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Appreciate the amity. Must say, I am surprised empty seats have internet access and reasonable grammar. On the other hand, rationality is a bit suspect. Crushing the evil empire runs to the hyperbolic in expectations.

Yeah, I think Mayfield demonstrates leadership often and this is missed by his detractors apparently. I am hoping we trade up to get him, because I don't think he will fall to us. There's no doubt that we have numerous holes to fill. I don't think many folks actually believe franchise qb alone is needed. There has to be a prudential calculation as to what price is too much to move up, but I'll be disappointed if we aren't aggressive in filling the position.

I think his ceiling is higher than Tyrod's if he reaches it, but I doubt he is top five of qbs Bills would be looking at.

We generally agree, John. But as you know, acquiring a franchise qb is paramount for long-term success. Here's my concern. My top three qbs in the draft right now are Rosen, Darnold, and Mayfield. Unlikely we will be in a position to trade up for the first two and I wonder if McD will see past Mayfield's immaturity or if he will conclude it is character issues and pass. I think the latter is a misread, though the fellas who interpret Mayfield as Johnny Football 2.0 concur. In any event, they will have to trade up for qb. If they wait for the draft to come to them, you are looking at the fourth or fifth best available given how many teams are looking for qb this year.

I would spend a lot to trade up for Rosen, quite a bit for Darnold, actually quite a bit for Mayfield. Only Mayfield is going to be potentially within reach. I would not trade up for anyone else. A second rounder for Alex Smith, okay, if you also draft a young qb to groom with real upside. If you get Smith, I can see taking a shot with Jackson. Rudolph is my least favorite of the top fellas, so I rather expect he is who we choose. I agree with those who think Cousins will not play up to his price tag. I pushed for Mahomes and Watson last year and lots of fellas were scoffing and talking about the 2018 qb class. Now that it's here, the qb needy teams are multiplying and we're going to have to spend the draft capital we picked up to get someone no better than equal to what we could have had at #10 last year. (Not dismissing how good a player Tre White is, but really, think how happy SF is right now. You get the franchise qb, the whole team thrives. Unless you're the Colts and can't put an oline together.)

He should bank his money and be happy to walk again.

Yes, but choosing and availability are equally important. Not sure we can get the fella we want. Seems to me we better hope there are at least three potential franchise qbs in the draft.

Who is your current third and fourth best qb? What would you be prepared to trade to secure them? I like Mayfield third best, but he's not tall and has maturity issues. Allen has questions about accuracy and level of competition. Rudolph doesn't impress me that much, but I'm no expert. I kinda think he might be there without a trade up.

If your criteria is a sure thing, only God can trade up. Risk is inherent in drafting any player. I would absolutely trade up for Rosen or Darnold, but I can't see either the hapless Browns or the Giants trading out. After that, there are more question marks, so I think you have to make a prudential decision regarding how much one is willing to pay to secure the next best qb. If it's too much, I suppose you wait it out and take bpa, qb when it makes sense, but we sure need a franchise qb.

You mean the folks who actually watch all the games? And most people here do not say Tyrod sucks. They think he is mediocre on a good day and want better, as they should.

Yep. Now it's boring. Thread needs to be closed.

Really? I'm an UGA fan so I don't pretend to be unbiased. Still, I'll take Chubb, Michel, and Swift over Bama backs. The Georgia oline is solid for the most part. We'll see.

Romo: "Throw it, throw it, throw it."

I would like Mayfield and Roquan Smith. There is no way Smith is available where we pick and I doubt Mayfield slides that far, but I suppose it is possible, especially if he's significantly below 6'.

Qb needs an upgrade for the long-term success of the team. This ought to be evident, but apparently it is not to some.

I love Roquan. We should be thinking about Sony Michel in the second round. He is perfect to groom behind Shady.

I'm a UGA fan, so I'm really conflicted about the game. It's impossible, but if we could somehow end up drafting Mayfield and Roquan Smith, this team would start to be a monster. I am not really down on Zay, just unsure. I am actually optimistic your assessment may be correct. I would grab Allen if he falls to us. I wouldn't trade up. Just really like Mayfield. I think the folks who see Johnny Football 2.0 are just way off, but I'm no expert. Not crazy about any of the Minnesota qbs. If we took Allen in the first, I'd want to get a fella like Alex Smith; not sure he'd like it after playing bridge qb for Mahomes.

They did draft well (Zay Jones will determine how well, imo.) We were very fortunate this year and the AFC is filled with weak teams. I am pleased we are in the playoffs, but if Beane and McD want to make a habit of it, franchise qb has to be the priority. We need considerable help elsewhere, but nothing trumps qb. You can argue Cousins is an above average alternative to the draft. I would at least inquire about Andrew Luck. I am not terribly keen on Cousins or Alex Smith, but it's a feasible stategy if you don't have to trade a lot of draft capital to get them. Rosen and Darnold will cost too much to move up. Mayfield might cost too much, but he's the guy I like at the position outside of the top two. Sony Michel and Nick Chubb will be available in the second, maybe third round at rb, in addition to Love and Penny.

A lot of thought put into the OP. Thanks. Personally, if it played out so that it was possible, I'd rather draft Mayfield and Roquan Smith in the first. Not sure what OTs are likely to be available in free agency, but if you don't sign Cousins, there ought to be enough to shore up OL and DL with a combination of draft and FA.

They do, but the talking heads on ESPN and NFL Network have yet to get the memo.

Apparently that tweet from Palazzolo was a joke and folks took it seriously. Yolo made a good point the other day, I thought. Compare how Darnold held up against Ohio St. and Mayfield. Of course, evaluation is not that simple. Still think Mayfield is the real deal. I'm an UGA fan, though, so I will be conflicted tomorrow. Dream draft scenario for me is Mayfield and Roquan Smith in the first.

He's a special player. Could be drafted top three.

Coach McDermott, shouldn't you be preparing for the Miami game?

Now Darnold and Rosen will start getting scratchy throats because Cleveland . . .

Well, I am a big Mayfield fan. Skeptics think his game won't translate to the NFL. I think the Johnny Football comparisons are lazy and almost totally wrong. When all is said and done, I suspect you have to trade up to get Mayfield. We can wait if we want Rudolph (I am not keen on the fella, so that is who we probably end up with.)