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You're tilting the field. White was playing better. It's sad, but we did not have his services for much of the season. Poyer and Hyde were at the level of wily veterans. They were not pro bowl caliber players, particularly. Edwards, now, is probably their equal. He's certainly not a huge drop-off from the players who had slowed down. We resigned Epenesa and Jones, who were the two best players that we could have potentially lost on the DL. You can argue Floyd, but he is also older, and dropped off the second half of the season. None of this means we don't need an infusion of talent at S and along the DL. I think they expect Dorian Williams to play a bigger role next year. They may throw a later pick at LB. I like Liufau, the Notre Dame LB. I don't like the DE position in this draft. I especially don't like either of the Robinsons who are touted as first round picks. They're not. It's because of the lack of quality at the position that their value is inflated. It would be a mistake to choose them for that reason, or because it is a position of need. I'd rather take someone like Cedric Johnson on day 3, and some late round flyers. It just isn't a good draft to try and upgrade there. And the WR room does need more talent. Josh Allen has not been served well by the roster construction under Beane, who has not given sufficient weight to the position, though he's attempting to redress that. It's a great draft at WR, and it would be irresponsible not to get one early, and one later on. The X is not on this team yet, and you can't count on anything beyond 2024 with Diggs. If there is a potential WR2 with room to develop into a WR1 that is reachable at #28 or a modest trade up or back, that absolutely should be the priority. You can fill out the roster with the rest of the draft.

I'd definitely be on-board with that. Nice job. I sorta gamed the system on this one. I kept trading back, because I knew Legette is available late second. Tried to address every area except special teams. 49. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson 59. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 60. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 82. Braelon AllenRB Wisconsin 115. Brandon ColemanOG TCU 133. Tykee SmithS Georgia 144. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 160. Cedric JohnsonEDGE Ole Miss 163. Javon FosterOT Missouri 189. Marist LiufauLB Notre Dame 200. Cornelius JohnsonWR Michigan 248. Carter BradleyQB South Alabama

I think he's more likely to backup Jones as a 1T.

No, you're right, of course. I was just poking fun.

Dude, it's posts like this that make me feel sorry for Warriorspikes51. You're very rational, but there's just no magic in your soul.

Don't know what you paid to get up to #9, but I'll take it.

They did draft Kincaid last year. And they cut a lot of veteran locker room guys with a necessary ruthlessness. That might be too strong a word, but I am hoping it signals the possibility for change. They've also been meeting with a lot of top WR candidates for the draft. Maybe it's more of the same, and I'll be unhappy about it -- maybe not as angry as you, I dunno. Right now, I'm going to believe that Beane may be shifting course, partly because I don't relish despair and anger, and I don't feel utterly compelled to take as inevitability the choice many of us nonetheless fear is all too possible.

I can only say I hope Beane is not metaphysically tied to the Carolina model. He should see it isn't sufficient, and it sure didn't age well for Cam.

Is that a function of evaluation, or the attempt to build a team with depth, or both? I think they are too risk averse, but where to draw the line and avoid crazy gambling might not be easy, and they got stung with the Von Miller shot. I hope it doesn't stop them from being open to creative ways to get that higher caliber athlete, whether that be WR (my preference) or DL. And yes, I wouldn't rule out OL.

I don't know anything about him, but Cornelius Johnson, the Michigan WR is the fella I'd like to pick up late.

This is page 10 of a thread started on Wednesday. I didn't call you out personally. I just commented that no one appears to have remarked on it being a bad call when he was brought in. Folks offer opinions all the time. There's a lengthy thread about a WR5 special teams player who hates cats and dislikes soup.

I mostly agree. I think you are correct, actually, but I am inclined to gamble on Thomas over Odunze because of the speed. I know he is a one-trick pony right now, but it's a damn fine trick, and I believe there is lots of room to grow.

I've been hoping for a big X, but if Nabers is available there, push all your chips in. It wouldn't be a total shock if Nabers is the first WR off the board.

I generally agree with your WR assessments. Thomas will go in the mid to late teens, most likely. You'd have to move up to get him, and the cost would be high. Mitchell might be there, but I think you may have to move up some to secure him as well. I'm pretty sure Legette will be there as late as the early second, but I'm not absolutely certain. He's one of those I think may actually be higher on teams' draft boards than folks surmise.

The chart I looked at has #28 worth 660 points. #10 is 1300 and # 15 is 1050. My guess is your price might get you #10, but I suppose it depends on the negotiators and how desperate the team is to move up.

Sure didn't see all these folks pointing out how this fella couldn't play and it was a bad idea before we signed him. Maybe I just missed it.

That was an outrageously low pay for KC to move up, for Mahomes yet. No one's going to reciprocate for the Bills' try to move up, and this time the cost would be for a top 5 pick.

I'd be willing to be a little reckless to make it happen, but I'm afraid it might require much more than sustainable crazy to grab the pick. You're probably talking #28, #60, and next year's first and second, plus.

Coleman isn't anywhere near Thomas' speed.

Some folks start hitting the sauce early.

Outside of any metrics, Diggs was not a factor the second half of last year. Maybe he was injured, and surely, we didn't have an X to take pressure off of him, but he wasn't actually commanding double coverage. He isn't a top 5 WR now. Greg Cosell, who I like as an analyst, says he isn't a WR1 anymore. Maybe he bounces back, but I don't think it's realistic to expect the WR of three years ago.

The 2025 first gets you #41 and #88? I thought the rule of thumb is that you mark down a round on the draft chart for the following year, but obviously, a first rounder has value. That's interesting, in any event. I give you credit for creative thinking. Burton is rising, so #60 might be right. I'd rather take Legette if he happened to still be there, and I like Polk at #60, actually. I think it's more likely Beane trades up for a WR in the mid-first, and holds onto his 2025 first. I'd be surprised if he traded it.

You seem to be poaching some other teams draft picks to make that happen. Sweat is early day 2 probably. Smith won't get to round 4. Latu is a first round pick. Javon Solomon probably day 2. Gonna wait and use fifth round picks on WR again, Sean?

Even if you could find a GM willing to trade you a WR1, if it's an established player, you are talking about a large contract coming in. And then, of course, a shorter shelf life. Diggs was an unusual case, in any event, and the cost was a first round draft choice. Why not spend it on a rookie WR with potential? Maybe you think Minnesota wants to try and repeat the Diggs trade, and send us Justin Jefferson . . .