample size for that group. 12-15 there are 389 cases in unvaccinated, 53 in boosted. Zero current severe cases. So you think we need yet another thread? I vote no. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Bakin is against vaccines. A bunch of others say they don’t work. I think only one person advocates for mandates. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
More numbers sorry for the good news that vaccines work so well. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Dingdong, in August when you said the vaccine doesn't work for most people beyond 6 months, you were wrong. Then you admitted you were wrong (which you were because the data did not support your statement). Now you are saying you weren't wrong because later data shows vaccines have waning effectiveness. Which time are you wrong again? I'm losing track. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
So were wrong when you admitted you were wrong? You've got some kind of logic going there bud. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You still don’t get it. “The vaccine doesn’t work after 6 months for most people” STILL isn’t true. In science, you base your conclusions on the evidence at hand, not some supernatural instinct. You were wrong when you said it. You remain wrong. If the evidence eventually shows that the vaccine doesn’t work for most people after 6 months, you’re the proverbial blind squirrel. And guess what…boosters renew the effectiveness. So just get boosted. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
You didn’t understand it in August and you’ve been an anti-vax apologist since. There is waning immunity from the vaccine, much higher for those at higher risk. That’s a proven fact—now. And yet it’s still the best tool we have to fight COVID. Get vaccinated. Get boosted. Big Blitz can now attack the idea of boosters some more. You can too. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
That’s a cute cherry picking. And guess what: even that still doesn’t mean the vaccine doesn’t work for most people, like you keep saying. Go ahead and read what I quoted again. Do it very slowly. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
And...you're wrong even though you now try to change your position. Science MAgazine and 780,000 people studied... https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm0620 From July to October 2021, VE-D for age 65 years was 73.0% for Janssen, 81.5% for Moderna, and 84.3% for Pfizer-BioNTech; VE-D for age ≥65 years was 52.2% for Janssen, 75.5% for Moderna, and 70.1% for Pfizer-BioNTech. Findings support continued efforts to increase vaccination, booster campaigns, and multiple, additional layers of protection against infection. So even for older people, the vaccine "works." If you were wrong because the data changed or evolved, you'd be a scientist. But you were just wrong without data to support you. That's the thing that really stupid people get caught up in. Now who's lying? The guy who doesn't get jokes. I checked with my new employer Dr. Fauci and he said this was ok for me to post. Tell me if you fall for this one too. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
That's because I already answered it dingong. "Vaccines remain effective. And boosters give added efficacy." You, however, think that vaccines don't work for most people after six months. And you're sticking to it! In other news, the NYT continues its FOX impersonation, driving the wedge ever deeper. Hate, Inc. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Buffalo Timmy sees this and says vaccines don't work for most people. Don't be as dense as Buffalo Timmy. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Losing effectiveness over time is not what you said dingdong. Vaccines remain effective. And boosters give added efficacy. And guess what: your statement, “Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases” is still wrong. But you can't admit it. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Your statement is wrong and you stuck to it. It remains wrong even for at risk people, though of course boosters have been shown to help them. Link? When you don't find it, say you're wrong. Again. -
Josh can make his own decision but I hope that given his work with kids with cancer, he’s vaccinated. Dr. Joe Rogan might have another opinion.
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Because it’s inescapable, I’ll chime in. I don’t care. He’s an adult. He made a decision that I definitely don’t advise but whatever. He now pays the consequences. En masse the more people who follow his lead, the worse the societal consequences. My annoyance about this is that he’s taking up headline space and I’m super annoyed that it helps the Chiefs. I want those ***** to stay down.
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It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Gotta watch out for teenage girls and the Instagram rumors vs critical thinking. “Of course we now know the vaccines are not lasting more than 6 months in most cases.” -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Not Graphene oxide, one of the stupid instagram rumors. You should join with Buffalo Timmy. He falls for crap like this too. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Graphene oxide? Jesus you people fall for everything. Every year there are novel viruses you say. Out of curiosity, how many of those cause 5 million deaths in 2 years? 2 years in existence does indeed make it novel. But you knew that. Maybe I shouldn’t give you credit. -
It's Time to Mandate Vaccines
Sundancer replied to The Frankish Reich's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Is there something about "novel" coronavirus that eludes people. The goalposts sometimes move because we are dealing with newish things. And DeSantis is more focused on fighting mandates than saving lives promoting vaccines. That's half leadership and misses a pretty vital half. Being the number one state in deaths when we had a vaccine is a dubious leader board to be atop.